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#622
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Azuchi
Malicious and biased

These are truly offensive words that have absolutely nothing to do with you, esteemed Dyrman. So, am I correct in understanding that you were offended by these words and therefore blocked the forum user Rameliya?
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Are "malicious" and "biased" offensive terms? As someone who "joined the forum" ten years ago and has been one of its most active users for all these ten years, I would say that the moderator should control themselves and not abuse outdated rules when someone hurts their feelings.
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Is "malicious" and "biased" offensive language? I'll say this as someone who "joined the forum" ten years ago and who has been one of its most active users for all those ten years – the moderator should control themselves, not abuse outdated rules when someone hurts their feelings.
Insults only give 25 points. That's not nearly enough for a ban. But a fair decision was made. Feelings have nothing to do with it; don't advise what you don't know. For any complaint about insults and after it's confirmed, I would do exactly the same.
Rameliya received 50 points for section 4.22, which was enough for a ban. For different messages. And she could have stopped after the first one with the points and not written a second. Moreover, a message was sent in PM explaining why and for what this was given.
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Is it fair to award a user 100 points for discussing the actions of moderators in a situation where there is essentially no one to complain to and 50 points for fabricated insults? Why not resolve this situation by showing some professionalism instead of creating a bad reputation for the forum?

Reviewing this episode, I can highlight the following:
a) Personally, I don't see any insults in these two messages, but if you want to find them, you can even find them where they don't exist. The only difference is that the moderator can take action against the user, but the user cannot take action against the moderator.
b) In this message, the actions of the moderator are not being discussed as such; rather, a fact is stated (the reason why a certain user is unable to perform certain actions).
c) Since there is no administrator on the forum, there is nowhere to complain about the moderator, which means that the last word always remains with him (even if he is wrong).

With the exception of the social section and the third Heroes section, the forum is now almost dead and is going through far from its best times. Throwing around points, blocking non-malicious users, and creating a bad reputation for the forum is not the best way to help it.
Couldn't we show some flexibility?
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Azuchi
b) in this post, the moderator's actions as such are not being discussed; it is simply stating a fact (the reason why a certain user is unable to perform certain actions).
All the negativity and reasons for violations are hidden under a tag. You don’t even see them.
Azuchi
Is it fair to award a user 100 points for discussing moderators' actions when there is essentially no one to complain to, and 50 points for fabricated insults? Why not resolve this situation by showing some professionalism instead of creating a bad reputation for the forum?
You aren't active in the "Fifth" section and you don't know that the bad reputation isn't with the moderator at all. And many people are complaining about specific individuals. Not just on the forum. But it's better to discuss this in PMs if, of course, you are interested and need proof.
The two remaining moderators (in reality) in the "Fifth" section are actively developing it, holding contests, restructuring it for convenient access and clear display, etc. They are also developing the entire section, promoting the forum, etc.
Contacts were also established with YouTubers and other platforms to promote the forum.
By the way, I communicate very well with the author of the mod collection, which is being promoted by people who have been banned from the forum; we even held joint streams.
You simply lack information to get the full picture.
Azuchi
Throwing around points, blocking non-malicious users, and creating a bad reputation for the forum is far from the best way to help it.
Couldn't you show a little flexibility?

Flexibility has been shown constantly. Points for piracy were only issued after numerous warnings, demanding that links be removed. These weren’t always removed, but when they were, they reappeared after some time, etc.
For some reason, other users on the forum follow the recommendations (which are also the rules).

Rameliya has expressed herself even more harshly before, but it is already impossible to constantly ignore this, seeing how favorite topics for other users are polluted and causing negativity.

For example, these users have repeatedly been warned about point 4.22, but no points were given, for example, even a year ago: /post/923843/
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However, as far as I know, the moderator Dyrman or Ment himself allowed him to post this link in his signature, which he did. He did this because, like me, he was often asked questions like: Where can I download the Gold Collection?
I didn't allow it. My position has always been that there are private messages for such links.
make a note to moderator Dyrman for systematically violating the forum rules, namely:
point 4.9 of the Violations System;
point 4 of the main rules of the portal www.HeroesWorld.ru:
point 17 of the Moderator Rules
Why are you referring to these points?
4.9 violations
For any direct or indirect insults to users, third parties, or organizations - 25 violation points
Is assigning points to a user and notifying him about the violation an insult?
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HeroesWorld prohibits any direct or indirect insults to users, third parties, or organizations.
Same question.
17 moderator rules
When assigning violation points in accordance with the current provisions of the HeroesWorld violation system, the moderator must make decisions impartially. If the opposite is found in the actions of the moderator, the question of his removal from office or the question of limiting his powers related to assigning violation points may be raised.
Well, if your position is true, you could still bring something up.

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Rameliya
Blah-blah-blah...

Enough with the nonsense! Your profile says you're from Kyiv, then Simferopol... but judging by your writing style, as well as the writing style of atlant108 and Anton Turov, it seems like you're all using the same keyboard! There are two possibilities: either you are all from the same dorm or are members of the same family, but most likely, you are all the same person!
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Most likely, no one here knows me (and they shouldn't). However, I decided to share my humble opinion regarding the ban of Dima Zavolodko (atlant108). It seems to me that the violation of the rules is evident. Dima has repeatedly violated the rules, but the admins (coordinators, moderators), due to their kindness, did not issue penalty points but warned him and asked him to remove the pirated link. I think even Dima won't argue that he was warned, but he didn't listen (and when he received penalty points for his previous offenses, he suddenly became upset). P.S. I will only say that not so long ago, Dima and I had a conflict, and he promised to block my channel (report it), and close my VK group. This means that I will no longer create guides for Heroes 5, make reviews of fan-made mods, maps, and campaigns posted on the forum. Draw your own conclusions, gentlemen, whether Dmitry wants to popularize Heroes and the Heroes world. Of course, it's commendable that the culprit of all this is promoting EWA, but it still needs to be done without violating the general rules of the forum. Peace and positivity to all
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Wow. A moderator-user feud. Haven't seen anything like that since the Hostorov Link forums. Awesome.

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Just please don't ban Revan.
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#632
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All the negativity and reasons for the violation are hidden under a tag. You don't even see them.
How can I not see them?
Rameliya
He was blocked by one malicious and biased moderator for helping a forum member download the Gold Edition of Heroes 5.
Are we talking about this? Or is there some secret, invisible tag for ordinary users? If so, I admit I jumped to conclusions.
And many people are complaining about certain individuals. And not just on the forum. But it's better to discuss this in private messages, if you're interested and want to see the evidence.
That would be great. I'd be happy to take a look at the complaints from many people, both on and off the forum, in a private message.
Flexibility is constantly demonstrated there. Points were given for piracy only after numerous warnings, with a demand to remove the links. They weren't always removed, and when they were, they would reappear after a while. Etc.
I'm not talking about Atlanta 108 right now. What I saw this evening was that a user had no points, and then suddenly had a hundred points for discussing the actions of the moderators, and another fifty for insults, which I couldn't find anywhere.
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Fortunately, Roskomnadzor resolved the current dilemma long ago by backing up the executive moderators and blocking access to the website with a link to download the fifth installment of "Heroes of Might and Magic" from the signature of a banned user for Russian users. Therefore, I don't see any reason to continue banning him instead of fully exonerating him and waiting for his return from prison.
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Azuchi

I'm not talking about atlant108 right now. What I saw this evening was that the user had no points, and then suddenly, a hundred points appeared for discussing moderator actions, and another fifty for insults, which I couldn't find anywhere.
You're mistaken. He had 52 points from last year. It seems that you also had problems with moderators at one time, so you might be too categorical.
Rameliya could have received all 100 points last year, but she didn't receive a single one. I felt sorry for her. Now I see that I was wrong.
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Rameliya, your profile says you're from Kyiv, then from Simferopol... but judging by your writing style, as well as the writing style of atlant108 and Anton Turov, it seems that the same keyboard is being used! There are two possibilities: either you are all three from the same place, for example, a dormitory, or members of the same family, but most likely, you are all the same person!
By the way, regarding atlant108, Rameliya, and Anton Turov, the forum data shows that they have the same IP address, which suggests that they might be clones.
I remember that after one IP address was found to be shared by atlant108 and Rameliya, atlant108 said that they were brother and sister, but they live in different places, so why do they have the same IP address...
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Well, if that's the case, then you should also ban people for creating multiple accounts, and not just for "discussing the actions of the administration," right?
А, вот почему.

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Well, if that's the case, then you should ban for creating multiple accounts, not for "discussing the actions of the administration," right?
There are so many things you could ban people for there that it would last for a year. Assigning points for each violation seems excessive to me. Anyway, he's already banned. His ban will end on the 13th, I think. atlant108 also wrote to me on VK, saying he has no complaints. But "others" wrote that they do. And considering that this could be the same person, it's a rather complicated game on his part.

We only identified clones for 3 users yesterday.

Last year, there was a similar situation, and neither atlant108 nor Rameliya were banned. But some people don't change...
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Yeah, to be honest, I didn't expect such a heated discussion.
To the point: atlant108 and Rameliya are brother and sister. This issue has already been raised, and I don't see the point in dwelling on it. Rameliya occasionally visits Crimea (Simferopol), so she changes the city in her profile. I hope the situation is now clear.

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Insults only give 25 points.

Respected Durman, if an insult only gives 25 points, then why did you give 50?

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By the way, regarding atlant108, Rameliya, Anton Turov, the forum data shows that they have the same IP address, which suggests: are they not clones?

For complete clarity, I'll add that we work in the same company.
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