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Darth Saruman

4/14/2007 10:07 PM UTC

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Yeah, from a distance, probably through a Palantír, or used a spell...or the war song of the Uruk-hai)))

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Saruman

4/15/2007 12:32 PM UTC

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Yeah, from a distance, probably through a Palantír, or he used a spell... or the war song of the Uruk-hai)))

Through a Palantír, as mentioned in Goblin's movie:
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Orees

4/15/2007 12:48 PM UTC

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As for "The Master and Margarita" - it's a total fail, I haven't seen anything worse in a long time. An old Voland who can barely breathe, a crude doll instead of the cat... disgusting!:mad::mad:

I cannot agree. I read the book as a child in 2 nights. The movie is certainly not the book, but why go that far. Yes, frankly speaking, the budget was a bit low, but the acting is simply top-class. This isn't LotR, which the whole world admires first of all because of its pomposity, the amount of money poured into it, and a properly constructed advertising strategy. To be honest, I read The Hobbit back in primary school and didn't have much desire to watch LotR; when it came out, I was just curious where they could pour so much money. I'm not saying LotR is trash, far from it... I just think that LotR rules its own theme and M&M rules its own. After all, no one will argue that M&M isn't fantasy :). Anyway, I saw all the parts of LotR first in Goblin's version and only then in the original

Saruman

4/17/2007 9:35 AM UTC

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Here's another funny translation-related anecdote:
Legolas upon Balrog's appearance:
Oh, yeah! Balrog, Balrog is coming!

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Darth Saruman

4/17/2007 7:15 PM UTC

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Not every translation I mentioned is the best!
It's just amusing how the innkeeper in "The Fellowship of the Ring" called Aragorn "Kolobrod":D
When I read it for the first time (in 5th grade, my grandmother gave me the book...:rolleyes:), I immediately associated "kolobrod" with the thief from Heroes 3 after starting to read.

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Saruman

7/9/2007 8:52 AM UTC

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Here is the text of The New Shadow – a book that Tolkien started but abandoned. A continuation of The Lord of the Rings. All fans should read it! http://olmer.ru/arhiv/text/jrrt/1.shtml

SandroXXL

7/10/2007 11:56 AM UTC

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I think that The Lord of the Rings is a completely finished work, and if Tolkien were to write any more stories, it would be a "mini-add-on," an extra, call it what you will, but with the fall of Sauron, The Lord of the Rings ended. Perhaps that's why Tolkien refused to write another book; it wouldn't be able to be like the trilogy we all read.
By the way, I had a book from "Eksmo" with a translation by Muravyov, and the names in that book seem more familiar to me. But "Onty" – yes, that's definitely a mistake.

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Amko

7/10/2007 2:01 PM UTC

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One word: The Lord of the Rings – ROCKS! :smile54:
P.S.: Azbuka did a good job with the translation. :)
P.P.S.: Regarding the game from EA Games – :smile18: :D

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Saruman

7/12/2007 9:04 AM UTC

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the shooter one – yes, but I liked the strategy game, it’s almost based on the book.

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Amko

7/12/2007 9:58 AM UTC

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The one that's a shooter – yes, but I liked the strategy game; it's almost like the book.

A shooter? I haven't played Return of the King :o, and The Fellowship wasn't made by EA... but what strategy game are you talking about? I know of 3: LotR War of the Ring (it's not from EA), and LotR Battle for Middle-earth 1 and 2. I've played all 3... 1: WARCRAFT in Middle-earth :D, 2: Not very good, it's based on the movie, but the 3rd one is really good... it's a shame that I have the English collector's edition,

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SandroXXL

7/12/2007 10:21 AM UTC

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Yes, War of the Ring is very similar to Warcraft 3, probably it was inspired by it, but I still liked the game. Even though it doesn't have the same depth as the game from Blizzard, it's still playable. The main thing for me is that there isn't an overwhelming number of units, as in global strategy games, and it's a "game for evenings," which isn't a bad thing. Games from EA are, of course, more cinematic than their predecessors, but the simplified building and minimal resources are a drawback. Again, IMHO.

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Xlamus

7/12/2007 3:15 PM UTC

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The only truly significant flaw is that they don't show the battle in the Shire at the end.

I disagree. I approve of Jackson's decision here. This battle in the book evokes the greatest dislike in me. It completely contradicts the spirit and idea of the book; I don't know why Tolkien wrote it:smile48:

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Amko

7/12/2007 5:55 PM UTC

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Yes, War of the Ring is very similar to Warcraft 3, probably it was inspired by it, but I still liked the game. Even though it doesn't have the same depth as the game from Blizzard, it's still playable. The main thing for me is that it doesn't have a huge number of units, like in global strategy games, and it's a "game for evenings," which isn't a bad thing. Games from EA are, of course, more cinematic than their predecessors, but the simplified building and minimal resources are a drawback. Again, IMHO.

And who said that War of the Ring is a bad game? I, for example, liked it. :)
Yes, I would also like to see this episode at the end of the movie. :)

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SandroXXL

7/12/2007 7:29 PM UTC

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I disagree. Here I approve of Jackson's decision. This little war in the book is what I find most objectionable. It completely contradicts the spirit and idea of the book, I don't know why Tolkien wrote it:smile48:

A little war in the book?! The entire Lord of the Rings is centered around warfare, on the idea of the exodus of the elves, and the establishment of humanity as not the strongest, but the most resilient race that outlasted everyone. With the end of the war, the elves vanished! The war with Sauron COMPLETELY changed the world (except perhaps for the hobbits who are impenetrable), it drew in all the peoples of Middle-earth, and it also shows the rebirth of the world in the form of the blooming Tree-I-don't-remember-the-name. No matter what happens, life goes on.

And who said that War of the Ring is a bad game? I liked it, for example.

No one said that; I just said that it is Warcraft-like and moderately interesting.

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Saruman

7/14/2007 4:06 AM UTC

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I disagree. I approve of Jackson's decision. This war in the book evokes the greatest disapproval in me. It completely contradicts the spirit and idea of the book; I don't know why Tolkien wrote it.

- Don't say that; the episode in the Shire shows how the hobbits matured during their wanderings. Besides, this serves as a final battle, somewhat diluting the overall happy ending. Without prolonging the finale, it would be impossible to avoid leaving too many unanswered questions if the book ended with the ring being thrown into Orodruin.

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