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Favorites, to Battle! - 9


It is time to hold another tournament in the "Favorites, to Battle!" series, which is so beloved on our site.

I. General questions.
1. Throughout the entire tournament, each participant plays as their chosen favorite race.
2. Game version SoD 3.2 (4.0) + HD mod + HW_rules_mod patch. The latest stable version is current: ???
3. Bidding is used for the right to choose the Color.
4. The template choice is made by crossing out from a list of 11 templates: 2SM4d(3), Balance (L-U, 130%), skirmish (200%), Anarchy (200%) Jebus cross, Mini-Nostalgia, Diamond, 8mm6a, 6LM10a, 8xm12a and Spider. The right to cross out a template first is determined by a coin toss. The player who "wins the coin" chooses who will cross out first.
By mutual agreement, playing on any other template is permitted. This matter must be discussed in advance with the tournament judges.
5. If two identical races meet in a match, the template is chosen from the list: 2SM4d(3), Balance (L-U, 130%), skirmish (200%), Anarchy (200%) Jebus cross, Mini-Nostalgia, Diamond, 8mm6a, 6LM10a, 8xm12a, Spider, mir_diamond and mir_h3dm1.
In this case, bidding is used for the right to choose the starting hero. Players take turns (first the one who won the bid for color, then their opponent) crossing out one undesirable hero from the full list of heroes; thereafter, players inform each other of the amount of gold they are willing to transfer to the opponent for the right of first choice among the remaining heroes. The one who bids the higher amount chooses the hero first and transfers the gold to the opponent.
On mir_diamond and mir_h3dm1 templates, each player has one subjective restart at 111.
6. Rules are standard.
The default timer is chess, with parameters as specified in the rules.
Mage Guild rebuild is ENABLED on all templates. There are NO restrictions on using the library.
Any changes to the game rules are permitted by mutual consent of the players, except for changing the Favorite Castle and the Fair Play rule.
Additional rules per template:
Mini-Nostalgia. The tournament participant who received the blue color as a result of bidding begins the selection of computer secondary castles.
Diamond. The participant who received the red color as a result of bidding removes the extra (ninth) castle. If favorite castles are identical, then first red removes one castle, then blue removes the second.
Anarchy Difficulty 200%. Color for the first generation is chosen by coin toss; upon a subjective restart - change of color. Played without the HW_rulez checkbox. When playing with identical castles, heroes are chosen by agreement; if no agreement can be reached - randomly.
Skirmish Difficulty 200%. Starting heroes and bonus - random, color for the first generation is chosen by coin toss; upon a subjective restart - change of color. Played without Mage Guild rebuild.

II. Organizational questions.
1. The tournament is official and regular.
2. Tournament goals:
- to play as the favorite castle and attempt to prove its strength,
- to gain valuable experience, improve one's level of play.
3. The tournament is conducted according to the Rules for organization, conduct, and participation in tournaments.
4. Players listed in the Blacklist and Penalty Bench are not eligible to participate in the tournament.
5. Tournament leaders and judges:
Tournament leader: Dirty_Player (ICQ: 408722873).
Tournament judges: Злой_романтик (ICQ: 296524052), skd (ICQ: 593626431), Diabler (ICQ: 360429834) , Dark (ICQ: 303751774)
If a disputed issue cannot be resolved independently, the judges will seek help from the AK.
The leader has the right to make any changes to the regulations and rules during the tournament if necessary.
6. Maximum number of tournament participants - 128; if there are more than 128 applicants, qualification games will be held. The organizers reserve the right to refuse registration to any player without a public explanation of reasons.
7. For each played match, participants must submit a report and confirmation in this thread, created automatically.
Saves of all matches must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented upon the first request of the tournament leader or any member of the AK.
8. Information on the progress of the tournament is updated as necessary and is located at the beginning of this thread.
9. All tournament games go into the seasonal rating. The list of tournament reports is also located at the beginning of this thread.
10. The tournament winner earns the right to participate in the "Final Battle 11" tournament
11. The tournament winner and players who took 2nd and 3rd place will be awarded Medals under their avatar:

Award authors: RAPER and ColdRain.

III. Deadlines.
All tournament participants must strictly adhere to the announced deadlines:
1. Immediately after the start of a stage or round, contact your opponent(s) for preliminary agreement on games. To agree means to reach an accord after negotiations and discussion. A proposal without a response will not be considered an agreement.
2. Temporary problems (with internet, travel, personal) must be reported to the tournament leaders.
3. Preferred time for tournament games is daytime (12-24 MSK) on weekends and evening (19-24 MSK) on weekdays. If a participant is unable to play at this time, the leader interprets the absence of a game result in favor of their opponent.

Registration - October 31 - November 24, 2016.
Approval of the participants list - November 24-25, 2016.
Draw - November 25, 2016. The draw will be conducted taking into account the declared castle and the participant's level of play based on results from other tournaments.
Tournament Start - November 26, 2016.

IV. Regulations.
1. Group stage. 32 groups of 4 people. Mini-double system. 2 people advance from the group. Estimated timeframe: 5-6 weeks.
2. Group stage. 16 groups of 4 people. Mini-double system. 2 people advance from the group. Estimated timeframe: 5-7 weeks.
3. Play-offs. Single-elimination for 32 people. Two rounds of BO1, starting from the quarterfinals and beyond BO3. Estimated timeframe: 15-16 weeks.
Total tournament duration from start to finish is about 28 weeks. Thus, the tournament should be finished by the beginning of summer.

Winners of previous "Favorites, to Battle!" tournaments:

"Favorites, to Battle! - 1" (2008) - Dudge (Necropolis) - Tournament History
"Favorites, to Battle! - 2" (2009) - Pit for LM (Conflux) - Tournament History
"Favorites, to Battle! - 3" (2010) - Сатир (Fortress) - Tournament History
"Favorites, to Battle! - 4" (2011) - Maretti (Castle) - Tournament History
"Favorites, to Battle! - 5" (2012-13) - GoD (Rampart) - Tournament History
"Favorites, to Battle! - 6" (2013-14) - Pit for LM (Conflux) - Tournament History
"Favorites, to Battle! - 7" (2014-15) - Pit for LM (Necropolis) - Tournament History
"Favorites, to Battle! - 8" (2015-16) - HellLighT (Necropolis) - Tournament History

In the application, you must specify the castle you will be playing.
In reply to Grando
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So, who is the winner? Or will there be a final match between FTS and Grizzwald?
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I'll reiterate what I meant because our spontaneous discussion with FTS might confuse an inattentive reader. There will probably be a lot of text.

What should the judge's logic be in this situation, according to me? If one of the players takes the initiative to play, and the other hesitates, then an Overtime Decision (ODD) should be assigned. If both hesitate, then the tournament is closed without a final.

Kostya chose the second option. But here
/topic/at/1039683/
I quoted Vanya, and from his words it followed that he wasn't hesitant.

And right there, I ASK KOSTYA (that is, DirtyPlayer) – why didn’t he assign an ODD? And why didn’t he disqualify Dark if he continued to hesitate?

Apparently, Vanya (FTS), against the background of his current emotional state, took my words personally and thought that my words contained some kind of claims directed at him, although I never said anything like that anywhere (and even more importantly, I didn't mean it at all). :)
At least now, rereading what he wrote, based on this premise, his words make sense.
Hence - IT STARTED. In every post, Vanya proves that his ego is bigger than mine, and I didn't even notice it, and I continue to discuss the essence of the matter; besides it, as a rule, nothing else interests me. Well, I definitely don't plan to be responsible for the fact that Vanya decided to discuss with me something that I didn't say to him, and also misunderstood me.

As for this final, ideally, I think an ODD should have been assigned here (unless Vanya was having similar issues in a private message with Kostya). Note: it's the final match featuring Dark. That is, the option where players agree and play normally cannot be taken seriously. If this happens, it’s not a viable scenario; it’s a miracle. Let's continue.

The result of this ODD should have been a normal final or a predictable technical victory for Dark.
In case of a technical victory, we need to consider the option of a second normal final with Grizzwald, with a debuff applied to Grizzwald, or even a preliminary match between Grizzwald and Antiplayer, and then a match with the winner, again with a debuff.

That's approximately what I meant.
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Al Feyn
Let me reiterate what I meant because our spontaneous discussion with FTC might mislead an inattentive reader. There will probably be a lot of text.

What should the judge's logic be in this situation? If one of the players takes the initiative to play and the other hesitates, then an Overtime Decision (ODD) should be scheduled. If both hesitate, then we close the tournament without a final.

Kostya chose the second option. But here:
/topic/at/1039683/
I quoted Vanya, and from his words it followed that he was not hesitant.

And right there, I ASK KOSTYA – why didn’t he schedule an ODD? And why didn’t he disqualify Darku if he continued to hesitate?

Apparently, Kostya, against the background of his current emotional state, took my words personally and thought that my words contained some kind of claims directed at him, although I never said anything like that anywhere (and even more importantly, I didn’t even mean it). :)
From this - IT STARTED. Vanya proves with each post that his ego is bigger than mine, and I didn’t even notice it, and I continue to discuss the essence of the matter; apart from it, as a rule, nothing else interests me.
Well, I definitely don't plan to take responsibility for the fact that Vanya decided to discuss with me what I said not to him, and also misunderstood me.

As for this final, ideally, I think an ODD should have been scheduled here (unless Vanya had similar issues in private messages with Kostya). The result of this ODD should be a normal final or a deserved technical victory for Darku.
In case of a technical victory, we need to consider the option of a second normal final with Grizwald, with Grizwald receiving a debuff, or even preliminarily Grizwald vs. Antilayer, and then the winner receives a debuff.

That's roughly what I meant.
Al Feyn, sorry, I didn't understand everything correctly. I only now realized what happened, and there is no winner (I thought it was just a technical victory for Darku). And frankly speaking, I feel unpleasant about it. Because all this time I was ready to play and still want to do so. In these past couple of months, I’ve played about 50 games, including 4 finals :eek: and, of course, I haven’t hesitated against anyone. When I am in a more reasonable state, I can provide all correspondence, etc., etc.
I still hope for a peaceful resolution without such an abrupt ending, from which absolutely no one benefits! :smile32:
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Don't deprive people of such a spectacle! Surely, nothing can be done?

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Al Feyn
And here I ASK KOSTYA (that is, DirtyPlayer) - why didn't he assign an ODD? And why didn't he disqualify Dark if he continued to stall?
I'll answer. Regarding the ODD proposal, the response was "Yes, we'll play, we'll play." Then I just gave up and set a condition. I was ready to put Dark in (because I see that Vanya plays almost every day, and he also played in 2 finals of other tournaments: OnlyXL and 3 in 1), but Dark disappeared completely, and didn't even bother to finish another tournament he was participating in. But Vanya said that he didn't need such a victory. OK. If he doesn't need it, then the tournament will be without a winner. But I won't extend the deadline in principle - I consider this disrespectful to me as an organizer and to such a prestigious tournament.
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=Lizard=
I suggest replacing Dark with Cobra!

Why Cobra? Let Grizzwald play in Dark's place!
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silenthill
Why Cobru? Let Grizzwald play in Dark's place!
Calm down. No one will play instead of someone else. They lost and didn't deserve to be in the finals. I suggest we stop this pointless debate. There's a situation, and let it serve as a precedent that not everything is allowed for finalists.
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Thank you for playing!
Konstantin, thank you for your patience! Ivan - Simple the Best!
Battle Report Accepted
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Кайри / Kyrre Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Кайри / Kyrre Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Аин / Aine Start Hero Аин / Aine
Нимусса / Nymus Main Hero Нимусса / Nymus
Map Template
6lm10a
Game Length
135 days
Game Date
5/17/2017
Reported
10/8/2017 7:48 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Joker2k 1958 1972 +14 ↑
FireToSky 1932 1918 -14 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 12/18/2017 9:57 AM

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It's been a while, and I must admit, we haven't been able to play with Ivan recently. If Kostya is willing, we can arrange a game soon; we've made plans several times, but they always fall through (mostly because it's difficult to coordinate due to scheduled streams)... it happens.
If you want, give me one tech point; Ivan deserves the win, but definitely not a technical defeat!

лето 2012.
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Let's start playing. Who can set up a stream from a TV?
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Dark
If you want, give one of those to me. Vanya deserved the victory, but definitely not a technical defeat!!!
It's good that you still have some conscience. And thank you for that.
FireToSky
Let's start playing.
I've said my piece. You can do whatever you want. The topic is closed.

P.S. I will fulfill my obligations for the current "3 in 1" and "Outlaw" tournaments and wash my hands of it. I'm tired of ungrateful people.
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My conscience finally got the better of me, and I decided to acknowledge the victory in the tournament and close it properly. It's funny that after such a push, the final match was played in just 3 days!!! Couldn't we have avoided bringing things to this point? I won't repeat myself about the ruined tournament and my mood... Vanya, write the reports and let's close this mess.

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