Mafia 106. Plague. Dragon Utopia — Mafia

Registered: 5/23/2015

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#136 4/28/2017 2:46 PM UTC

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Then I want to know if laying on hands and inflicting a negative status effect counts as a killing non-damage ability.

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In general, we have questions, and until I come up with a poll, they will continue.

Registered: 3/22/2013

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#137 4/28/2017 2:47 PM UTC

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although it's unclear whether Clara's non-damage ability is considered a kill-inducing one. Maybe I was too hasty about the guarantees. I should also clarify that with Fragment.

..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.

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Registered: 9/13/2012

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#138 4/28/2017 2:47 PM UTC

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Ment

Why not? Night hasn't been declared yet.

Well, our game kind of starts at night, not during the day. Although it's not specified in the rules...

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

Registered: 5/23/2015

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#139 4/28/2017 2:50 PM UTC

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But Sesham, your option doesn't differentiate between Mafia and Mana. And it reveals the Stronghold player. In my opinion, revealing the Stronghold player is worse than revealing Clara, who can be controlled anyway.

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And what difference does it make, day or night?
We're writing a plan for the night phase. Are we really interested in when they randomly move around? Instead, there will be a discussion about whether or not to choose a player as the target for the night phase.

Registered: 3/22/2013

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#140 4/28/2017 2:59 PM UTC

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okay, I agree that my option isn't perfect. We need to think about it some more, but not today.

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Uran, you can't talk at night. Read the rules.

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in general, I couldn't come up with anything better than your option. Now we need to ask Fragment if we correctly guessed the answers to our questions.

We start the game at night, not during the day.

Has it already started? As I understand it, the game won't start until everyone confirms they've received their roles and the GM waves the flag.

..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.

Registered: 10/30/2009

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#141 4/28/2017 3:00 PM UTC

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Cop, what doubts can there be?
I'm proceeding from the assumption that all Mafia and Villagers are not the City and are immune to infection.
Clara is also definitely immune, so with the third question, we separate her from the rest of the "bad guys."
At the same time, the poll finds a Villager. Because for him, the answer to the third question is true, and, of course, we tell all the Villagers to lie in the answer to the third question. That is, we directly tell them, in bold and larger font. We don't guess what options there are, but clearly tell the Villagers to only lie in the third question.
That is, all Villagers except Clara answer yes, yes, yes*.
Clara: yes, yes, no*.
The Villager can answer:
Yes* no, yes, no Yes* yes, no, no no*
The Mafia can answer:
Yes* no, no, no yes* no, no no no*

Essentially, this is a precise distinction between City and not City. The Mafia can reveal themselves as Mafia or pretend to be a Villager; obviously, they will choose the latter.
The Villager can reveal themselves as a Villager or maintain the ambiguity of Villager/Mafia, although the Mafia will still find out the truth.

Let's go with that if everything has been interpreted correctly.

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Registered: 5/23/2015

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#142 4/28/2017 3:09 PM UTC

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Night hasn't fallen yet. (Yes, I'm a well-known bug abuser). It's still unknown what the fragment will answer; I don't think it planned the poll to be straightforward. But in general, the questions are exactly like that. I remind everyone that you need to lie on the last question, the one about the number of ultimates. If, for some reason, the poll turns out to be different, because it turns out, for example, that for the block, the truth to the question about infection is "yes," then we consider which question would be best to lie about. And then we answer.

Registered: 3/22/2013

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#143 4/28/2017 3:19 PM UTC

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so, we consider different scenarios and decide which question would be best to lie about.

If I understand your point correctly, negatives cannot answer in a way that includes "yes-yes-any answer." It seems that this is the approach we should take.

..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.

Registered: 5/23/2015

Posts: 913

#144 4/28/2017 3:28 PM UTC

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Since the Lizardfolk doesn't want to, let's go over the roles:
Bachelor. Healing > infection check. Save the ultimate ability for later.
Burakh. He's just chilling, so he doesn't have any legal targets.
Clara. Lay on Hands is better than Hypnotic Word, which is better to use later when it's roughly clear whose statuses will reveal the setup. But hypnosis is also an option.
Block. Isolation is better on a random target early on. The only reason to use Protect is if isolation might prevent a check, which we want to avoid. Just because we'll suffer if the target is a Mafia member and is also isolated.
Don't shoot, Lilich. Just do a check.
Kaina - is it worth going into isolation right away? Probably yes, even considering that it might interfere with the check. Although, waiting until the second night is also fine. After all, the ultimate ability is supposed to be used on the fifth night. So, in any case, isolation will have to be skipped on the fifth night.
It's hard to advise Olgin. However, the resources allow for five sends from himself.
Here, we need to test whether the send will be displayed to the target as a translation. If not, sending a check to the Mafia could have consequences for Olgin himself. However, it's worth saving self-healing for later nights (3 and later). So, maybe chilling is not the worst option.
Saburov's check, if it's legal as described earlier. If not, a check and a block are equally possible, with a block being better in the later stages.

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#145 4/28/2017 3:29 PM UTC

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Is it true that the Rat Prophet and the Plague Maiden should answer this question, and if the answer is true, it should be "no," as their abilities prevent them from being infected?

That's a good question, by the way.
Perhaps we should clarify the second question right away like this?

Are you a town? (regarding faction)
Can you be infected with a regular infection (i.e., not by the Sand Elemental, but by a regular infection)? (regarding abilities)
Do you have more than one ultimate ability? (regarding skills)

..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.

Registered: 11/11/2009

Posts: 3,670

#146 4/28/2017 3:30 PM UTC

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The player is currently unable to connect to the network, but he called and asked to post a message, since everyone has received their roles. The first night begins; send your Night Defense (ND) message to the game master in a private message. Also, inform the game master if you need to skip your Night Defense.

Registered: 9/23/2015

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#148 4/28/2017 5:06 PM UTC

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Everyone, listen to Rimpel while I'm away; he will be the GM. (no)
By the way, Rimp, I forgot to ask when I called, will you be returning my 100 soon? :smile04:

Is applying Touch of Death and inflicting a curse considered a killing non-damaging attack?

Yes.

Fragment, if you ask Dankovsky or Block:
"Can you be infected? Is the truth for them yes or no?"

This is a question about specific traits. The Bachelor has no traits that would imply an inability to be infected, so the truthful answer would be yes. It's more complicated with Block – his trait means exactly that, so the truthful answer depends on whether it is active or not.

Is it true that the Rat Prophet and the Blight should answer "no" to this question if telling the truth, as their traits prevent them from being infected?

Yes.

Night begins.
Send me your non-damaging attack reports in a private message if you haven't already. Send any remaining questions there or to Skype.

Registered: 9/23/2015

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#151 4/29/2017 7:53 PM UTC

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Look into my eyes

Greetings! I am the Performer, one of the Masks of our highly respected Director of the Theater, Mark the Immortal. Unfortunately, our esteemed puppeteer failed censorship, so, while he is absent, I will be hosting the show! And although I am just one of many Performers and have neither a name nor a history, I will provide you with an incredible performance! A performance about the events in the city. Incredible in its accuracy, truthfulness, and impartiality!

We are not just actors. Wherever something bad has happened, you will see us. Silently guarding the cursed places, preventing passage to where it is not yet possible to go. God forbid you return home and see a person in a dirty cloak and with a sinister raven mask on his head at your door.

Soon we will be everywhere.

To give shape to this sad picture, I am writing these notes. But, let's not talk about sad things. I am just an extra in this world; the real power lies with the true heroes, who are among you, dear readers. So, all of this may not even happen! Although, who am I kidding... Some evil cannot be found, cannot be deceived. It is here. And most likely, it is also reading these lines right now. Yes, yes, it's YOU.
...
The introduction is over. And now I take a pen with a different font and raise the curtain.

"Some areas of the city are best avoided at night... However, Evil Lizard apparently didn't know this; he only recently arrived. Although the street he was walking on seemed completely empty, death was inexorably approaching him. Closer to morning, the townspeople found Evil Lizard lying motionless on the road. Strangely, there were no wounds on his body. The suitcase with medicines that he usually carried was gone, most likely stolen by marauders."

He was relatively lucky. I stumbled upon a poor fellow this morning, from whom a good half of the organs had been cut out. Could it be that a maniac has appeared in this backwater town?

"Naturally, after such events, the locals were agitated. Various strange rumors appeared about the pranks of steppe spirits, and some used this to their advantage. So, someone superstitious agreed to conduct a cleansing session, and, strangely enough, he actually felt better afterward."

Self-suggestion, as it is.

"The military, which recently settled in the city, also reacted to the latest events. Rumor has it that they caught someone and are now keeping him under surveillance."

Here are the downsides of the lack of clear authority in the city. The military has only just arrived, and they are already doing as they please...

On stage:
1. Andrew the First-Called - Drakkoska
3. John the Theologian - Gur
4. James, son of Zebedee - Uranium235
5. Philip - RiMpel2
6. Bartholomew - Neyra Drake
7. Levi Matthew - KindShaman
8. Thomas - Ment
9. James, son of Alphaeus - Heroist
10. Thaddaeus - WishmasteR
11. Simon the Zealot - Sesame
12. Judas Iscariot - Nebo

Finished performing:
2. Peter - Evil Lizard

The day begins.

Registered: 7/16/2007

Posts: 32,020

#152 4/29/2017 8:02 PM UTC

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It wasn’t me, I swear.

А, вот почему.

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Registered: 12/20/2007

Posts: 35,679

#153 4/29/2017 8:05 PM UTC

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It was me, honestly.

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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