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Am I correct in understanding that the application from Korolev was published by a random person, and tomorrow it might turn out to be a fake?
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Alex, don't get upset. Hivanna and I were just making this table yesterday as a draft for reference. Hopefully, Vigo will provide more details, and we'll see what and how.

I don't like it when people try to see me as a LOSER...
If everyone else doesn't care, then I don't want to and won't be part of the crowd, and I won't fall for any nonsense.
Bye everyone))) screw you all!!!
Приглашаю всех сыграть Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft, мой батлтэг Alexxl#2103, кидайте приглашение, рад буду перекинуться в картишки))
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MerlinTheMagician
Explain it to me. Who paid for such an obvious, blatant, and utterly dirty "anti-Volgograd lobby" for Bertvolge?
And who paid you for the anti-Yekaterinburg/Korolev campaign?))
Alexxl
I have a feeling that you are both in on it (Bert, Mee). I am telling you clearly, the hotel itself offers a 15% discount to anyone who wants it, but your friends, the organizers, are selling it without taking this into account. You are being ripped off even before you leave your house, and who knows what will happen next.
Alex, I didn't expect such unfounded accusations from you. I don't think Bert, and certainly not I, need to squeeze a couple of thousand rubles from someone.))) And how does this scheme even look? Vigo contacts us and says that Korolev has this scheme, you can make 1-2 thousand rubles per visitor, you can lobby for Korolev, and I will share it with you? At the same time, there are several other people involved, and your share will be 5 thousand rubles per person))) And we, along with Bert, thought, "Wow, there's money to be made!" and started writing a bunch of posts. It's funny, isn't it?
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I'd like to clarify a few things.
Regarding Merlin's post, I'll address each point directly, as I found the most inaccuracies and justified criticism in my part of the work.

1. Composition of the organizers, responsibility for execution.
It seems I am an Organizer's assistant. Vigo is the main organizer; all questions regarding who, what, and why should be directed to him.
I was tasked with creating a minimal package for accommodation that closely reflects real-world conditions, as well as outlining other possible services offered by the hotel in Korolev. As you correctly noted, I don't have experience with CIS events, so I will naturally listen to the opinions of more experienced players who have attended other similar events and are aware of some potential pitfalls. Fortunately, the organizers, including myself, still have some time while the official voting is ongoing.
All possible suggestions and wishes will, of course, be taken into account.

2. Regarding the conference hall.
a) I admit my mistake; I didn't think it through properly. Of course, the conference hall can be rented around the clock. If we translate this into a monetary equivalent, the total cost will be 2362 rubles, instead of the initially stated 1137 rubles. I will update all the information, including the price, within five minutes.
b) The conference hall we are considering renting can accommodate approximately 300 people. In my opinion, this means there will be enough space for drinking, poker, and playing Heroes. If my assumptions are far from the truth, please correct me. Of course, it is possible to rent two conference halls without any problems; it will just be a slightly different price. So, if the majority of experienced CIS players decide that this is what we should do, we will do it.
c) All statistics regarding the technical specifications and discounts negotiated by Vigo for the conference hall will be available tomorrow, most likely from Vigo himself. We believe in his diplomatic skills and are waiting for his success.

3. Regarding the date of the tournament's completion:
If you want to depart on the 13th, we will depart on the 13th. This is a solvable issue. Again, in my opinion, after the final, the evening closing ceremony, and a final party, it would be good to get some rest, gather our belongings, say goodbye, and leave. We can move it forward by one day; we will simply adjust the schedule slightly.

4. Regarding the organization of airport and train station pickups:
I can't say anything about organizing pickups; everyone arrives at different times, tired after their flights. It probably wouldn't be very nice to make some people wait for several hours while others arrive, and then take everyone to the hotel together. We are all adults and can call a taxi or take a bus to get to the hotel ourselves. If anyone needs a taxi, we will arrange it.
I will post the most affordable and convenient ways to get there later, with time and cost information linked to Yandex/Google Maps, so everyone can get their bearings.
The issue is more relevant for the 13th – we will all be checking out of the hotel together, and it would be better for most people to get to the city, at least, by a pre-booked bus. This is a more realistic prospect, and if it interests the public again, the organizers are ready to take care of it.

5. Regarding the behavior of the staff and administration of the establishment:
I haven't spoken to these people face-to-face, so I can't guarantee their integrity.
I plan to visit Korolev towards the end of the week to see the rooms, karaoke, conference hall, sauna, etc., in person. I will try to create a photo report and attach it to this thread, along with my personal conclusions after talking to these people, if you are interested.

Even though I'm at work, I will try to answer your other questions as quickly as possible.
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Hiwanna
Even though I'm at work, I'll try to answer your other questions as quickly as possible.
Thank you very much for the answers.

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Mee
and who are you voting for against Ekb/Korolev?))
You idiot?
The Ekb vs. Vlg vote has already taken place. And Vlg won - even if the results are recalculated using the methods proposed later.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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You’re lucky Roma deleted your post.
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Albert@s
You're lucky Roma deleted your post.
Let's see if he deletes "Discussion about CIS-2015" too :D
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Чуть длиннее: Фонд Дендроидов
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Нам это идеально подходит (c)
Это вам не шутки - нажрался Дуст в маршрутке! (с)
Пишите на udd@otso.city
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Kirill, stop spamming.
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In general, Romantic started a separate thread on the topic. Read it if you're interested; it contains Bertvolg's posts about "Discussion of CIS-2015." And draw your own conclusions.
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I will just quote one post here.
Albert@s
Hello everyone!
Let me start in order. The recreation center has been booked – the contract is signed, and a deposit has been made. We have indicated that we expect around 40 people. The final terms from the administration are: one day (weekday) of accommodation as a gift for all guests, a mandatory banquet for each guest totaling 2300 rubles (excluding alcohol), rental of the conference hall at 25,000 rubles per day for 7 calendar days. Breakfast is free (buffet style); they insist on ordering a set meal (lunch 400 + dinner 350 rubles). It is necessary to indicate the number of attendees 10-14 days before the event. Now, let's go into more detail.
1) Accommodation: What are the advantages?
a) The recreation center is located 15-20 minutes away from the city center in a picturesque location near the Volga River.
b) A 15-20 minute ride costs 350 rubles for four people by taxi (100 rubles per person) to any place you want to visit in the city center.
c) The grounds are well-maintained, clean, beautiful, cozy, and the interior design of the rooms is top-notch.
d) There is an outdoor swimming pool (large), which will be filled towards the end of April, and there are football, volleyball, and tennis courts available for free.
e) Each guest has access to a one-hour daily pass to use the indoor swimming pool, sauna, and hammam – the level of service and comfort is simply amazing (in a good way).
f) We have our own separate conference hall, plus a free night bar nearby (drinks are extra); they will provide us with comfortable tables and chairs, and we won't be disturbed. There is also a free projector, karaoke, and sound system.
g) Currently, work is being done at the facility to improve the Internet service. This work will be completed within 2 weeks (maximum).
They promised that we will have decent internet; I will let you know what happens. In any case, this issue must be resolved because the internet provider at the facility is my business partner – I buy internet from him myself. I think it is technically possible to increase the bandwidth for us for a week, so the internet issue is removed from the agenda.
The vacation turns out to be luxurious – there's no point in pretending otherwise – you just need to see it all with your own eyes, especially in May when, as my favorite Anna German sings, "the gardens bloom!"
And we get one day of accommodation (weekday) for free.
What are the disadvantages?
If there are advantages, then there must also be disadvantages, but this is more difficult.
a) Mandatory banquet: This is a condition set by the administration – ordering a banquet with a minimum bill of 2300 rubles per person without alcohol (you bring your own), or any amount with their alcohol (the cheapest vodka costs 800 rubles there). To be honest, I don't see any downsides to this event – 2300 rubles isn't that much money these days, and besides, they won't take it away from us – we'll all spend it together in an amazing restaurant with fantastic snacks and a great group of participants! (We can order our own menu – dishes from all over the world, sturgeon species of fish, game – whatever you like and can afford).
However, that's not the main thing. The essence is that ordering the banquet allows us to completely resolve the issue of bringing our own alcohol to the facility. Yes, we will drink heavily. But we'll bring our own (although I'm not discouraging you from using the bars if you want). The only condition is that our alcohol will be stored in the restaurant (and will be brought to us upon request). Moreover, Sasha and I have arranged for draft beer at the restaurant – every day there will be fresh beer of the varieties we are interested in (we have experience in this area; just trust us), with minimal markup! To close the topic, the concept of staying at this facility does not involve drinking and eating anywhere (but we can do it) – think of Turkey or Egypt: you cannot drink and eat in your room, only in designated areas – I think everyone understands.
b) Set meal:
400 rubles for lunch, 350 rubles for dinner – the lady turned out to be very persistent (I don't blame her for that). There is a varied menu without repetition on the board; those who are used to eating tasty food on a schedule will find this to be a reliable and good option. As mentioned above, you need to indicate the number of people who want it about 10 days in advance. We will order it; for those who don't want it, we will try to ensure that it isn't mandatory for everyone. I don't think this will be a big problem; it's a very reliable and tasty option, and as for vitamins... well, you know!
c) Conference hall: 25K per day.
It's expensive. However, given the price of 3500 per hour, the number of attendees, and round-the-clock operation... they almost poked our eyes out, threatened to leave, Sasha fainted four times... What there is, there is – we can't back down now.
Let's summarize.
"Saving drowning men is up to the drowning men themselves!"
We have prices, discounts have been announced – personally, I see everything in a positive light – they didn't raise the prices for us, and they won't anymore – what else do we need? We will work with what we have, thinking and trying to improve even the already attractive aspects of the event. Personally, I would add that yes, perhaps it might have been possible to find cheaper options for recreation, but look at the number of advantages we have! What could we theoretically save? 2K rubles per participant? It would have been too risky to take such a small amount into account. The more people we get, the cheaper the rental of the hall will be for us – I think everyone understands this. Right now, it costs us about 625 per person per day? Is that expensive? I don't think so. So, let's study, provide feedback, make suggestions, and continue working!"

This brings us to the issue of lobbying... In 2015, 625 per person per day for the hall did not seem like a lot of money to him...
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
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If you drop the microphone,
Know that it's a paid one for the organizers,
Quickly get three thousand
And put it on the phone.
Коротко о себе: спесивый сноб
Чуть длиннее: Фонд Дендроидов
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На ощупь пьют эльфийские стрелки!
Нам это идеально подходит (c)
Это вам не шутки - нажрался Дуст в маршрутке! (с)
Пишите на udd@otso.city
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Merlin, please sit in the ice bucket already!
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I told you – stop fooling around. Those 5,000 I was going to send you (and that’s money that Vova and I will earn if the Korolev application wins) – I won’t give them to you. I’ll buy ice cream for the kids, and you – you’re punished.
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Guys, let's avoid arguments and especially swearing. Otherwise, I'll quickly shut everything down here. )))

P.S. 3 posts of 3000 messages each)
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Guys, let's avoid arguments and especially swearing. Otherwise, I'll quickly shut everything down here.)))

P.S. 3 posts of 3000 messages each)


Are we going to celebrate 10k somehow? :D
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Are we going to celebrate the 10k somehow? :D
You haven't made that prepayment yet.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP

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