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But that's the point... If there were a good amount of common sense, it wouldn't be an anti-utopia... In "Fahrenheit 451," books were burned not exactly for rational reasons.
And by the way, in Fahrenheit 451, everything is quite rational; moreover, we already see almost everything that was predicted there, except for the burning of books.

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But burning books is irrational... It's just that someone needed it...
The same goes for Divergent. Of course, such a structure is very stupid for society. But it's just a malicious conspiracy of malicious lawyers... They deliberately came up with it.
 

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But burning books is irrational... It's just that someone needed it to happen...
I used to think the same way, but recently I read Huxley's "Brave New World," and the first thing that came to mind while reading it was, "the processes shown in '451' have reached a logical conclusion." Consider burning books a necessary transitional stage. But why is it necessary to execute everyone who manages to exhibit more than one quality? That's a huge number of people.

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Those who want to rule the world should make people one-sided, as it's easier to rule those who are not well-read. Mwuahaha!!! Haha!!
If that's the case, then why did everything collapse?

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The dictatorship collapsed at the end of the film, right? Or did they just mind-control everyone and leave on a train into the sunset?

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I also read "1984" and "Brave New World." In the latter, I didn't like the ending; it felt like it was added just for the sake of it, but the description of the society itself was good.
А, вот почему.

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Well, yes, but firstly, they were divergents. Secondly, the film doesn't clearly show what societal changes this led to. Judging by the fact that the comrades still had to leave, this dystopian society continued to exist.
Lawyers will still get their revenge.
 

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I don't understand why "New World" is portrayed as a dystopia. It's actually a wonderful and new future.
Well, yes, but first of all, they were divergents.
So, how do they decide who to execute and who to accept? And if they simply want to rule for the rest of their lives, their dictatorship won't last long. Besides, if the poor are in charge of society, why do they execute divergents? Aren't they supposed to be good?

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and in general, if poor people are in charge of society, why do they execute divergents? Aren't they supposed to be good?
Judging by what you've said here, they're not good, but just ordinary fanatics. And in the name of good, they'll kill everyone who gets in their way.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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This is where we will conclude the 2014 festival. Thank you to all participants for their involvement, and also thank Sesama for doing my job instead of me.

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Congratulations to everyone on the upcoming holidays, and I recommend checking out the following topics:
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Well, yes, but firstly, they were divergents. Secondly, the film doesn't clearly show what societal changes this led to. Judging by the fact that the comrades still had to leave, this dystopian society continued to exist.
In reality, behind the wall lies a normal, developed society that, for some reason, needed to conduct an experiment with a post-apocalyptic society and castes. Yep.
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I spent the rest of my reputation on Sylvan. (Thanks, Revan! Sylvan, well, they aren't divergents either. Just limited people who decided to rule over other limited people, without thinking about the consequences. It's all logical, although not reasonable.) ----- Ples, I wasn't aware of that. I'm just talking about what I've seen. I haven't read any books.
 

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