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In reply to Papik
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9 years ago
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Papik
The formalism of the law should never negate common sense – laws are created not to trample on common sense, but to support it. But here, that's not the case.

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9 years ago
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I think Mee made the right decision; order is maintained by people like him.
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9 years ago
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Correct in essence, but not in form.
In reply to HellLighT
9 years ago
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HellLighT (Blue, Swamp, Brokhild) def Tofsla (Red, Necropolis, Galtran). Mini-nostalgia 124

We defended all the respawn points; on the computer's respawn point and my own, it yielded 2 hives and a consulate. Starting from 121, I began gathering resources, and by 124, I was in Flaks' treasure zone, preparing to take the library. I had 2 hives + boots, as well as Dragon Utopia. I would have taken it on turn 125, but my opponent rushed and unsuccessfully tried to kill ГО with 10 lords using Thunderbirds. He surrendered. Thanks for the game.

P.S. The decision was ultimately made by Mee, because I am an interested party, but this kind of thing – "oh, can I use autosave or did I slightly break the rules?" (I’m generally saying that I’ve seen/heard this more than once on the Wargaming Tournament platform, not about this specific situation) – is complete nonsense. This is a money tournament; you shouldn't make actions if you are unsure. If you didn't read the regulations carefully, reread them (when I doubt something, that's what I do). For any controversial issue, contact the hosts and judges. Why did you assume that violating the rules should be ignored? In ongoing tournaments, defeats were awarded immediately and for less serious offenses.
On my part, I already wrote that I was wrong to present my opinion as the only correct one, and also got carried away while discussing the opponent's actions, although now you are doing no better with your own comments.
P.P.S. Regarding reviewing all games in a row, it is clear that addressing save reviews requires concrete, substantial arguments confirmed by some action during the game. I believe that I raised the question not without reason; there were questions, I sent them to the judge for review regarding possible unfair play. If you think that assessing it requires only saving from one day, you are mistaken; a full analysis of the game is being conducted, and no one intends to turn a blind eye to violations (unless the opponent himself objects).

The opponent surrendered an empty minor respawn point. I aimed at the grass – Enova appeared with a full load of resources. I went to the dungeon along a circular route for 4 days and let the computer get stuck in a citadel with archers. We removed 80 skeletons, but there are still 2 consulates. From the overview, I can see a sandy treasure zone and 2 hives on a dirt road, but I prefer to look for luck in the Rampart treasure zone - a small Inferno zone with Dragon Utopia, which isn’t manageable yet. I made a borderline decision to attack Thunderbirds with 10 lords: stats 14, 7, 7, 7, expert earth. Everything was going well; I destroyed 2 stacks, and Wave of Death took away 7 units per round, but when Oil Slick wore off, I didn't account for the fact that the birds had moved forward, so I got exposed and received damage from all stacks in one round. After that, there were ordinary battles and many interesting things, but history remains silent about them. TFH.
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9 years ago
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The whole point is that if you don't establish a clear distinction between "significant" and "insignificant" violations with unambiguous criteria for both, there will always be endless arguments, as there are as many opinions as there are people. And making such a distinction is impossible, and therefore, any violation is simply a violation, and that's it. Yes, sometimes it may seem absurd and inhumane, but at least it's clear and unambiguous, without subjective opinions, so to speak.
In reply to =Lizard=
9 years ago
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=Lizard=
The whole point is that if you don't create a clear distinction between "significant" and "insignificant" violations with unconditional criteria for both, there will always be endless arguments, as there are as many opinions as there are people. And it's impossible to make such a distinction, and therefore, any violation is simply a violation, and that's it. Yes, sometimes it seems absurd and inhumane, but at least it's clear and unambiguous, without subjective opinions, so to speak.
Kostya, since we're talking about violations and how they can't be separated.
Is an unfounded accusation of maphacking not a violation of the fair play and mutual respect clause? And what punishment did Hellight receive for this? I only see that he ended up in the positive.
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9 years ago
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Since so many suggestions have been made, I can definitely play another decisive game with Tofsl if he wishes.
In reply to HellLighT
9 years ago
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HellLighT
Since so many suggestions have been made, I can definitely play another decisive game with Tofsl if he wishes.
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In reply to Samurai
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9 years ago
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By registering for the tournament, you agree to the rules, so what's the problem? The judge is always right.
In reply to HellLighT
9 years ago
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HellLighT
Since so many suggestions have been made, I can definitely play another decisive game with Tofsl if he wishes.

A generous offer that it would be illogical to refuse, okay.
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9 years ago
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That’s perfect!
9 years ago
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I wish you fair play, and may the strongest player win.
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9 years ago
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Andres blu (Conflux Moner Moner) def Javdet red (Fortress Broh Broh) 123 8mm6a

Sold everything for 3K, wanting to play using birds, and I succeeded. The only issue was that the respawn was huge, and I never found the ore mine on it, resulting in missing 1 building and the birds got stuck in the fort. Additionally, two water and earth dwellings were found and captured. Long roads to nowhere and into blocks. On the first turn I didn't get out of the adjacent zones, but even there I found 2 Griffin Conservatories, 3 Hives, and 2 Dragon Utopias. In short, the plan for the game was simple and obvious, but on 123 came news of surrender. The opponent forgot to set citadel, a leveled-up computer came and justified it.
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9 years ago
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Andres blu (Conflux Moner Moner) def Javdet red (Fortress Broh Broh) 123 8mm6a

Sold everything for 3K, hoping to play through birds and I succeeded, the only thing was that the respawn was huge and I never found the ore mine there, as a result I missed 1 building and the birds were stuck in the fort. Additionally, water and earth dwellings were found and taken. Long roads to nowhere and into blocks. I didn't get out of the adjacent zones on the first one, but even there I found 2 Griffin Conservatories, 3 Hives, and 2 Dragon Utopias. In general, the plan for the game was simple and obvious, but on 123 news of a capitulation arrives. The opponent forgot to set up a citadel, a fully leveled computer came and justified it.
Nothing to add, except that he forgot not only about the citadel. He forgot about the insane leveling of the computers. He thought he could hunker down like in SoD.

Thanks for the game
In reply to Javdet
9 years ago
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Mee (Rampart, Kirr, Kirr) +10500 def Papik (Necropolis, Galtran, Galtran), 131, Jebus

At the auction, I get the maximum bid, keep the red Rampart, and end up with a lot of money. Then, a chain of events unfolds:

111 outside Elves -> 112 box with 40 Elves and Dwell Dragons -> 113-114, 4 boxes with 30k experience and 10k gold, I get Expert Air and Expert Pathfinder -> 115 Consulate (2) and 3 Hives (16) -> 116, I break the Goblin Camp 10-19 gray without losses, using mass haste and with 3900 movement -> by 124, I control the center -> from 126, I start taking over Necropolis lands, managing to grab a Consulate (1), a Hive (4), and a Utopia there -> 131, I see Galtran one tile away in the fog, I can reach him with flight and ranged attack, and I also grab a Well along the way; in the final, I have an advantage in stats, magic, and army.

Thank you for the game.

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