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This tournament is an official rated tournament.
The first 24 registered players are divided into 4 teams of 6 players per team. Players who registered but were not among the first 24 have the right to join the tournament as replacements for eliminated players in order of registration.
Each team will have 1 captain and 5 players. The captain of each team is determined by the tournament judges. Other players are distributed into baskets based on player strength, taking into account existing ratings on two resources: HeroesWorld and HeroesLeague. After this, a random draw will be held to distribute players into specific teams. That is, in each team, players will be arranged by their strength and rating in reverse order.
Team captains: sir_moz, dmitrik, ekzekut, will.
1st basket: Vip.rus, Igrok- -76, DanielM, Y11;
2nd basket: Stefandmy, ABKSever, BOLIVAR, Adv;
3rd basket: Zaknafeyn1985, GL, KillAndAction, XPEH;
4th basket: Yaughen, Leolopus, fil0sof, alijvit;
5th basket: Элементаль Бога, $an4es, kobralalala, leosnow.

The tournament takes place in 3 stages.
First stage - 30 days.
A member of each team plays a game against an opponent occupying the same position in their own team. That is, the player in 1st place (captain) of one team plays against the player in 1st place (captain) of another team. And so on: 2nd vs 2nd, 3rd vs 3rd, 4th vs 4th, 5th vs 5th, 6th vs 6th. Thus, in the First stage, each member of a team must play 3 games.
This stage consists of 3 rounds. The color of each team will be determined before the start of the 1st round and for the entire tournament: red, blue, green, yellow. In the 1st and 2nd rounds, random draws determine which teams will play against each other in the corresponding round. Each round lasts 10 days.
Second stage - 30 days.
Team members play in the following order (regardless of points earned):
- team members in 1st to 4th place play against members of other teams in 1st to 4th place, as assigned by the draw.
- team members in 5th place play against members of other teams in 6th place;
Third stage.
Based on the points earned by each team, the team with the highest number of points is determined. It will be declared the tournament winner. In case of a tie in points between teams, one game between the team captains will be played. Each captain must play 1 game against every other captain from the other team(s). If the best team is still not determined after these games, the team captains must nominate a member from their team. These members play one game against each other, and so on. Games are conducted until the best team is determined.
Reasons for player elimination from the tournament:
- failure to comply with the regulations and rules of this tournament;
- violation of tournament deadlines without prior notification to the tournament judge;
- fact of violating prohibitions in this tournament;
- rudeness, public insult of the organizer, judges, or tournament participants.
An eliminated player is replaced by the next player who registered first after the 20th person registered for this tournament. All results of the departing participant are transferred as "inheritance" to the player entering the tournament as their replacement.
The color of the participant for each game will be determined randomly by the tournament judges. Games take place on Huge size templates. Template list: M3, sun, letos, labyrinth, mask, rainbow, spider, crown. The template and factions are set randomly during map generation. The player's color is chosen by the "hosting" team's player.
2 points are awarded for a win in a game, 0 points for a loss, and 1 point for a draw.
Regarding discrepancies, time difficulties, being ignored by an opponent, etc., please report immediately in the tournament thread.
Games are played on the latest official version of the game. Currently – HoMM V: Tribes of the East 3.1; the Tournament Edition mod is used in this tournament. By default, the game is played on the Ubi server. By agreement, the game may be played via Hamachi, COMODO EasyVPN, GameRanger, and similar programs.
Game Settings:
Turn time limit – 10 minutes.
Animation speed – 5.
Quick combat – enabled.
Simultaneous turns – enabled.
Dynamic combat – disabled.
Ghost mode – disabled.
Autosave – enabled.
Game difficulty – hero
Daily saves are mandatory. Since the game has autosave, it is recommended to save once every 3 days.
In each round, every player has the right to one restart with map regeneration no later than the end of day 2, week 1, month 1 for team members in 1-4th place; 2 restarts no later than day 1, and 1 restart no later than day 2, week 1, month 1 for team members in 5-6th place.
If all creatures of both players die at the end of a battle/final battle, the victory goes to the one who made the last action on the battlefield (for example, cast Armageddon's Blade, broke a crystal, hit with lava dragon creatures and died from fire shield damage).
Map Generation Settings:
1."Zones Compatibility Factor" = 1.5
2."Monster Strength Factor" = 1.0
3."Portal Connection Only" - disabled (i.e., button not pressed)
3."No obstacles On Map" - disabled
4."Sigle Faction Guard" - Disabled
5."Selected Faction guard only" - Disabled
6."Different Faction" - Enabled
7."Disable Intant Travel" - disabled
8."Chaos week" - disabled.
Useful Links:
TE version 6.1.1
Skill wheel for TE version 6.0
IRMG version 1.6.7
Template schemes
Large size templates
Huge size templates
crown template (Huge size)
Prohibitions.
The use of any bugs, undocumented features, cheat codes, as well as unofficial programs and modifications is prohibited, except for the TE mod itself (and programs creating virtual networks).
The "Red-rush" technique is prohibited, meaning an attack by red on the first day of the week with purchased growth (the red player may attack on the first day, but without purchasing growth).
Any joining of neutrals is prohibited; as an exception, those who joined can be sacrificed into a pit or sold at the market.
It is prohibited to use the "Astral Gates" travel spell to jump into the opponent's starting zone.
In case of connection loss or game crash, the last autosave is loaded; players are required to exactly repeat all their moves up to the moment of connection loss or crash.
In case of connection loss or crash on the first day of the game, heroes are randomly assigned again.
In battles between players, a stalemate situation may arise (where neither player can win). In this situation, the attacking side must retreat or surrender (at their discretion). If the Shackles of War artifact is involved in the battle, then upon occurrence of a stalemate, the battle should be finished in AutoCombat mode.


Final result of the "Team Tournament":
1. Reds
2. Yellows
3. Blues
4. Greens

Reward to the winning team.

Please share your thoughts if you have anything relevant to say. After that, we'll draw lots once we decide on the tournament start date. I think we should start no later than Tuesday...

The third stage for determining the best team can be based on:
- only the seeding conducted before the tournament;
- only the number of points scored;
- a draw among the seeded players, for example, drawing between players ranked 1st to 3rd, and 4th to 6th;
- team captains choosing their opponent from the potential pairings (the order of participants in the list of potential pairings is kept secret);
- your own option.

1. I don't understand the purpose of the "baskets" – let's say the captain believes that ADV is stronger than Vip.rus (nicknames are just examples) – why can't he be drafted in the first round of the draft?
2. It's unclear why there are 3 stages and why the tournament is being stretched until spring when the initial idea was to hold a short tournament with 5-6 rounds. In the end, you could add one team and reduce the number of participants in the current teams.

I must be missing something, but why is ADV in the second tier? He could even be a captain, although I understand that there are enough captains, but why isn't he in the first tier? If they had appointed newbies like me as captains instead of experienced players, I would have chosen him first from the first tier, but he's been relegated to the second tier, which seems like a mistake, in my opinion.
UPDATE: I checked the rating on HW, and the person has the second-highest rating this year. Leaving him in the second tier is a mistake because the team he joins will immediately have a significant advantage over the others.

Definitely, we should switch me and Adv's positions at a minimum.
And another suggestion - let's hold the tournament in one stage - each team plays 3 rounds against each other, and that's it. If there's a strong desire for a final, the 1st and 2nd teams can play against each other (but in the final, we can allow the captains to "reshuffle" the seeding within the team).

and put me in the fourth slot. Does someone need points for the team?

I must be missing something, but why is ADV in the second tier? He could even be a captain, although there are plenty of captains, but why isn't he in the first tier? If they appointed newbies like me as captains instead of experienced players, I would choose him first from the first tier, but he's been relegated to the second tier, which seems like a mistake, at least in my opinion.
P.S. I checked the rating on HW, and this person has the second-best rating this year. Leaving him in the second tier is a mistake because the team he joins will immediately have a significant advantage over the others.

It's simple: there were three parameters where the most participants in the tournament were.
League rating, current league tournament, Might and Magic tournament on HW, everyone was assigned a weight from 2 to 5.
The worst result was discarded.
The sum of the points gave the final result.

Seriously, can someone explain to me why "baskets" are even needed? They're not necessary for drafts, and in a tournament, you have 5 players on a team – the captain arranges them on the "boards" at the beginning of the tournament as they see fit, and then you play with that setup (1-2-3-4-5). Let them put their strongest player on the 5th board if they want – what's the problem? A weaker player will just be on the first board then.

It's simple: there were three parameters where the most participants in the tournament were.
League rating, current tournament on the league, Might and Magic tournament on Hv, everyone was assigned a weight from 2 to 5.
The worst result was discarded.
The sum of the points gave the final result.

For me, it's obvious that in this case, this method failed. Let's just say, I can't say anything about you, I haven't played with you, but I did play with three other representatives from the first bracket, some in tournaments, some in fun matches, and IMO, ADV should be in the first bracket, especially since Daniel himself agreed to swap places. Leaving everything as it is would be a mistake, because if everything is more or less even in the other brackets, then there is a very obvious favorite in the second bracket, and that shouldn't be the case. Although, of course, it's up to the tournament organizers to decide.

If the captains believe that Adv is performing poorly, I can swap him out, as it would be logical given the lack of practice.

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Dude, explain to me, why are "baskets" even needed? They're not needed for the draft, and in a tournament, you have 5 players on your team - the captain arranges them on the "boards" at the beginning of the tournament as they see fit, and then you play with that arrangement (1-2-3-4-5). Let them even put their strongest player on the 5th board - what's the problem? A weaker player will be on the first board then.

We could just as easily flip a coin. Why do we need interesting games! And increased interest from the audience. I really hope for interesting streams. Also, I would like to ask the opposing team's participants to either not watch the stream or not give hints.

I don't know – I don't consider myself to be among the top players, more like in the 3rd or 4th tier, but I've always had interesting games against them. I had a good chance of winning against "Brodjaga," "Dmitrik," "Will," and "Moz" in games. I don't understand what the coin has to do with it.

Maybe we can create another team and make Ada the captain, as he's a bit too strong for the first tier, or he can join my team, and that would create a good balance.

I haven't quite figured out who will be playing with whom yet, but I don't think I'm any better than the players in the 2nd tier, so if needed, put me in the 4th team with Moz.

P.S. I'm ready to join Vil's team if needed.

Another question: what about the factions? I didn't quite understand. It's not like some kind of "good versus evil" or "light versus darkness" thing, right? In my opinion, it would be better to have the standard factions from the original game, with the eight races in a 1-2...2-1 setup.