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When 3DO announced the release of the Armageddon's Blade add-on in 1999, the press release seriously promised that the expansion would feature a new city called Forge, inhabited by cyber-zombies, pyromaniacs with flamethrowers, and Warhammer-esque orc machine gunners. The idea of mixing the magical and technological worlds was not new to the Might and Magic series, but it was a first for the Heroes games. The fans raised such a fuss that the developers had to change their minds. As a result, Forge never appeared, and players are still arguing about whether this was a good or bad thing. Here's what Forge could have looked like: Forge - a highly technological city. Heroes could have been: Cyborg and Magic Hero - Technician. Creatures: Level 1: Grunt and Foot Soldier - Orc machine gunner. As strong as any other level 1 creature. Level 2: Cyber-Dead and Cyber-Zombies - Zombies with rotating circular saws for hands. Level 3: Pyros and Pyromaniacs - Humanoids armed with flamethrowers. Level 4: Stinger and Bruiser - Ogre with a self-guided missile launcher. Stinger is as strong as any other level 4 ranged unit. Level 5: Soldier and Jump Trooper - Flying Minotaur with a jetpack and razor-sharp claws for melee attacks. Level 6: Tank and Heavy Tank - Semi-mechanical cyber-Naga tank. Only melee combat. Level 7: Juggernaut and Dreadnought

IS FORGE LOST FOREVER?

I admit that Forge could have been legendary if there was a chance to see it today. Looking at these past events, I doubt we will see Forge or any science fiction in the Heroes series. It could have looked like this.

Wow... Respect. KAHT, do you have any more screenshots, and in higher resolution? The idea was great. It would really emphasize the story of Kanghelm. I think it didn't find its application because the developers, for some reason, moved closer to fantasy and decided that technology wouldn't fit with swords. I'd like to see more of this. By the way, maybe we could create a new city, like a Bastion, where this idea could be implemented.

As I stated before, the typical majority of Heroes fans were against Forge. Early previews of Armageddon’s Blade only showed artwork of the units, and a few sketches of the Forge buildings. Fans worldwide began sending in their honest thoughts about Heroes. Most desperately pleaded with NWC to reconsider their actions and immediately remove Forge. Others threatened to boycott the game if Forge was implemented, and still others found some of the sketches so distasteful that they argued that Forge was “in poor taste.” They believed that Tank was a clear example of this. Typical Heroes fans, familiar with the Forge concept, were completely against the idea. Forge represented a clash of fantasy and science fiction. Heroes of Might and Magic lacked the sci-fi element of this universe, which was one of the main reasons NWC considered adding this city to the lineup. However, perhaps fortunately, perhaps unfortunately, we never saw Forge.

WhiteSmitt, you think that many screenshots were released to the world. Perhaps many were, but that was so long ago, and now only echoes of the past reach us. Regarding your request for screenshots, here are a few more.

In Forge, the buildings also differed significantly in their structure compared to other "city counterparts." Forge was originally conceived as merely a "technical workshop for a super-weapon." Perhaps we will see an updated version of this city in the future, but that is most likely just a product of my vivid imagination.

This is completely unacceptable. How can you compare an arrow and a rocket?

The idea is certainly interesting:o, but it completely changes the entire concept of the game!:mad:

Many fans of the game at that time talked only about this: "How can you compare an arrow and a rocket?" - that's exactly why Forge was closed and put in the abyss. Perhaps they were right, but the heroes were so well-balanced that everyone could play on an equal footing. Perhaps the power wasn't equal, but the construction cost and upkeep cost were completely adjusted. Regarding the game concept, this is partially true. The artillery is a significant change and only a slight echo of the fantasy genre, but I would like to note once again that Forge was conceived as a "super-artillery factory" and nothing more. But even now, as you can see, there is a very noticeable trend that Forge is just a figment of the developers' imagination.

Forge would have been another thread connecting the Might & Magic universe with its overarching concept and Heroes of Might and Magic. Here, one needs to read the history of the Might & Magic universe at this link, and many questions will immediately disappear: "Rockets versus bows." These are not questions from fans of the game but from strategists.

I fundamentally disagree. How can you compare an arrow and a rocket?

But why?
An arrow, a rocket, even a stone – any weapon is sufficient to kill an enemy.
The difference is that an arrow is a weapon for professionals, while a rocket is a weapon for noobs.
Just remember many movies where heavily armed special forces are defeated by a monster consisting only of claws.
Naga vs. Cyborg :) Titan vs. Tank :)
It's funny.

I certainly didn't mean their ballistic or destructive capabilities. After all, you can make an arrow more powerful than a nuclear bomb. The main issue is the inconsistency with the established lore. As far as I know, they are considered a technologically advanced race, and this doesn't fit. It would diminish the unique qualities of the race, and consequently, the interest in it. Although, of course, the experiment would be interesting, but in my opinion, it wouldn't be sustainable, and most likely unsuccessful (there are too many questions that need to be addressed without disrupting the foundations of the game).

I still don't understand about the Forge town: can you play with this town or not? :confused:

Inverno, I have to disappoint you – the city of Forge might just be a dream, or something similar. Unless, of course, the developers decide to bring this idea to life...

I'm hearing about Forge for the first time.

Listen, Kant, didn't you come up with this Forg? Is this amazing city not a product of your imagination? Something tells me that the creators of Heroes wouldn't even consider developing such a theme. And in Heroes 3, the super-mechanical weapons are the Golem from the Tower and its various configurations. Well, well, a pyromaniac with a rocket launcher and a grenade launcher against a small, red, shriveled imp – what a battle, it's truly captivating.