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Flooding in the Heroes section is a prime example, as seen in AZtek's posts. Half of them are just "I think so" or "Have you even played the game?". That's what flooding in the Heroes sections is like, and it needs to be stopped. But I don't have the authority to do so :(.

I'll correct that – AzteC3... and there's also a debatable candidate, MagicMan.

What difference does it make what his exact name is! As for the mods, here's what I suggest: instead of cranking out moderators like sausages, introduce a new position "flood eradicator" — Anti-flooder. And let them clean the forum or a specific subsection of flood and spam like "me too" and things like that... And put all new and perhaps old (those whose efficiency is low) mods and other people with such positions on a probationary period: so there are fewer drones... :smile14: By the way, I've got an idea... maybe we could create a council for Tournaments: they would only resolve issues regarding tournaments... Huh? Because, as experience shows, sometimes specialization (not narrow) of positions leads to more or less order... And one more thing: we have a sore point on our forum with newcomers who "clutter" sections with clone threads... maybe it's better not to delete threads, but to attach them to old ones before deleting them (with a link in the thread and posts moved to the main thread)? This could resolve some problems and disagreements within the forum...

Well, MagicMan mostly responds to AzteC3's provocations. It's actually quite interesting how these two found each other. :)

I agree with some of the above, particularly Alexander G.K. (+1), regarding duplicate threads. And the moderator team could also use some review.

What are you talking about? When it comes to newcomers, it's hard to get a word in edgewise!

Before posting in this thread, please read its title and the overall topic of discussion!!! And if you have nothing else to say, it's better not to post. You can chat in other threads... But here, we have serious discussions on serious topics...
Sorry for the off-topic comment!!
We need to protect our forum from this kind of spam! I have the impression that newcomers only try to quickly increase their rating... And they do it in a rather strange way. They post in all threads, but it would be good if they posted something relevant, something worth reading, instead of just writing whatever comes to mind... it's all just spam!! I won't repeat myself... everyone knows what I'm talking about and who I'm talking about... although there are still candidates for the title of the best spammer!! Moderators need to monitor their work better, although I understand that it's summer now and many are on vacation!! But still, only a few are working!! And everyone knows who they are (I won't name names) - the staff needs to be reviewed and those who don't work or haven't been on the forum for a long time should be removed... And give authority to other people. But there should be 2-3 moderators who are actually working for each section on Heroes... Because it's also difficult for one person to handle it... And it's good that there is a thread like Spam Links - this is real help for moderators and coordinators, but IMHO it should be pinned as an important thread in all sections or somewhere in a prominent place, so that any forum user can easily find it and post a link to a post containing spam or irrelevant content. I'm sure that most people don't even know about the existence of such a thread... I only found out about it recently...
And if we're talking about the topic, the Spam section is also needed, as it contains many good and worthwhile discussions, and it is from them that you can learn that our forum has gathered smart, wise, interesting, educated, and respectable people, and even people who are worthy of admiration:smile20:
And you can learn a lot from the topics themselves... For example, History Lessons is a very good topic! But it needs to be ensured that there is no SPAM in this section (as strange as it may sound)!! Again, the question becomes about moderators!
Or rather, about their absence... But this issue should be decided by our Admin! And I believe that he is working on it! And in the near future, everything will fall into place...
In general, I think our forum is the best and most friendly!! And let's do everything to make it stay that way!! Believe me, we can do it!! And everything is in our hands!! In the hands of the Respected Creator, his team, and us, the ordinary forum users!! And we don't need to rely on anyone - we need to be better ourselves and do everything to make others feel good on our portal!! Set a good example for others!! And people will be drawn to us, and they will stay - because we have the most friendly atmosphere (and this is not just my opinion)!!
Sorry, I just had to say it...:smile43:

Here's a suggestion. Maybe we should create our own lists of moderators/coordinators. Select forum members who will actually fulfill their duties. And then submit the list to the Creator for approval?

Here's a suggestion. Maybe we should create our own lists of moderators/coordinators. Choose forum members who will actually fulfill their duties. And then submit the list to the Creator for approval?

I fully support this proposal. We will look for people who genuinely want to do this! And that's the most important thing.

And when can we start?

To save the heroic theme, three things are needed: 1. Make forum members interested in tournaments; otherwise, look at the ratio between those participating in tournaments (even if only a few times a year) and their involvement in the rest of the forum, and all questions will be answered. 2. Organize master classes. 3. Suppress uninformative and repetitive posts; only then will some people have to ban themselves.

This is the kind of spam that our forum needs to be saved from! I have the impression that newcomers only try to quickly increase their rating... And they do it in a rather strange way. They write in all topics, but it would be good if they wrote something relevant, something worth reading, instead of just writing whatever comes to their mind... it's just spam! I won't repeat myself; everyone knows what I'm talking about and who I'm talking about... although there are still candidates for the title of the best spammer! Moderators need to monitor their work better, although I understand that it's summer now and many are on vacation! But still, only a few are working! And everyone knows who they are (I won't name names) - the staff needs to be reviewed, and those who don't work or haven't appeared on the forum for a long time should be removed... And give authority to other people. But there should be 2-3 moderators who actually work for each Heroes section, because it's also difficult for one person to handle it.

2Lu4ik +1 And why is that? An ordinary user has no way to "hold accountable" a representative of the administration for their actions; they do as they please. And this, if you think about it, is a violation of point 1 of the portal rules.

We will look for people who really want to do it! And that's the most important thing.

Exactly. But you need to look for those who WILL do it. Because among those who "want" to, there are too many who just like to be in charge and satisfy their ego.

Today, I was arguing with Luchik about spam and off-topic posts, and I guess we both stuck to our opinions. Never mind. Although spam and the like are one of the main problems of the forum, there are always two sides to the issue. Of course, all short, stupid, or simply irrelevant posts should be deleted, but should they always be? For example, there's an internal discussion related to the topic going on between two or more people. The mini-argument ends, and at the very end, one side is pointed out and proven to be correct, and a quote is provided to draw attention. The other side, understanding the point, might write a short post, simply expressing agreement. It might seem like a violation, a low-information post, but in context, it's not quite so. Because if you don't write anything at all, it's disrespectful; you've been addressed. But writing a lengthy response isn't very good either; it would just be a repetition. What am I getting at? That if you rigidly delete everything for the slightest infraction, that's not good either. It ultimately lowers the prestige of the chat. And if you delete everything left and right, then... why bother communicating at all? Let's write posts like newspaper articles, once a week. Communication consists of thoughts, and thoughts jump quickly, and you don't always catch them. So, there should be a middle ground in everything, a golden one, as they say. Regarding the current situation, I'd like to add that it's not the worst-case scenario. I primarily write in the fan forum for the fourth installment, but it's quiet there now, almost completely. If you think about it, that's an example of excessively strict policy. P.S. Luchik, I've already written this to you, but I'll repeat it: if you don't write posts yourself, don't criticize. Although, I guess this isn't just directed at Luchik. Here, I've contributed to the common pool of opinions; it's something different for a change. Almost forgot, what principle will be used to select the moderators? If it's not a secret

If you have to choose a moderator, it should be someone who is truly a worthy person. They should write грамотно and be reasonable, not approach every post with the same шаблон. I don't know what principle was used to choose (appoint) moderators up to now, but I would replace many of them with others. For them, it was just a form of entertainment, like "I'm a moderator, and I have some power."

I agree with ZYbr. Low-information posts aren't always bad, and if a Новичок is building up their rating, there's nothing wrong with that either. For example, the topic is: Which unit do you like in the human Castle. A person writes: "I like the crossbowman because he shoots twice." This is an uninformative post, but should it really be deleted if it completely justifies the topic title? Not everyone is going to describe it as: "I like the crossbowman because this unit has always helped me, he fires twice and his ability has saved key battles for me many times when it was vitally important or simply necessary, therefore I choose only him and will not vote for anyone else."
My point is that many topics simply don't require an extended answer. "Which unit in the Castle...", "Which hero...", "Which spells...". When a Новичок registers on the forum and starts posting in such threads to get acquainted with the forum and increase their post count, there is nothing wrong with that. Of course, obvious violations should be punished.

I agree with ZYbr. Uninformative posts aren't always a bad thing, and there's nothing wrong with a newbie gaining reputation. For example, a topic: "Which unit do you like in the Human castle?" A person writes: "I like the crossbowman because he shoots twice." This is an uninformative post, but should it be deleted if it fully justifies the topic's title? Not everyone will describe: "I like the crossbowman because this unit has always helped me, it shoots twice and many times with its ability saved key battles for me when it was vital or simply necessary, therefore I choose only it and will not vote for anyone else."
My point is, many topics don't require an extensive answer. "Which unit in the castle...", "Which hero...", "Which spells...". When a newbie registers on the forum and starts posting in such topics, getting acquainted with the forum and gaining posts, there's nothing wrong with that. Of course, blatant violations should be punished.

Thanks for expanding and adding to my thought)) otherwise, the discussion was moving only in one direction, which is quite strange:)
P.S. In addition, usually the first phrase of a person in a topic is exactly as you said, and it's not necessarily that he's new; it also depends on his mood. I personally am for the integrity of the picture; before acting, you need to think about the consequences and the meaning of the action, so that you don't waste a "turn" on fixing it later:)

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Here's another thought, maybe it's already been said, I haven't seen it, to make moderators temporary, for a certain period, then elect new ones, re-elect those who work well for a new term, and so on

2Lu4ik +1 But why is that? The average user has no way to "hold" a representative of the administration accountable for their actions; they do what they do, and that's it. But if you think about it, this is a violation of point 1 of the portal's rules.

I believe the reason lies elsewhere. The lack of a "morale" system is taking its toll. Newcomers simply can't grasp what is good and what is bad. In the past, you could clearly understand which messages earned a person respect and authority on the forum, and what consequences followed certain phrases like "everything sucks, death is the best."

I'm not a fan of tightening the screws. And I agree with ZYbr in that this affects forum traffic. And I'm very sad to have to delete some posts that, according to the rules, should be removed, but in reality, they contain much more information than, say, a two-word message from a newcomer. But newcomers now really seem to have gone wild and feel like they're in a chat room. And I mentioned the reasons for this above.