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I'm still considering it. I would hang you with much greater pleasure. The difficulty of my situation lies in the fact that I believe Yashur, as a former Tox, and Neyra, with reservations, Vish. But at the same time, I have a fairly confident non-aligned Fragment-Rimpel, which gives me every reason to believe that there is an error among the villagers. But I find it hard to believe in two errors, so you are not a villager. At the same time, this gives reason to believe that there is both a villager and a Mafia member in Fragment-Rimpel. So, I am very interested in your opinion on this matter, because based on it, I can also gather your story, if not today, then tomorrow.
Added 3 minutes ago No, it won't be difficult for me to find an error among the villagers. If I find a Mafia member and hang him, the votes will be distributed 4-3, which will unequivocally reveal the Mafia. Or one of them tries to cheat, and we end up with 5-2. Well, we'll hang the second one on the third day, and those who remain will think.
Added 42 seconds ago Yashur, can you explain to me why there was no message that the chains were lowered, even though the description of the Shaman's execution implies that this should have happened.
Is the minimum number of votes required for a player to be nominated calculated based on the total number of players in the game, or only from the number of players who actually have votes, i.e., excluding those who are unable to vote? In other words, the same question: "How many votes were needed for a nomination yesterday, 4 or 5?"
From all players. 5.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт Небо – угроз не слышит Небо – ведёт особый счёт Небо – тебя найдёт
Yashur, can you explain to me why there wasn't a message indicating that the chains were lowered, even though the description of the Shaman's execution implies that they should have been.
I have no idea.:smile32:
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
Yeah, I remember what it was about (I asked a similar question in another game, but that's just a side note).
At the beginning of this game, there is a link to the general rules:
/topic/10837/
And point 4 states that a simple majority of votes is required for the rogue. However, this rule wasn't followed even during the first execution.
Yes, I would have raised this issue, but eventually, I gave up. In short, it's clear now. I wrote too brief a post, and because of that, I'm now failing with my reasoning, which works against me. It's my mistake; it won't happen again – only detailed questions from now on. And don't trust links to the rules; re-ask each point from the link because they may not match across different games.
Added after 4 minutes Neb, then this question is for you since you're here:
If there is no message about removing the chains, is it correct to assume that they haven't been removed? Or does some in-game situation exist where removing the chains isn't displayed in the results?
Hey, since you're here, I have a question: If there's no message about the chains being removed, is it correct to assume that they haven't been removed? Or is there some in-game situation where removing the chains isn't reflected in the results?
There is some in-game situation where removing the chains isn't reflected in the results. And that situation is called "I wanted it to be that way."
Небо – мольбы не ждёт Небо – угроз не слышит Небо – ведёт особый счёт Небо – тебя найдёт
I'll continue with the questions. Given that something similar was recently exploited several times:
are the chains removed immediately? In other words, if Esben is executed, will the prisoners in the Necropolis be released?
But it didn't work out, hence the obvious question.
Added 2 minutes ago I'm waiting for lists of peaceful and negative roles from everyone. In slang, they are called traffic lights.
For example, you named two negative roles - write down who else is more likely to be peaceful, and who is suspected of being the third.
There are three mafia members, so there can't be fewer than three suspects.
Next, everyone writes their authoritative opinion on which town roles remain in the game. And about the eliminated players, everything you can think of.
Added 1 minute ago We have a critical situation, we can't make mistakes. As I understand it, there's no one to guess the clues from, so we'll use the good old methods of the classic game.
Don't drag out the analysis of these lists. It still needs to be done. We can approach this from a different angle – positional play is very effective in the current situation. It's not the most efficient search method, but it works well when there's no room for error, like now. And, in principle, anyone who doesn't want to participate in this can be considered a Mafia member right away. Enough time has passed, and at least a couple of townspeople have gathered enough information about the Neutral characters to form a well-reasoned opinion. Even without Neutral characters, there's plenty of information, and the non-pairing method still applies.
Added 54 seconds ago Sky
There was "they won't get it" on the night of Esben's murder. There was nothing about an execution.
I meant a different "there," that is, a different game. The fact that there was nothing about an execution is my oversight; I should have asked about that too.
Added 1 minute ago RiMpel2
Unless the Master is Fritjof
Added 16 minutes ago Sky is joking; there are 2 links to Salem in the wiki. That means you have to search twice as much. Perhaps you should search yourselves.
Added 36 seconds ago No, there are a dozen of them.
Added 1 minute ago
Sky, can you somehow narrow down the selection of clues?
If anything, Rimple's clear indication that it's not Fritjof is evident here.
I'm still thinking about it. I would much rather hang you. The difficulty of my situation is that I believe Yashchur, as a former Tox, Neyra, and with reservations, Vish. But at the same time, I have a fairly confident non-pair of Fragment and Rimpel, which gives me every reason to believe that there is an error among the peaceful players. But I find it hard to believe in two errors, so you are not one of the peaceful players. At the same time, this gives reason to believe that there is both a peaceful player and a Mafia member in the Fragment-Rimpel pair. So, I am very interested in your opinion on this matter, because based on it, I can also put together your profile, if not today, then tomorrow.
It turns out that one of those you trust is actually untrustworthy. If I had to choose between the Fragment and Rimpel pair, I would rather vote against the latter, although I have no evidence against the former, just intuition based on his daytime play. Although I understand that as a Mafia member, I should be pushing against Fragment to give myself room to maneuver, but as a peaceful player, I unfortunately cannot do that, even though it would probably mean you would have to reconsider your list, based on the fact that both I and Fragment are peaceful players, although, as you say, two errors are highly unlikely, but I am willing to remain under suspicion for now, just so that we can successfully hang a Mafia member today.
Regarding the list of peaceful players, we have already discussed it, I think.
I'm waiting for everyone to provide lists of the peaceful players and the "negatives."
So, I'll provide my list, cast my vote, and then I'll leave, because I just got home from work, and now I'm going to the sauna with friends, so I definitely won't be able to participate tonight, which is very frustrating. First, I want to say that the execution of the Shaman saddened me. But to be honest, I won't lie; I was sure he was one of the bad guys. And out of the pair of Uran and Shaman, he seemed more suspicious. It's a shame that we were wrong. It's disappointing that Frithjof made the same mistake. I'll start with those I trust: Vishmaster, Uran (kill me if you must, but my intuition tells me he's a good guy), Heroist/Fragment. I want to believe in Heroist more, but at the same time, I'm confused by Uran's reasoning that Fragment can't be paired with Rimp. Maybe I'm wrong about Vishmaster, but my intuition leans towards him. Regarding those I want to execute: Rimpel, Yashur, Fragment/Heroist. I hope my reasoning isn't wrong. I wrote about Rimp last time, but I didn't think we would lose Esben so easily. In short, execute Rimpel. It's a shame that I won't be able to participate further. I hope I wake up tomorrow morning with good news about the Mafia being eliminated.
Heroist
Uranium235
