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Location for CIS 2017 Heroes III tournament
58 voters
Single choice Public votes Closed 2017-02-05
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Yekaterinburg
37.9% 22 votes
Volgograd
34.5% 20 votes
I’ll go either way; it doesn’t matter which one
1.7% 1 vote
I’m not going to CIS
25.9% 15 votes
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Offline MerlinTheMagician
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Guys, what are you even talking about? About the prices? Or about the fact that the voting took place and Volgograd won that vote? Each application had its pros and cons. Volgograd was more expensive in terms of the initial declared amount – this was not hidden, it was stated directly. Yekaterinburg was lower in price, but also significantly lower in terms of the declared quality of service. Yekaterinburg offered budget options – 5-6 people per room (did you see the panorama of the room? By the way, do you understand that in such accommodation options, there are usually only 1-2 keys per room for these 5-6 people?). And all this is in a standard building of a standard pioneer camp. Volgograd offered budget accommodation with 2.5-3 people per room. At the same time, these are eco-friendly, autonomous cottages. This is what I am evaluating, based on the applications. That is, the information provided by the organizers. Plus what I was able to see online. Honestly, one simple question arose. Of those who voted for Yekaterinburg because of the budget-friendliness of the most economical option, who specifically was ready to live in a room with 5-6 people?
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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Okay, I just checked Egypt, 5 stars, from May 6th to May 13th – all-inclusive – it’s cheaper that way.

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And in Volgograd, were there 10-11 people who were willing to stay?
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And in Volgograd, how many people were willing to live in a room with 10-11 others?
I mean, do you understand the difference between two or three people per room and five or six people per room? That's what the organizers stated.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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And you, explain to a Lizardman, for example, the difference between having 2-3 people in a room, and it’s not just him who needs to understand. The price is determined by the standard rate for two people. Everything else is just an exaggeration.
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Diman, I calculated it – it comes out to 100K for two people for a week (if Merlin isn't sleeping on a cot nearby). And that's without poker.
Did I understand correctly that Bertvolg, with the room price for the entire period being 31K, ended up with a total price of 100K, meaning he added 3K for the conference room, 1800 for the banquet and other services (at 700 per day)??? I swear, I'm calculating half that amount for the event itself for two people... Or did you include 48K worth of booze for yourself? )))
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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Who is willing to pay 11K for accommodation and sleep on a folding bed – didn’t you understand my question?
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Who is willing to pay 11K for accommodation and sleep on a folding bed? Didn't you understand my question?
Are you an idiot? For 12K, you get full accommodation in log cabins. Without extra beds... 2 people per room... You need to have a really bad reading comprehension to not understand that...
And my question is - who is willing to pay 900 rubles/day for accommodation in conditions where you sleep on euro-folding beds? Six people in a room?
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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Or did you include booze for your body in the 48k budget? )))
I'm actually looking at the total cost of this session, and people still need to buy tickets.
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I'm really looking at the total cost of this event, and people still have to buy tickets on top of that.
I'm also really looking at the total cost. And the only price difference for the general public will be based on the different options: accommodation, meals, conference hall. How much more will it cost a person if they're not willing to share a room with five or six other people (are you and your wife willing to do that?), compared to the two-person room option?

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My dear friends, can you explain something to me? Did we have a vote, or didn't we? Did the vote take place, or didn't it? Was a winner determined according to the voting procedure, or wasn't it? It's just a very interesting situation. Yekaterinburg, according to the vote, seems to have lost. Volgograd seems to have won. And then, to our delight, Korolev jumps in. After all the deadlines have been announced (and no objections were raised by the target audience). So, am I right in understanding that Korolev started the "story" of his application by asking for an extension of the application deadline?
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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Just calm down, Vitia is just testing the waters for the future; he won't interfere with the organization this year, at least that's what I believe.
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Was a winner determined by the voting procedure, or was no winner determined?
And who should decide that? We don't have a position like "responsible for the CIS region"... Or do we?
Players/viewers will never reach a consensus, as everyone has different tastes. I believe that the organizers should communicate with each other first and come to an agreement. There is no other way to find a compromise. Otherwise, it will come to the point where the CIS tournament will be held in three places :D. It turns out to be the well-known fable "The Swan, the Crab, and the Pike".

This issue needs to be resolved in the coming days, because there is no need to delay. After that, all topics go into the archive, and we start preparing.
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Just calm down, Vitia is just testing the waters for the future; he won't interfere with the organization this year, at least I believe that.

Actually, it's amusing to watch Merlin's hysteria, who tried in every way to undermine Ekaterinburg (sometimes openly, sometimes subtly), mocked Korolev (saying "submit an application, but when you do, it's already too late"), the points system, and openly supported Volgograd.
I would personally enjoy going to Volgograd if I could, but initially, the goal of the CIS tournament was to have different locations, different cities, and new faces, etc.
Of course, it's great when there are 10+ regular participants with 60+ points, and you can lobby for something based on their desires, but that's not the right approach.
And Merlin is clearly annoyed, and it's quite amusing :D
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Who should decide this? We don't have a position like "responsible for the CIS region"... Or do we?
Players/viewers will never reach a consensus because everyone has different tastes. I think the organizers should communicate with each other first and come to an agreement. There's no other way to find a compromise. Otherwise, it will come to the point where the CIS region will be held in three different places :D. It turns out to be the well-known fable "The Swan, the Crab, and the Pike."

This issue needs to be resolved in the coming days because there's no point in dragging it out. After that, all topics go into the archive, and we start preparing.
Sladysh, that's exactly what I've been saying. There are no responsible parties. There are no regulations. There are no deadlines. There are no criteria. There's no water. There's no vegetation. There are no useful minerals. It's the planet "Shelezyaka"...
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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...There are no responsible parties. There are no regulations. There are no deadlines. There are no criteria. There is no water. There is no vegetation. There are no useful minerals...
The cast is removed, the client leaves, everything is lost, boss! (s):D

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Who should decide this? We don't have a position like "responsible for the CIS region"... Or do we?
Players/viewers will never reach a consensus because everyone has different tastes. I think the organizers should communicate with each other first and come to an agreement. There is no other way to find a compromise. Otherwise, it will come to the point where the CIS tournament will be held in three different locations :D. It turns out to be the well-known fable "The Swan, the Crab, and the Pike."

This issue needs to be resolved in the coming days because there is no point in delaying it. After that, all topics should be archived, and we should start preparing.
Absolutely, +100500, the organizers should decide, mutually and among themselves, and only if there is no agreement among them, then various polls can be used.
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It's actually funny to watch Merlin's hysteria, who in every way opposed Ekaterinburg (sometimes openly, sometimes subtly), mocked Korolev (saying "submit an application," but when they did, it was already too late), the point system, and openly supported Volgograd.
I would personally enjoy going to Volgograd if I had the opportunity, but initially, the goal of the CIS tournament was to have different locations, different cities, new faces, etc.
Of course, it's great when there are 10+ regular participants with 60+ points, and you can lobby for something based on their desires, but that's not right.
Merlin is clearly very upset, and it's amusing :D
+100600 - Merlin's burning frustration inspires many to post)))
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