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A normal tech support situation. It's similar to chess when an opponent picks up a piece they weren't planning to move. It's a shame that Volodya got distracted and didn't pay attention to the mine, but I don't see anything particularly wrong with declaring the opponent's defeat.

The rules in Heroes should protect against excessive imbalance in a game that wasn't originally designed for Multiplayer. Instead of giving an easy win where there isn't one.

That’s because the rules are like this… And no one cares until they themselves suffer. I sympathize, wowa :mad:

The only difference between this situation and the previous one was that the respawn point was not neutral, but belonged to the opponent.

Essentially, Vova confirmed the report himself; he didn't appeal to the judges or the Arbitration Committee. The outcome won't change. The only exception would be appealing to the Arbitration Committee and having a different result awarded.

But did the opponent also see that they landed on the neighboring respawn without a breakthrough?

I also lost two tournament games after going to another zone, which resulted in a penalty.

it became clear after the match
but even though he didn't break through, the player who violated the rules farmed well, consuming conscripts and universals, but still lost
I raised the question of "what would have happened if blue had won"
most were in favor of the tech-por, so it was accepted
so the topic, as the respected organizer said, is closed
I'm not appealing to the AK because I don't see any arguments "for" on my part regarding a legal violation of the rules
the "it didn't decide anything" stories don't work for me; dura lex, sed lex.

What do you mean you don't see the arguments "for"? This technical issue contradicts logic, and that's exactly why the Appeals Committee was created – to address situations not covered by the rules and make decisions based on logic.
In general, in such cases, a technical draw should simply be declared when a bugged path without a Gate of the Abyss leading to the center is discovered, because it completely breaks the game!

Additional rules for transitions between zones:
- In order to exit your zone and enter the central treasure (zone 5), as well as to pass from the central treasure to other zones, it is necessary to break through the corresponding Gate of the Abyss. Using bugged passages between the central treasure and a specific zone is prohibited until the Gate of the Abyss between these zones is broken.

07.10.2016 silenthill (Blue, Inferno, Calid, Calid) def wowa (Red, Necropolis, Galthran, Galthran) Jebus Cross 126

gave away
on the previous turn I scouted the blue guards in front of their GO and the road junction (I had expert Earth and Air with scouting)
I moved a scout there, but didn't run through the passage — I had doubts
but on the next turn all the blue guards had disappeared somewhere, and the town above also hadn't turned blue
I thought the opponent had already broken through the GO and scouted, and then, seeing my hero with stats and army, he fled to avoid an attack
but I was wrong, not paying attention to the gold mine
it's a shame, especially since I pulled the game out of nothing — at respawn there was 1 Dragon Fly Hive near the GO, which I took on the day of exit, and 1 max-level Griffin Conservatory, which couldn't be taken quickly, but by the time of the mistake the whole center was scouted, a level-20 hero + Aislin level 17 with good leveling, who took a Dragon Utopia at respawn on the day of exit, all of Earth magic was available and the map was being demolished!
but it's my own fault, and since I once analyzed a similar situation on the forum (though there the respawn was neutral, and the unguarded passage required close attention, here on 126 I didn't even consider the fact that the opponent hadn't broken through)

GG, thanks for the game

Well, everything was taken into account:

Whether he knew or didn't know that it was a buggy passage – it's just a tale for the poor.
In the end, the mine was visible; he could have figured it out.

P.S. Yes, in essence and in the spirit of the game, there was no violation there – any game object was destroyed by a 20th-level Loins that stepped on the lava, with 90 mana, Expert Prayer, and Animate, practically without any losses!
But according to the rules of the game, there was a violation, and a tech ban is due for that.
I am all for changing such rules, but for now, we play by the rules we have.

What does the AK have to do with it when there is an obvious violation of the rules? Only the opponent decides how significant it is and what to do.

I believe that in a tournament where strong players are gathered, except for me of course, I'm a newbie ), but in this situation the opponent had scouting of air and land and saw everything around! After all, this is not a newbie tournament. The day before, he was standing near a mine and could have gone through the sands to the castle. His move was deliberate, well thought out. He saw the city roads. Also, Vova, you broke through the mine and then entered the zone. This is Jebus Cross, why go further at all? if you see a mine and then another zone beyond it.

what does the AC have to do with it, when it's an obvious rule violation. Only the opponent decides how significant it is and how to proceed.

This is kind of a precedent-setting case, what do fairy tales for the poor have to do with it? The Admiral's hat was also allowed, but when an incident with it occurred in a tournament, the AC banned it and ordered a rematch. True, nitro himself decided to refuse the rematch, but that doesn't change the matter.

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