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I sometimes ask myself the same question when reading your очередный provocative post :D
At first, you strenuously try to move faster in order to reach a certain increased limit for heavy moves in the game
I myself occasionally try to watch Al Fein's streams, and I can't last more than 10 minutes — watching him spend 10-20 seconds deciding whether to take a pile to the right or below is just dreadfully tedious. And then he complains that +30 seconds isn't enough for him.
Honestly, it's easier to just take a pile diagonally, and use the saved time later for more important decisions.
I think something like 18-8.15-1.30 for x3dm1 and 21-8.30-1.30 for Diamond would be acceptable. I will pay special attention to the time for battles, as there are many of them at the beginning, and this is a key moment.
In my opinion, even 8:30 doesn't differ much; the difference will be noticeable around 9:00.
I understand your point about the battles, and I might even agree...
I sometimes try to watch Al Fein's streams, but I can't stand it for more than 10 minutes – watching him spend 10-20 seconds deciding whether to take a group on the right or below is very boring. And then he complains that he doesn't have +30 seconds.
Even in this thread above, there's a message from Benis about our game on Mirror mode, where he writes that I was playing, sacrificing quality for the sake of the timer. So, work is being done. I don't like it when the timer is hopeless (in terms of quality), and I don't hide it. When there's a chance, I try to practice. I understand how slow I can be, and I don't use it as an argument anywhere.
That's why I refer to the opinions of really top players. Among them, Cobra, Lucky, de Luxe, and Hell have already expressed their views in favor of increasing the timer on Mirror maps (relative to 16-8-1) in this thread.
And most importantly, I wrote in my previous post.
it would be better if you used the same persistence to make your crew work on this from a technical standpoint.
Regarding the timer, Al Fine is certainly too subjective; Lutzki is quite slow, but 16-8-1 is indeed a short timer for X3DM1, not to mention the even more resource-intensive Diamond, where the game often ends in the middle of the second week, and battles in the middle of the first week can be similar to the second week in X3DM1. To clarify, or perhaps remind some, I'll explain how the chess timer works. At the beginning, you try to make moves quickly to accumulate a certain increased limit for complex moves in the game. "Elite" players do this better because they have hundreds (thousands) of pre-rehearsed moves based on templates. This also saves time later, but even those who play constantly sometimes face too many complex choices with many possible developments, where you can't just play on autopilot. So, on MT_Diamond, the stage where you accumulate the timer is practically non-existent; you immediately spend it because there are plenty of resources and actions. In X3DM1, things are a little more lenient. I think something like 18-8.15-1.30 for X3DM1 and 21-8.30-1.30 would be acceptable for Diamond, with particular attention paid to the time for battles, as there are many of them at the beginning, and this is a key moment.
If even a super-fast player says this, what can be said about the others? - The others simply won't be able to handle these templates with such a short timer and won't enjoy participating in the tournament.
I'll reiterate that the 16-8 timer in HotA with Overkill for mirror matches should be labeled as RAPID / FAST, or whatever you want to call it, but it should be labeled as ACCELERATED, not a normal TIMER.
Similarly, as the Blitz-Jebus tournament is not simply called Jebus, but specifically BLITZ, this tournament should not be simply called Mirrors, but "FAST" Mirrors.
Vic, just write one counter-argument regarding the tournament name.
Why are you so stubborn if everyone is reasonably arguing that the timer you're pushing isn't very good?
I could understand if you had arguments, but you don't.
Are you really choosing the path of simply doing something badly and hoping, like an ostrich burying its head in the sand, that everything will somehow work out on its own?
I have stated my arguments, and there is not much more to add. If they don't suit you, then they don't.
I will not change the tournament name because "rapid" in the Heroes terminology means 12+6+1. If I ever decide to hold a tournament on mirror maps with such a timer, then the name will definitely include "rapid".
Why are you so stubborn when people from different sides are reasonably arguing that the timer you're pushing isn't very good?
It would be understandable if you had arguments, but you don't.
It's clear that the problem might not be with the tournament name, but perhaps with the fact that, despite it being stated clearly that this timer is accelerated, you still consider it normal. Either way, you should have some arguments – either why you think you have the right to decide which timer is normal (without even playing mirror matches yourself), or why you don't want to adjust the tournament name if you're consciously pushing for an accelerated timer.
Are you really choosing the path of simply doing something badly in silence and hoping, like an ostrich burying its head in the sand, that everything will somehow work out on its own?
ps Move it to the Tribunal yourself if you think it's necessary... I still don't understand why discussions directly related to this tournament are moved to the Tribunal, and I haven't heard any explanation as to why this is done... especially since, as a result of the discussions, the rules have already been changed for the better at least once.
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Are you remembering the arguments correctly?
You just think it's a fast timer, but if you try playing, you'll understand that it's normal? Or am I missing something?
If that's the case, then it's clear that it's impossible to reason with you.
We'll learn to play quickly and efficiently like Lizard. Reddit will help us if needed. :)
Vik, at least give one counter-argument regarding the tournament name.
Why are you so stubborn if, from different sides, you are being presented with reasoned arguments that the timer you are pushing isn't very good?
It would be understandable if you had arguments, but you don't.
It's clear that the problem might not be with the tournament name, but perhaps with the fact that, despite it being stated clearly that this timer is accelerated, you still consider it normal. Either way, you should have some arguments - either why you think you have the right to decide which timer is normal (without even playing mirror matches yourself), or why you don't want to adjust the tournament name if you are consciously pushing for an accelerated timer.
Are you really choosing the path of simply doing something badly in silence and hoping, like an ostrich burying its head in the sand, that everything will somehow work out on its own?
ps Move it to the "Tribuna" yourself if you think it's necessary... I still don't understand why discussions that are directly related to this tournament are moved to the "Tribuna," and I haven't heard any explanation as to why this is done... especially since, as a result of the discussions, the regulations have already been changed for the better at least once.
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Are you remembering the arguments correctly?
You just think it's a fast timer, but if you try playing, you'll understand that it's okay? Or am I missing something?
If that's the case, then it's clear that it's impossible to reason with you.
We'll learn to play quickly and efficiently from Lizard. Reddit will help us if needed. :)

