Dungeon — Project "Ascension".

Magnus

19 years ago

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Tengro;80873

Ple-Sen, since when have the Zloboglazy been cooperating with the Drow???
Yes, gentlemen, the general idea is great. Just fewer borrowings from Heroes. Because it turned out strangely in style. Riders on lizards and manticores... it's better to have riders on lizards and dragons... and give the lizards the ability to climb:
Remove the Illithids and place them with the Lolth Drow (and put the Drow in their place:) - note from the second You) (It won't work, they were called Drayters - note from the first I). Magn, you remember that Illithids are Underground Only according to all canons:)

1. We just have dark elves, not Drow, it seems.
2. I'm saying that, for variety, instead of riders on lizards, let's put riders on manticores, so that we don't end up with Heroes 5.
3. It's unlikely that the goddess would allow riding on her servants.

Ple-Sen

19 years ago

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Maybe some kind of elven mage with leadership skills and the ability to fly, or perhaps a special assassin who can climb walls?

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Magnus

19 years ago

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Ple-Sen;80881

Maybe some kind of leading elf mage with flight as one of his abilities, or perhaps a special assassin who can climb walls?

Well, usually in Heroes:
1. 2 flying units (1 in Dungeon)
2. 1 mage-archer
3. 1 archer
4. A slow unit with a large amount of HP
and then maybe take the monster system from Heroes 5 as a model and replace them from there?

Saruman

19 years ago

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I was surprised to read Magnus's post about needing to replace some units with Minotaurs, or else with Hydras – but what will be left for the Warlocks? Besides, why are dragons necessary?
Ple-San, read the unit descriptions – there's a levitating Seer and a teleporting Night Sorceress. The idea of climbing through walls is interesting, but it has already been used in the pseudo-Chinese faction.

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Magnus

19 years ago

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Saruman;81328

I was surprised to read Magnus's post about needing to replace some units with Minotaurs or Hydras – but what would be left for the Warlocks? Besides, why are dragons a must?
Ple-San, read the unit descriptions – there's a levitating Seer and a teleporting Night Sorceress. The idea of climbing through walls is interesting, but it's already been used in the pseudo-Chinese faction.

Well, I just thought that our Warlocks and High Elves were one faction :o
At the very least, they could have been combined, like they did in Heroes 5.

Saruman

19 years ago

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I don't think there are enough underground creatures to support two factions, and besides, dark elves and Dungeon are quite different in spirit.

Vihja Drow

19 years ago

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And even if something overlaps, it's not a problem))). We can do it like this: let's say, Minotaurs: there will be 1 basic type and 2 upgrade lines for 2 factions, and simple Minotaurs can be upgraded along either of them, regardless of which faction's castle they were purchased in. This creates a lot of possibilities, such as a military alliance with recruits being sent from one castle to another. (by the way, such overlaps can be created for other factions as well, since we have many of them).

Saruman

19 years ago

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Hmm! That's an original idea! However, I don't think we need to include Minotaurs here; there's already a lot going on, and I think we can find a way to create intersections with someone else's faction.

XEL

19 years ago

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What happened to the old Dark Elves from Jadama? We should mention that Kobolds are a mutation of Lizardfolk from Tatallia or Jadama. Or one of Agar's creations (including Gremlins and Minotaurs).

Saruman

19 years ago

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What happened to the old Dark Elves from Jadama?

- uh... I don't know, I'm not very familiar with them...

I should mention that Kobolds are a mutation of Lizardfolk from Tatallia or Jadama. Or one of Agar's creations (including Gremlins and Minotaurs).

- but I don't think it's that important... because there are too many new creatures now, and there can be many explanations for them, and it's not necessary to make it so detailed...

XEL

19 years ago

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The Jadama dark elves. The founders of the main city of Jadama are the Alvara. They live on the surface and are merchants. They follow the path of darkness, but not in the same way as the drow or the Ashan dark elves.

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Мугайс

19 years ago

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They are actually quite good dark elves :) Besides the name, white hair, and worship of spiders, they have nothing in common with stereotypical dark elves.

XEL

19 years ago

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Are you talking about these ones or the ones from Джадам?

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Мугайс

19 years ago

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XEL;86894

Are you talking about these ones or the ones from Jadame?

I mean the ones from Jadame, of course. I played Might and Magic VIII a lot and always paid close attention to all the NPC dialogues. The local dark elves left a lasting impression on me:rolleyes: