Posts from CIS Qualifier for King’s Bounty 2017.

Vigo! Vigo! Vigo! :smile44:

Vigo! Vigo! Vigo! :smile44:

You owe me a 3x3k.

You owe me 3x3k.

You owe me too. For the quote.

Perhaps Vigo, after a hard day's work, simply passed out and will catch up on the news tomorrow?

It seems Vigo, after a hard day's work, just passed out and will catch up on the news tomorrow?

Are you worried that you won't have time to buy a ticket for the CIS region? ;)

Hello everyone! Please, let's keep things civil. I'm facing some serious issues in real life right now, and I can't go into detail. I've asked Nikita to take care of the overall plan and outline the main points. You all said to post it and then we'll make adjustments. I'm only communicating with the team by phone right now; I can't physically get there yet. The conferences will be available to us 24/7, and we'll have a clear picture of the online situation today. We've called in the system administrator to explain everything to me. The question of additional discounts is still open, and I'll know for sure as soon as I get there, although I'll try to resolve it over the phone today and let you know. But honestly, how much cheaper do you want it to be?! Are you trying to get everything for next to nothing? If everyone is trying to start a fight, maybe it's better to shut it all down now? Instead of understanding the situation and helping (I'm talking to the people from Moscow), this is turning into a mess. What kind of positive atmosphere will there be at our event then? (((
Until there's an official vote and the Community hasn't made a decision, this proposal is just a rough draft, and we're gradually filling it in by discussing everything with you. At any moment, if the majority is not satisfied with something, we can simply remove the topic and move on to another city. What's the problem?
I remind you that this topic was created to discuss the Korolev option and make adjustments to it. So let's discuss and make adjustments, instead of throwing mud at each other! Or, if there are too many dissatisfied people, I ask the moderators to delete the topic altogether and forget about it. Otherwise, I might end up being blamed for starting the fight. Either we decide and do it, or we forget about it and delete it; I'll somehow survive the embarrassment

Since there is no official vote and the community has not made a decision, this application is still very raw, and we are gradually filling it out by discussing everything with you.

But fish spoils quickly, and you've already delayed it. If you don't have time to work on it due to real-life problems, don't make promises and prepare for next year.

I just spoke with the base administration; they have a dedicated 100 Mbps internet connection for the entire building, with Wi-Fi. Technically, is it possible to run a cable from their server and set up our router in the conference room? I'm just not an expert in this. Regarding additional discounts, it seems to be a different story. To get an even better discount, we need to provide a complete application with the number of people, room types, conference details, and catering arrangements. After that, they'll tell us how much more they can reduce the price. So, it's probably wiser to start with the prices on the website and then submit our application to them. They'll provide the final quote. It definitely won't be more expensive! Added 6 minutes later

Vitya, fish spoils quickly, and you've already delayed things enough. If you don't have time to deal with this due to real-life problems, don't push it and start preparing for next year.

Sanya, that's exactly what I wrote! If it's not possible, then it's not possible, and no one needs any drama. This was just a discussion. The moderators will come and delete everything related to Korolev, and we'll move on to Volgograd or Yekaterinburg! For me, this isn't a perfect solution; I've already explained why. It would be easier for me to travel somewhere if I could and not have to worry about anything, but instead just relax. I wanted to bring up this topic because there hasn't been a CIS event in the Moscow region yet, and the prices and travel distance to other cities might be a problem for some. If it's not possible, then it's not possible

Vitya, ask what kind of discount they can offer for a group of 40 people, for example:
- Approximately 20 people in standard double rooms
- Approximately 20 people in standard quadruple rooms
This will give us an idea of the price range, and we can adjust it later.
Then, ask about the conditions for renting the conference hall for six days. It shouldn't be an hourly rate. I think they should agree to a daily rate of 7-8 thousand.
In Yekaterinburg, we even got the hall as a bonus for a large order.
Plus, they'll also have to provide catering.

Hello everyone! Speaking for myself (Merlin, I hope that's okay? Because judging by the poll in the neighboring thread, my vote seems to be worth nothing): I would gladly participate in the CIS tournament in Korolev, because I have the physical and financial means to participate only in this city out of the ones mentioned. A flight to Volgograd from Minsk is too expensive (I'm saying this as someone who often travels with low-cost airlines in Europe, and I wouldn't be willing to pay that much for a ticket to Volgograd, and neither would my wife), and traveling via Moscow is too complicated. I'm not even talking about the price of the participation itself, which was all described above. And arguing against the advantageous geographical location of Korolev for the majority is pointless. I tried to understand the numerous posts by Merlin, who so vehemently, to put it mildly, dismissed this city. But something tells me that if this person were interested in the opposite, he would have found another 1000 reasons to consider the application from Korolev as well. However, why he isn't interested is another question. And if the trip to Volgograd wasn't paid for, would he go at his own expense? Also, it wasn't very pleasant to read Alex's posts (who initially gave the impression of being a very intelligent and reasonable person) at the beginning of this thread, about scamming and the like. Regarding buying tickets three months in advance, I don't know how it works with flights in Russia (maybe there's a different pattern here), but the cheapest tickets are usually available one and a half to two months in advance, when there are the most offers from various airlines, because not all of them release tickets three months in advance. Correct me if I'm wrong. Well, in any case, wherever this CIS tournament takes place, I wish the organizers good luck and patience, and more participants! Peace to all!

Hello everyone! Speaking for myself (Merlin, I hope that's okay? Because judging by the poll in the neighboring thread, my vote seems to be worth nothing): I would gladly participate in the CIS tournament in Korolev, because I have the physical and financial means to participate only in this city out of the ones mentioned. A flight to Volgograd from Minsk is too expensive (I say this as someone who often travels on budget airlines in Europe, and I wouldn't be willing to pay that much for a ticket to Volgograd, and neither would my wife). And traveling with connections through Moscow is also too expensive. I'm not even talking about the price of the participation itself, which was described above. And arguing about the favorable geographical location of Korolev for the majority is pointless.
I also tried to understand the numerous posts by Merlin, who, to put it mildly, vehemently dismissed this city. But something tells me that if this person were interested in the opposite, he would have found another 1000 reasons to consider Korolev's application as well. However, why he isn't interested is another question. And if the trip to Volgograd wasn't paid for, would he go at his own expense?..
Also, it wasn't very pleasant to read Alex's posts (who initially gave the impression of being a very intelligent and reasonable person) at the beginning of this thread, about scamming people and so on.
Regarding buying tickets three months in advance, I don't know how it is with flights in Russia (maybe there's a different situation here), but the cheapest tickets are usually available one and a half to two months in advance, when there are the most offers from various airlines, because not all airlines offer tickets three months in advance. Correct me if I'm wrong.
And in any case, wherever this CIS tournament takes place, I wish the organizers good luck and patience, and more participants! Peace to everyone!

Good post, and as for my statements, it's just that I've been holding it in for a while, and then the silence broke....
And by the way, I traveled with my wife from Volgograd to Minsk for the CIS-2014 tournament))) and the trip was great!!!

I don't like it when people try to see me as a LOSER...
if everyone else doesn't care, then I don't want to and won't be part of the crowd, and I won't fall for any crap...
Bye everyone))) screw you all!!!

I agree.
I'm tired of this circus. When did I start campaigning against Korolev (and not against Ekb – look and find where and how I campaigned against them before the end of the voting? On my part, there was only a brief analysis of the pros and cons of the applications) – the voting was already over, and if we calculate the result according to any of the proposed systems for counting votes from "qualified" voters – Volgograd is in the lead.
There wasn't even an actual application from Korolev, just as there isn't one now and won't be.

P.S. Please excuse Comrade Vigo in advance; he got up at 5 am today so that he could make it to work and get to the hotel to give us some new, more specific information.

For now, I can only communicate with the team by phone; I can't physically break away yet (.

Oh. Am I the only one who sees this?.. The person got up at five in the morning to drive to the hotel and talk on the phone?
"Organizers" decided from the very beginning to mislead the public...
No one went anywhere - and nothing was agreed upon.

Otherwise, I might end up being blamed for everything.

Lol, but who's fault is it? You jumped in when the voting was already over and the results were announced. And you voted yourself. And the next day, you decided – let me try to lure in suckers who will do everything for me. And lure in suckers who will bring me their money. If it doesn't work out, I'll quickly back off, as usual... Because it's so convenient – if anything happens, then it was all the people's decision... But the fact that the people ALREADY made a decision somehow didn't bother you...

Well, the fact that young people are silent – I assume that they may not be aware of what's going on. But what about the veterans? The old guard? Especially those from AK?... They're all sitting quietly, waiting for this farce to reach its finale...

I guess I'll have to remind everyone who is who.
Many thanks to the AK team five years ago, especially Pit for LM, numOne, Dirty Player. You did an excellent job - and showed the highest level of professionalism in gathering information and analyzing it.

And for those who have forgotten this, I'll remind them. Five years ago, Vigo, after being rightfully added to the Black List, decided to flex his muscles. And he created a thread himself. There are many words and pages there, but if you seriously consider Korolev with this organizing team, read it, and you will find happiness in the form of understanding. /topic/10050/ (and if we look at who voted then that Vigo was unfairly offended, even though there were so many obvious facts - we might be surprised... or maybe not...)

Here, I will mention something directly related to tournament organization.
In 2007, Sir Vigo organized his own tournament. It took place on the friendly resource HeroesPortal. The tournament ended. And the prizes for it were paid out by the Portal administration – Catch and Sir Gorbik – some time later (more than a year).
But they were supposed to be paid out by Sir Vigo.

Sir Gorbik.
Added: October 27, 2008 08:31
As it turns out, the obligations regarding this tournament have still not been fulfilled. Well, consider me personally scammed for 1000 USD. Thank you to the members of the team who will help resolve this issue.
Sir Vigo's account is blocked. Write to me; I will urgently pay out the prizes.
Sorry for the delay.
I hope for your understanding.
http://heroesportal.net/tavern/?id=216198&pagenum=12

Comment from Sir Gorbik dated December 6, 2012:
"On my part, he is banned only because he promised a tournament with a prize fund of 1000 USD,
for which he has not yet settled up.
The Portal and the players settled up for him."

Comment from Sir Gorbik dated February 7, 2017
"It was always me who paid :)
I advise taking only an advance payment from him. And yes, let's finally be friends and exchange informational news. And if you also duplicate reports about tournaments (everything is automated), it will be paradise."

Ten years have passed. And Vigo still hasn't settled up with the Portal for that tournament.

A comment from Redwhait, one of Vigo's friends who voted for him back then, dated December 8, 2012:
"He either has a conscience or he doesn't, but you decided to ban him for it. You can put a black mark on him as an organizer, but banning him as a player is nonsense."
/topic/at/628954/

Alex, don't get upset; Hiwanna and I were just making this table yesterday as a draft for reference; hopefully, Vigo will explain everything in detail there, and we'll see what and how.

And now, Reddi is here too... our friend is everywhere... "He either has a conscience or he doesn't" - I suggest engraving these words on the CIS Cup 2017.

So, sitting around, laughing, playing billiards with Vigo – that's fine; he's a friendly and very funny guy – he's provided plenty of reasons to laugh over the years.
But having any financial-organizational relationship with him?.. Asm, are you serious? Didn't you catch him yourself at one time with a video recording about Mikogo and opening a save file?... And now you're actively supporting him... Although they already told you in plain language that no one went anywhere and nothing was agreed upon, and that he won't be doing it...
If you want not to see the prize fund in another 10 years, create 10 new polls and vote for this application.

I am surprised that when such posts appear:

All objective factors (that come to my mind) are in his favor:
- Moscow hasn't hosted the CIS before (the principle of different locations)
- location on the map of the CIS, ease of access (transport hub and all that)
- city size and entertainment prospects (it is practically Moscow)
- approximate price
- personality of the organizer.
Even as a person who wants (based on his own ideas), everything to be good in the hero community, I would like this option to at least get a real chance.

everyone remains silent... The organizer's personality is indeed an objective factor FOR... (for not taking the application seriously).

In general, please AlexXL and Freesha make a firm decision.

Thank you for your attention.

you can talk and write to yourself as much as you want. Your opinion is just your opinion. If Volgograd is doing you a favor, you don't have the right to spread negativity about those who pay their money for the choice. It's not up to you, my friend!
Yesterday, I was thinking – did you happen to reserve a spot on Mamayev Kurgan for yourself? Please explain to me – who paid Merlin for such a dirty, anti-(Khaitsepetov) attitude towards other candidates, besides Volgograd?

Forward, my minions! We need more crap! :D :D :D

yes... and didn't I understand correctly that yesterday the organizer from Volgograd withdrew the application, saying goodbye to everyone?
Was I the only one who read that there is no mobile connection at the base, and the food is terrible? And that the accommodation prices are calculated including all holidays and weekends - with a discount of zero rubles and zero kopecks?
Of course, it's up to people to decide. In Vigo, you'll obviously spill another bucket of garbage (I don't understand why he doesn't shut up), but I can tell you right away - if they choose Volgograd, I won't go there. As someone wrote above, I'm not a fool to be ripped off for my own money.