Satellite Tournament #1 for CIS 2017, Volgograd.

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Alexxl

3/2/2017 6:51 AM UTC

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Good day to all forum members!

We present to your attention the "satellite" tournament, with the main prize being a paid package for a trip to Volgograd to participate in CIS 2017.
The above-mentioned package includes:
Accommodation: from 05/06/2017 to 05/13/2017 in a standard room, 15,000 rubles (breakfast included)
Festive banquet: 2,500 rubles
Contribution to the prize pool: 3,000 rubles
Total cost of the package: 20,500 rubles

Detailed information about the CIS 2017 tournament:
/topic/12277/
/topic/12281/

Attention:
This package cannot be transferred to third parties or converted into cash. If the winner of this tournament refuses to travel, the buy-in is returned to the winner, and the value of the package is added to the prize pool.

TOURNAMENT #1 OLD SCHOOL STYLE

I suggest that we all remember our youth together; the tournament will take place on FIXED MAPS!!! According to the rules for fixed maps.
Only hardcore, only OLD SCHOOL)))

The regulations and rules will be added later.

Registration will open on 03/02/2017

Time limit for each game: 3 days!!!

Number of participants: 16 people

PARTICIPATION FEE: 1,300 rubles

List of participants:
1. =Lizard= Buy-in not paid
2. Horn Buy-in not paid
3. Toganash Buy-in not paid

You must register in this thread, indicating your nickname and Skype.

Payment of the entry fee is accepted only by transferring funds to a Sberbank card.

Please transfer the buy-in to my SBERBANK card No. 5336 6900 4915 3705, Kulakov Alexander Alexandrovich; please indicate who made the payment in the comments.

Don't miss your chance to get to the main Heroes event of the year for just 1,300 rubles!!!

Приглашаю всех сыграть Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft, мой батлтэг Alexxl#2103, кидайте приглашение, рад буду перекинуться в картишки))

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Dirty_Player

3/3/2017 10:50 PM UTC

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Horn

In this regard, I don't understand Kostin's choice.

Well, I was asked to choose, and I chose. :smile44: I'm not very knowledgeable about fixes, so let the participants decide what they want to play. Or let someone who really knows about it make the selection. As far as I'm concerned, I'm out.

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Grando

3/3/2017 11:10 PM UTC

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I might be getting ahead of myself, but based on what Horn wrote, I would seriously consider giving him the right to choose any fixes he wants.
Even at the last minute.
It would still be better than having the old-timers endlessly rehash the same old "desert war."
They could open it up for an hour or two, think about it, come up with something, and then move on. It's the same thing that Expert described so nicely in response to my aggression (baiting for the smartest ideas). And in my opinion, that's exactly what should happen. They open the fix, look at it, think about it, assess the pace, and then move on.
(It doesn't matter that I wrote something different a few posts ago; new ideas come up as things progress, and anyway, it doesn't seem like anyone else besides Lizard has signed up :D )

https://www.twitch.tv/grando__

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Toganash

3/3/2017 11:59 PM UTC

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Please register me for the tournament.

ICQ: 564224919

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Wicc

3/4/2017 6:06 AM UTC

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Regarding the "grinding" of fixed strategies – this applies to maps where there is only one sensible development plan, and where the map's resistance is low, allowing this plan to be implemented regardless of the initial hand. Yes, there are many such fixed strategies; I would even say that they are the majority. But there are also more variable fixed strategies, where both the plan and its implementation depend on the initial hand.

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KobRa_RR

3/4/2017 12:58 PM UTC

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So, definitely don't use my favorite boomerang map for your own purposes. :)
Desert War has been played for 100 years, and it still doesn't get boring.
And Challenge Mode is a real treasure trove.

Just three maps are too few for a full-fledged tournament: I would also add LoM, Hourglass 2, Danger Zone, and FFT.

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Wicc

3/4/2017 1:21 PM UTC

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KobRa_RR

Three maps are simply not enough for a full-fledged tournament: I would also add LoM, Hourglass 2, Danger Zone, FFT.

Quite the opposite – the more maps, the less chance of gathering a quorum. They all need to be studied, and that's very tedious.

I'm thinking about holding a fix tournament on Hot, and I haven't even considered making it on more than one map. Presumably, it will be a remake of Pirates of the Caribbean.

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iDD

3/4/2017 2:13 PM UTC

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Wicc

Quite the opposite – the more maps there are, the less chance there is of gathering a quorum. They all need to be studied, and that's very tedious.

I'm thinking about holding a fix tournament on HotA, and I didn't even consider making it more than one map. Presumably, it will be a remake of Pirates of the Caribbean.

Won't you get exhausted, little one?
And remotely with Korolev, and a tournament on fix maps?
P.S. Drama club, photography club, I also want to sing. Everyone voted for an art club.

Коротко о себе: спесивый сноб
Чуть длиннее: Фонд Дендроидов
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На ощупь пьют эльфийские стрелки!
Нам это идеально подходит (c)
Это вам не шутки - нажрался Дуст в маршрутке! (с)
Пишите на udd@otso.city
Твиттер СНГ

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Dirty_Player

3/4/2017 5:26 PM UTC

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Again, what is the goal of the tournament? To attract the maximum number of participants so that the tournament actually takes place, or to please the old-school players?

KobRa_RR

Just three maps are not enough for a full-fledged tournament:

Honestly, I was going to suggest only one DesertWar map, but I feel like I would be bombarded with criticism. :smile03:
I'm just thinking from the perspective of a newbie random player who suddenly wants to jump into the competitive scene. If there's only one map, it's okay, I'll study it, play a few games, and I'll be ready. If there's a pool of three simple maps, it's okay, I'll take a look, I'll think about it. If there's a pool of more than 5 complex maps, like LoM and others, which all need to be studied (and preferably practiced), and then pay money and play against Horn or Expert - no thanks. Hence the logic behind the map selection. I am convinced that the strategy of "looking at a map in the editor for an hour and then playing" in 2017 does not work for competitive play.

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Wicc

3/4/2017 5:51 PM UTC

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Yeah. DesertWar is the only right choice.

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Albert@s

3/4/2017 6:40 PM UTC

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and if you watch Chinese players in the Desert War, can you win by executing moves just as effectively? I watched a couple of times – how Sticky played – he lost to a Chinese player. I remember there was a Dragon with expert air (mass haste). The game was about 7-8 years ago. Even Haliavshchik Merlin commented on that game.

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MerlinTheMagician

3/4/2017 7:47 PM UTC

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Albert@s

Even Merlin, a freeloader, commented on that game.

Ah... You shouldn't be responding... But I have a couple of free minutes, and the topics have become a bit boring...
Could you provide a link to the report? Just to refresh my memory...

And regarding freeloading - do I understand correctly that you consider anyone who travels to the CIS region not at their own expense, but at the expense of another person or persons, to be a freeloader? :smile13:

Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP

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Albert@s

3/4/2017 8:02 PM UTC

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MerlinTheMagician

Ah... You probably shouldn't be answering... But I have a couple of free minutes, and the topics have become a bit boring...
Could you provide a link to the report? Just to refresh my memory...

And regarding freebies - do I understand correctly that you consider anyone who travels to the CIS region not at their own expense, but at the expense of another person or persons, to be a freeloader? :smile13:

Fiorentina didn't score in their home game in the Europa League... CSKA-Zenit - both teams failed to score... What's with you, are you getting worked up? Remember, you commented on the Stiki game a long time ago... and you freaked out (I was rooting for our team) when the Chinese player did a mass haste with a Dragon!)

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MerlinTheMagician

3/4/2017 8:14 PM UTC

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When you talk, Ivan Vasilievich, it seems like you're rambling... (with a sigh)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGsHshpYkiU

Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP

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Albert@s

3/4/2017 8:20 PM UTC

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MerlinTheMagician

When you talk, Ivan Vasilievich, it gives the impression that you are delirious... (c)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGsHshpYkiU

upload the video) and I seem to trust my memory - undo the spell! You commented on the Stiki game with a Chinese player - (I indicated the timeframe for this game above). Come on, come on - gather your thoughts. What will SF say...?

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MerlinTheMagician

3/4/2017 8:43 PM UTC

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Albert@s

What will SF say...

But what difference does it make what Stiky says? What matters is what you say and what data you use...
Frankly, I don't remember commenting on a fix between Stiky and the "Chinese guy" 7-8 years ago.
7 years ago was 2010, and 8 years ago was 2009... (Ah... those were the good old days... the streams were simply amazing...) That's why I asked for a link. I'm curious myself.

And what about the freeloaders? You didn't answer that.

Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP