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As previously mentioned, the goal of HotA is to move away from all verbal restrictions; all functionality should be implemented programmatically. A significant portion of these restrictions has already been implemented, but some things remain ...

One such unresolved topic is Diplomacy. Many options have been proposed—from tuning numbers to radically changing the functionality. However, the problem with all such ideas is that their effect is difficult to evaluate mentally, as there are few clues in existing tournament experience.

Therefore, an idea arose to create such a clue—to hold a tournament with slightly curtailed Diplomacy. Rampart was chosen as the starting castle, as it has both a top diplomat and a strict examiner—a honored master of sports in athletics.

Rules:

1) Game version - HotA+HDmod+HWrulez (latest versions for all)

2) All games are played as Rampart

3) Diplomacy may be used to join troops of levels 1-5. This rule may change in either direction during the tournament; stay tuned for updates.

(!) in HW_Rulez, you must play without the "HW rules" checkbox checked (!)

4) Tournament format - Olympic bo3.

5) Templates:
- Jebus Cross
- Mini-Nostalgia
- Diamond
- 6lm10a
- Spider
- h3dm1
- mt-Diamond

In the first game, the player who is higher in rating chooses the color and template; the player who is lower in rating chooses the hero.

In the second game, it's the opposite. The template must be different.

In the third game (if necessary), the same-color player chooses a template from the 5 remaining templates. The same-color player starts if they are lower in rating. Color/hero is negotiated; the winner of the negotiation chooses either the color or the hero.

6) Games are played with simultaneous turns. By agreement, they can be played without them. Simultaneous turn deadlines:
- 7 days for Jebus Cross, h3dm1
- 5 days for Diamond, mt-Diamond, 6lm10a, Spider
- 12 days for Mini-Nostalgia

7) Restarts. For mirrored templates - 1 day, for others - 3 days.

8) Timer = 16+8+1 on all templates.

9) Red-rush is allowed on all tournament templates.

Other rules are standard.

Players have the right, by mutual agreement, to make any changes to the rules except for the choice of starting castles.

Miscellaneous:
- This is a fan tournament
- Tournament games go into the seasonal rating by default; they can be played without rating by mutual agreement
- The winner will be awarded something for their avatar (suggestions are welcome).

Registration lasts 2 weeks, the tournament starts on 11.11.2016 (immediately after the 2nd round of the swamp tournament ends)

Registration is closed.

35 people signed up, so there will be 3 qualification pairs for newcomers and a pair of "examiners":

Derbent (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Fill-ua (Blue, Rampart, Ufretin, Ufretin) 6lm10a 121
Derbent (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Fill-ua (Red, Rampart, Uland, Uland) Jebus Cross 125

BuTaJIuK (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def Sevan_80 (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Jebus Cross 136
BuTaJIuK (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Sevan_80 (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Mini-Nostalgia 147

DeadShot - calvert

Round of 32 Draw:

socola (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def yarik1987 (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) h3dm1 126
socola (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def yarik1987 (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Jebus Cross 125

freesha (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def BuTaJIuK (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Mini-Nostalgia 115
freesha (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def BuTaJIuK (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Jebus Cross 135

Dandy (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def Diabler (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Mini-Nostalgia 211
Diabler (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def Dandy (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Jebus Cross 124
Diabler (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def Dandy (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) 6lm10a 137

PROger (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Hi-Tech (Red, Rampart, Ivor, Gurnisson) Jebus Cross 137
Hi-Tech (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def PROger (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Mini-Nostalgia 121
PROger (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def Hi-Tech (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Lorelei) Diamond 133

BISHOP (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Jubi-Juby (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) 6lm10a 213
Jubi-Juby (Red, Rampart, Riland, Saira) def BISHOP (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Jebus Cross 147
BISHOP (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def Jubi-Juby (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) h3dm1 145

battanas (Red, Rampart, Ivor, Ivor) def Javdet (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Diamond 133
battanas (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Javdet (Red, Rampart, Mephala, Jeremy) h3dm1 223

ckotuHa (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Pyre (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Jebus Cross 133
Pyre (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def ckotuHa (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) h3dm1 136
Pyre (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def ckotuHa (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) 6lm10a 125

tun7gus7 (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def Tofsla (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) 6lm10a 127
Tofsla (Red, Rampart, Ivor, Ivor) def tun7gus7 (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Jebus Cross 123
tun7gus7 (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def Tofsla (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) h3dm1 141

wowa (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def PaTRioT (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Jebus Cross 131
wowa (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def PaTRioT (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) 6lm10a 117

R@sIM (Red, Rampart, Mephala, Mephala) def Wyndoc (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Jebus Cross 126
R@sIM (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Wyndoc (Blue, Rampart, Yanova, Tiva) 6lm10a 135

PutinKING (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Derbent (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Jebus Cross 142
Derbent (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def PutinKING (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Mini-Nostalgia 137
Derbent (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Orrin) def PutinKING (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Spider 124

=Lizard= (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def KobRa_RR (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Spider 242
=Lizard= (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def KobRa_RR (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Jebus Cross 137

wariator (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Deadshot (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Jebus Cross 132
Deadshot (Red, Rampart, Ivor, Craig Heg) def wariator (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) 6lm10a 144
wariator (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def Deadshot (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Diamond 223

Rep1sk (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def Dark30 (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Jebus Cross 132

Replacement korvet => yarik1987
yarik1987 (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def u2noob (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Mirror Diamond 112
yarik1987 (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def u2noob (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Diamond 135

Player Rep1sk is disqualified; Dandy advances to the round of 16 instead

Replacement flate => BuTaJIuK

BuTaJIuK (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Toganash (Red, Rampart, Mephala, Enain) Jebus Cross 133
BuTaJIuK (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Toganash (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Mini-Nostalgia 142

Round of 32 deadline - 5 weeks, i.e., until 16.12.2016
For players going through qualification, the round deadline is individual—I'll be flexible if needed, but please try not to drag it out.

Round of 16 Draw:

PROger (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Derbent (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Beatrice) Mini-Nostalgia 213
PROger (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Derbent (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) h3dm1 224

wowa (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def yarik1987 (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Jebus Cross 124
wowa (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Jeremy) def yarik1987 (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Diamond 124

Diabler (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def BISHOP (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) h3dm1 126
BISHOP (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Diabler (Red, Rampart, Riland, Miriam) Jebus Cross 125
Diabler (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def BISHOP (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Mini-Nostalgia 141

socola (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def R@sIM (Red, Rampart, Mephala, Mephala) 6lm10a 131
socola (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def R@sIM (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) h3dm1 147

freesha (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Rep1sk (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Jebus Cross 123
freesha (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Ivor) def Dandy (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Mini-Nostalgia 144

battanas (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def BuTaJIuK (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) 6lm10a 116
battanas (Blue, Rampart,Kyre,Kyre ) def BuTaJIuK(Red, Rampart,Riland ,Gunnar ) mini nostalgia - 211

wariator (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Pyre (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) 6lm10a 133

tun7gus7 (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def =Lizard= (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Mini-Nostalgia 114
tun7gus7 (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def =Lizard= (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Diamond 114

Round of 16 deadline - until 13.01.2017

Quarter-finals Draw:

socola (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def wariator (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Saira) h3dm1 145
socola (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Dessa) def wariator (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) 6lm10a 144

wowa (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def tun7gus7 (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Mini-Nostalgia 134
tun7gus7 (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def wowa (Red, Rampart, Riland, Labeta) Jebus Cross 134
tun7gus7 (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def wowa (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) 6lm10a 124

battanas (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def Diabler (Red, Rampart, Ivor, Ivor) Jebus Cross 131
Diabler (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def battanas (Red, Rampart, Ivor, Jeremy) Diamond 135

freesha (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Jeremy) def PROger (Red, Rampart, Riland, Mephala) Jebus Cross 137
PROger (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def freesha (Red, Rampart, Ivor, Ivor) h3dm1 145
PROger (Blue, Rampart, Mephala, Mephala) def freesha (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) Mini-Nostalgia 215

Quarter-finals deadline - until 10.02.2017

Semi-finals Draw:

tun7gus7 (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def PROger (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) 6lm10a 125
tun7gus7 (Red, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def PROger (Blue, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Mini-Nostalgia 114

Diabler (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) def socola (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) 6lm10a 217
Diabler (Blue, Rampart, Kyre, Kyre) def socola (Red, Rampart, Riland, Riland) Diamond 132

Semi-finals deadline - until 28.03.2017

Final:

Diabler vs tun7gus7

Final deadline - until 25.04.2017
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1) An opponent is not allowed to play for 10 turns without challenging the other player if they believe the rules have been violated.
2) An opponent is not allowed to say "I surrender if we start a new game now" and then say "I won, you have a technical defeat." Surrendering is not possible after 10 turns if the victory was due to a technical defeat that occurred 10 turns earlier (you already won, so how can you surrender?). If a player offers to surrender, it means they are playing with the understanding that the opponent is winning, which excludes the possibility of a technical defeat – this is ironclad logic, and there can be no other interpretation.

Bishop offered to surrender and only AFTER that claimed a technical defeat; this is documented. In this context, the question is, how can Bishop be right in this situation, while Jubi is wrong? Only if there is a lack of logic or if there is bias.

Here is some real food for thought for the judges (in addition to the already logically implemented cancellation of the redraft – otherwise, what was the point of negotiating the color?) – to punish for mutually exclusive statements, for hypocrisy, and for being sly.
Proxies, twink accounts, dual accounts :D
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Proxies, twink accounts, two accounts :D
And what does your profound message mean, esteemed iDD? I venture to suggest – it’s just spam, that’s what it means.
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So, what does your profound message mean, esteemed iDD? I venture to suggest – it’s just mindless chatter, that’s what it means.

I think iDD is subtly hinting that you are a fake Jubi-Jubi.
And I also want to say a few things. I’m a nobody who watches the streams of various streamers (and not-so-great streamers) quite actively, including Jubi’s.
Overall, I like how Jubi plays and comments, but these outbursts of boorish behavior are very surprising. You shouldn’t insult people like that, regardless of their actions in the game and whether someone is right or wrong; it’s low and disgusting. Please restrain yourself!
Apologies for the off-topic comment, all the best to everyone!
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They turned the tournament into a mess... :smile48:
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And what does your profound message mean, esteemed iDD? I venture to suggest – it’s just spam, that’s what it means.
Waiting for 5 years to stand up for the truth. What a deed!
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They turned the tournament into a mess... :smile48:
Diplomacy is like that.
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I won't hesitate to call it a Great Match, worthy of the final of any tournament. Over 25 hours of real time, 7 (!) full finals. Kirr, without air units or diplomacy, simply walked on wings (with 4600+ MP) to counter a crazy diplomat with 2 damage-dealing units. In the 6th final (around the 22nd minute), Artem had a chance to win, but he didn't play correctly. I don't see the point in describing all this in detail. Those who didn't watch the stream (and are interested) can watch the recording on Twitch. Thank you for the game! #1-0
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Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Кайри / Kyrre Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Кайри / Kyrre Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Риланд / Ryland Start Hero Риланд / Ryland
Риланд / Ryland Main Hero Риланд / Ryland
Map Template
Spider
Game Length
242 days
Game Date
12/3/2016
Reported
12/3/2016 11:00 AM
Rating Impact Archived
=Lizard= 1752 1776 +24 ↑
KobRa_RR 1993 1969 -24 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 12/24/2016 6:47 AM

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It took 5 years to stand up for the truth. A commendable act!


I am very glad, esteemed iDD, that you have finally noticed the inconsistency in your excellent twinking post and paid attention to the registration dates. Now, come up with an explanation for how this could have happened – a time machine, the gift of foresight, or a random surge of public conscience?

swallowme Registration: 01/28/2011
iDD Registration: 02/27/2011
Jubi-Juby Registration: 01/03/2015

And for the future – before writing something, esteemed iDD, you need to think about it, especially if it is something that will end up in a specific place. As for my words and actions, they are carefully considered, both today and 5 years ago.

Sincerely.
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The following situation occurred with my opponent tun7gus7 - we are playing Jebus Cross, I have a lookout near my opponent, I see on turn 122 he goes out to hit the GO angels 20+ (while not touching the small Pandora's Box nearby behind the pirates), takes a Castle and hides in the center, a long turn of 20 minutes +. Then, as sometimes happens unexpectedly, there's a power outage, annoying yes, I reload the auto-save. This time he breaks the guard of the Pandora's Box and positions himself on the speed boost before the GO and passes the turn to me. It seemed to me that this was not quite fair play, and I accused my opponent of technical pause abuse, to which he politely objected, saying something didn't work out with the chains and he would gladly have played his turn like the first time. And here we are)
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A situation arose with my opponent tun7gus7 - we were playing Jebus Cross, I had a scout near my opponent, at turn 122 I see him come out to hit the GO Angels 20+ (without touching the small Pandora's Box nearby guarded by pirates), he takes a Castle and hides in the center, a long turn of 20+ minutes. Then, as sometimes happens unexpectedly, the power goes out, frustrating indeed, I load the autosave. This time he breaks the guard of the Pandora's Box and positions himself on the road before the GO and passes the turn to me. It seemed to me that this wasn't exactly fair play, and I claimed a tech loss against the opponent, to which he politely objected, saying something didn't work out with the chains and he would gladly have taken his turn as he did the first time. And here we are.)
Let him take his turn as he did the first time.

The main thing is that there are no repeats of this, the next time it will be a tech loss.
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A situation arose with my opponent tun7gus7 - we're playing Jebus Cross, I have a scouting unit near my opponent, I see on turn 122 he comes out to hit the GO angels 20+ (while not touching the small Pandora's Box next to it behind the pirates), takes a Castle and hides in the center, a long turn of 20 minutes+. Then, as sometimes suddenly happens, the power goes out, frustrating, yes, I reload the autosave. This time he breaks the guard of the Pandora's Box and positions himself at the split before the GO and passes the turn to me. It seemed to me that this is not entirely fair play, and I accused the opponent of technical loss, to which he politely objected, saying that something didn't work out with the chains and he would gladly have played the same way as the first time. And here we are.

You were right to think so! The turn must be replayed. And if the power keeps going out like this often, then it's a reason to take a closer look at the Pirate, especially since he's the season leader, after all.)
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I thought the Tungus was different!
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I surrendered in week 1, but decided to continue. My opponent surrendered in week 2. In the end, the pink computer finished off the opponent. GG. Thanks for the game!
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Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Риланд / Ryland Start Hero Риланд / Ryland
Риланд / Ryland Main Hero Риланд / Ryland
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Кайри / Kyrre Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Лорелей / Loreley Main Hero Лорелей / Loreley
Map Template
Diamond
Game Length
133 days
Game Date
12/4/2016
Reported
12/4/2016 3:06 PM
Rating Impact Archived
PROger 1431 1447 +16 ↑
Hi-Tech 1472 1456 -16 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 12/4/2016 3:12 PM

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I almost rage-quit in the first week, but I decided to continue. My opponent almost rage-quit in the second week. In the end, a pink computer finished off my opponent. GG.

Thanks for the game!
Unfortunately, I attacked the guard of the Zephyr castle, and there were a lot of them...
In the end, I lost, but then I seemed to recover and started to gain momentum, but a tough computer opponent appeared. I decided to attack it myself to avoid losing strategic castles. As a result, the computer became very powerful... I won against it, but I had very little left. After that, I decided not to push my luck anymore...
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Let it be like the first time.

The main thing is that there are no relapses like this, otherwise the next time it will be permanent.
And I suggest punishing them more severely. It is very difficult to fight against cheaters, and for the purpose of preventing such actions, so that people do not think that they can do this and then "just switch accounts." I will raise this issue in the Arbitration Committee.

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