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I support this initiative; a rating system is a good idea, let's implement it.


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I've noticed that in Heroes of Might and Magic V, the report system is now similar to how we currently manage it for Heroes of Might and Magic III.

I think the right step would be to add a system for tournament threads to the forum for Heroes of Might and Magic V, and subsequently, the rating system could be fully automated.

What do you think about this?

It's high time to create a similar system for the fifth game, especially since it has been tested in practice for several years, and there is no need to create anything from scratch. All that is needed is to change the names of the towns, heroes, and templates, and you're good to go. :smile02:

Konstantin, will you explain all the intricacies of this system during our meeting near Gorno-Altaysk?

*description of the tournament theme*

2. Rating calculation formulas.

From November 2007 to February 2009, the rating was calculated according to the formula proposed by SS-D and reset each season.
The Spring 2009 season was calculated using two systems: the old SS-D system and the new one proposed by StickyFingaz. Starting from Summer 2009, the forum voted to switch completely to the new system, which calculates both the seasonal rating (reset at the beginning of the season) and the permanent rating (not reset since March 1, 2009).
"Zero" level is considered to be 1500 rating points, which are given to all players before their first game that is taken into account in the rating.

The rating is calculated as follows:

Let R1 and R2 be the initial ratings of the players.

The coefficients for the difference between player ratings are calculated as follows:
f1=max(-1, min((R1-R2)/400, 1));
f2=max(-1, min((R2-R1)/400, 1));
where min and max are functions that return the minimum and maximum of two numbers.

Points awarded for a win (WP) and loss (LP) are calculated as follows:
WP1=max(1, 16*(1+f1));
WP2=max(1, 16*(1+f2));
LP1=min(-1, 16*(-1+f1));
LP2=min(-1, 16*(-1+f2));

If the first player wins, then
R1->R1+(int)WP2;
R2->R2+(int)LP1;

if the second player wins, then
R1->R1+(int)LP2;
R2->R2+(int)WP1;

if the game ends in a draw, then
R1->R1+(int)((WP2-WP1)/2+0.5);
R2->R2+(int)((WP1-WP2)/2+0.5);

where (int) is a function that returns the integer part of a number.

- for the last 4 tournaments, as Vip.Rus suggested.

Did any constructive ideas emerge regarding the organization of the ranking after the meeting? And, most importantly, is there a desire to implement them?

If not, I am ready to launch the ranking in manual mode according to the specified calculation scheme with the blessing of the Almighty! ;)

After the brainstorming session, no new ideas emerged.
We'll have to launch a poll regarding the starting point for calculating the rating, as well as which formula to use for rating calculation.

In any case, the official rating will be the one that is at least agreed upon with the community, and not by a single member of this forum.

This is simply the height of bureaucracy and backwardness!

For my tournaments, I will maintain a separate "independent" rating based on the results of only my tournaments, and you can do as you please.

very predictable.
It's a pity that there's a schism, even though there wasn't any discussion within the community about the rating.
I don't understand why you're in such a hurry...

Sorry for butting in where I don't belong. But I just can't understand what a rating based on 4 tournaments can show? Especially if only 10 people participate in the tournament. For an objective rating, you need a larger sample size, at least 100 games. Although, of course, nothing prevents calculating a general rating and any other rating in parallel. I don't think the program cares whether it calculates using one formula or two.