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16 years ago
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zloy_romantik
Yes, there was a sword +3 to attack... I didn't pay much attention to it, but still, it seems a bit weak for such a guard.
It could have been a quest item.
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16 years ago
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PReDS
He could have been a quest item. :)
Are there minor artifacts that are quest items?
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16 years ago
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Pit for LM
If monsters guard more than one object, their strength will be influenced by the total importance of the objects they are guarding.

The strength of the monsters inhabiting each zone is indicated.
Weak or weak (k=0.5?)
Average or average (k=1)
Strong or strong (k=1.5?)

On the small map, in the starting respawn points and secondary locations, the monsters are of the average type, and in the treasure locations, they are of the strong type. I assume that 16 monarchs guarded a sword + dungeon with 5k opponent hero power in the treasure locations.

In general, it would be interesting to know the exact formula by which the generator calculates the number of monsters for guarding.
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16 years ago
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The point is, it wasn't about the treasure.
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16 years ago
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bRitvo4kA
On the starting resource nodes and secondary resource nodes, the monsters are of average strength, while on tertiary resource nodes, they are of strong strength. I assume that 16 Monarchs were guarding a Sword and Dungeon worth 5,000 gold, with a hero of equal strength on the tertiary resource node.
I've seen guards of levels 6 and 7 on resource nodes many times.
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16 years ago
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I think the issue here isn't the level, but the quantity. The value of a 5th-level dungeon is 5000, and a minor artifact is also 5000. That's a total of 10,000. This is similar to the defense of Utopia. And Utopia would be guarded by approximately 10 monarchs, not 16. The conclusion is that the artifact is used by a generator for some kind of seer's hut in a quest, which is why it has a higher value, and therefore a higher total defense.
Wlk777
Are there quest-specific minor artifacts?
On the other hand, Valentin asked a good question. I just generated some maps, and quest artifacts are of the "treasure" class (art1), while the Blackshard of the Death Knight is of the "minor" class (art2).
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16 years ago
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I've already provided links on how to calculate this so many times... maybe I should put them somewhere in a reference section (useful information). Values of all objects: http://heroes.ag.ru/h3/rmg/value/ Unit table: http://dreamcatcher.metroland.ru/templates/units.html List of all artifacts (divided by levels and cost): http://heroesportal.net/library/index.php?version=h3&page=artifacts It is also necessary to consider that each week, the number of neutral creatures increases by 15%. If at the start, the guard of this dungeon consisted of 10 creatures, then after a month, there could be 16.
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16 years ago
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In the third tier, neutral creatures increase at a rate of +10%.
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16 years ago
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Quest-related minor artifacts do exist, although they are less common than treasure-related ones.
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16 years ago
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What kind of increase are you talking about?:D The game on map 127 is already over, and I took that Dungeon on map 125. Regarding the quest artifact, yes, that's the only thing that comes to mind.
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16 years ago
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zloy_romantik
What kind of increase are you talking about?:D The game on turn 127 is already over, and I took this dungeon on turn 125. Regarding the quest artifact, yes, that's the only thing that comes to mind.
Wasn't there a bunch of resources there?

Why not just open the save/map and check all the quest huts?
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16 years ago
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Catch
In the third game, the number of neutral creatures increases at a rate of +10%
Thanks, Captain ;)
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Wlk777
Thanks, Cap ;)
This was actually written for our Cap :D (see his post above).
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16 years ago
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bRitvo4kA
I think the question here isn't about the level, but about the quantity.
Wait, are you saying that the Utopia on respawn will be guarded by fewer identical monsters than in the Treasure? I highly doubt that.

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This was actually written for our Captain :D (see his post above)
Yeah, our Captain isn't quite living up to expectations :D
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Wlk777
Wait, what? Are you saying that fewer identical monsters will guard the Utopia on respawn than in the Treasure? I highly doubt that.
This is obvious, for example, on the Jebus map.

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