Posts from Voting for the location of the CIS-2107 tournament.

Well, and the Smeshariki are getting involved too :) There were concerns that no one would take on hosting the event for the CIS this year, but now there's already a competition brewing for the right to do so... ;) :smile23:

Well, the Sylvan faction is causing quite a stir :) There were concerns that no one would take on the CIS region this year, but now there's already a competition brewing for it... ;) :smile23:

Tell me about it... And time is ticking...

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I didn't reread what was written earlier, so if I'm wrong, please correct me. I want to add a few points that I consider important. In my opinion, the choice of location should be based on the following criteria: 1. Accessibility for participants. 2. Level of organization, which includes everything, including a stable internet connection. There won't be any serious attitude towards the CIS community until it's organized primarily for the purpose of socializing, meeting up, and playing poker. Leisure is very important, especially for people who come only to relax, and the organizers' task is to separate these processes so that the latter doesn't overshadow the former. I think that the organizers should first of all take care of the internet and create a качественная трансляция of the games; I myself would be happy to help. It is necessary to prepare the gaming stations in advance, connect the computers to a network with the necessary settings for broadcasting to the hosts' console, from where the stream will be broadcast. I could continue, but I just wanted to highlight how important the CIS aspect is. For example, going to the CIS event to spend time as it was in 2016 (no offense, Zloy) seems like a wasteful use of time and money to me. A stable internet connection, the ability to broadcast (even if only for those who want to, without hosts), separate leisure and championship activities, and offering a cultural program for players outside of the game – I think everyone would benefit from this, and I would be happy to find a way to participate, even if something prevents me. Thank you all!

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Sanya, forgive us, sinners! It's not yet clear how the public will react (people are gradually getting used to not being responsible for their words...votes...actions...which once again proves that it's time for the "old school" to retire). Explain the situation to the owner of the base as it is: Volgograd won the bid, but other players have intervened and are trying to take over (let everyone draw their own conclusions about the purpose of this takeover). Explain to him that the initial price is too high for many (although it is as fair and transparent as possible - and considering the additional privileges, it's practically a bargain; no one bothered to calculate that if you add a free extra bed, the price per person can drop significantly). There are no complaints about the room stock based on the description: with free accommodation for an additional Euro-style folding bed, the price of one "bed space" will decrease significantly. Has everyone forgotten how to count?
Explain that the hall with internet is expensive... (its maintenance essentially comes down to cleaning in the morning, electricity costs, and internet). I don't think there's a queue of people wanting to rent it in Volgograd for the May holidays, especially for 6 days...
But again, the privileges that already exist, considering the level of the establishment, indicate that the owners are much more willing to cooperate and engage in dialogue than at, say, Olympia (a 25% discount on all additional services is actually a VIP-level discount for guests).

And if the owners of the base (and unlike many, I can imagine the level of negotiations - and how much haggling goes on there for each item) say no and tell you to go away, then your conscience as a potential organizer will be clear: you did everything that was required, and even more - considering that you don't owe anyone anything.

(And I will remind the highly respected voting assembly once again: The voting was announced in advance, the voting algorithm was announced in advance, the voting lasted for a WEEK, and everyone who voted essentially gave their word: "I agree with the voting system, I vote for one of the proposed options, and I accept the objective result of the voting as a given." I remind you that there was and still is no application called "Korolev"...)

Sorry for interrupting, but regarding the calculations – I think you need to read more carefully (or maybe I’m just slow and didn’t understand correctly): there are 2 cabins with 4 places each – /topic/at/974221/ + you can also place up to 2 Euro-beds, making a total of 10 places. When calculating the price for the cabins, the number of occupants was taken into account – 10 people (/topic/at/974148/. It seems like this has already been considered, hasn't it?

I apologize for interrupting, but regarding the counting – I think you need to read more carefully (or maybe I’m just not very bright and misunderstood): in the cabins there are 2 blocks with 4 places each – /topic/at/974221/ + you can install up to 2 European-style folding beds, totaling 10 places. When calculating the price for the cabins, the number of people staying was taken into account – 10 people (/topic/at/974148/. It seems that this has already been considered, hasn't it?

The average estimated price is indicated there (that is, the initially stated price by the base owners). For rooms from each category. Also, the average estimated price per room of each category per day in Yekaterinburg is indicated.

So, (usually) 8 people live in the log cabins. The price is stated as final and is for the entire cabin. The price per person is calculated based on the assumption of 10 people. Again, I am simply referring to the posts from which all this follows; if the real information is different, then it is 100% not clearly stated. It would be helpful, for people as clueless as I am, to have this clearly stated, IMHO.

The community won't take the CIS events seriously until they are organized primarily as a way to socialize and meet up to play poker. Leisure is very important, especially for people who come just to relax, and the organizers' task is to separate these processes so that the latter doesn't overshadow the former.

Toga, you're wrong. Where would a serious attitude towards the CIS events come from? This isn't a serious sporting event with significant funding, organized by a sports federation, for which the organizer is accountable to the sports committee. First and foremost, it's a meeting of game fans, where the organizer gets a lot of headaches and expenses out of their own pocket. Everything is funded by the participants and spectators, so it's logical that they want to create maximum comfort for themselves. Therefore, in this situation, making any demands is simply foolish.

It wouldn't hurt to explicitly state this, especially for those as dense as I am, IMHO.

Well, the final table from Ekb based on the base data is provided, and the final table from Vlg based on the base data is also provided – showing the stated price for the number of units. How much clearer can it get?
In Vlg, it seems obvious for the cabins – there's a price for the cabin for the entire period, and there's the number of units we can place in it... In Ekb, there's also a limit on the number of units – and the price...

It's a fairy tale; no one bothered to calculate that if you add a free extra bed, the price per person could drop significantly...).

I wrote about this. It seems they have already calculated the prices with the European-style room arrangements and got a minimum of 9600 for the CIS period in Volgograd and about 8000 in Yekaterinburg (the different levels have already been discussed). + In Yekaterinburg, one more day was announced (6-14 versus 6-13).

in Volgograd, the cost of a standard room for two is 15,500 per person.

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or, as an alternative, it could be slightly cheaper, but you sleep on a folding bed – would many people be willing to reduce the cost in this way?

in Volgograd, the cost of a standard room for two is 15,500.

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or, as an alternative, a little less – but you sleep on a folding bed – how many people would be willing to reduce the price that way?

Bert, you are so vehemently against Volgograd that it seems like you have been banned from entering the city :D

Diman, I calculated – it comes out to 100K for both of them per week (if Merlin isn't lying next to them on the cot). And that's without poker.

Diman, I calculated – it comes out to 100K for two people for a week (if Merlin isn't sleeping next to you on a cot). And that's without poker.

That's exactly why you could consider Cyprus or Greece:D :D