Online tournament: The best hero. — Tournament History online

Quaker

19 years ago

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I believe that a truly skilled player (no offense to anyone) should make moves quickly.

It's interesting to consider: if Kasparov were given a time limit of just a few minutes, how would he play? Would he still become a world champion, or not? Perhaps the comparison isn't entirely accurate, but still...

I simply stated that skill is the ability to make moves quickly.

I'd like to refine that statement: skill is the ability to make moves relatively quickly and effectively.
As I understand it, the competition here isn't about the ability to play, but rather about who can complete their turn in the shortest amount of time. So, let's organize a tournament with a 30-second time limit? Or even less? And then what? The winner could be someone who, during their allotted time, didn't get distracted by, say, scratching their back (as an example), and, losing a couple of seconds, didn't manage to complete their turn.
Yes, I agree that waiting 10-15 minutes for each turn can drive you crazy, but introducing such restrictions, in my opinion, isn't entirely appropriate; it's only suitable for a specific group of players.

Because players are divided into newbies and pros, and there's nothing you can do about it.

That's not very heroic of you. Players are divided into amateurs, good players, and professionals.

DerRauch

19 years ago

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That wasn't a very heroic way of putting it. Players are divided into amateurs, good players, and pros.Well, where I played, there were either noobs or gods :)

Then let's better organize a 30 sec tournament?No, that's not the point. I just meant that I can move like that, but I'm not forcing anyone to play this way. There are rules, and we play by them. I suggested to people who can make their moves within 1 minute to play under such conditions. I'm not a PRO in Heroes; it's just that my speed comes from RTS and I know all the basics, but I doubt I'll actually beat anyone here. And I'm not putting myself above anyone here. The conclusion is that I'm not showing off or anything like that. I'm just stating my point.
PS I deleted the old messages at a person's request. Sorry, I didn't understand how to delete them right away. This is my first time encountering such a forum.

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Quaker

19 years ago

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I'm not a PRO in Heroes, I just have a lot of experience from playing RTS games, and I know all the basics, but I doubt I'll win against anyone here. And I'm not setting any personal goals here.

I'm not a pro either, and I don't even consider myself to be a good player. Heroes isn't a game about speed. I doubt there's even one player here who doesn't know the basics. Playing fast doesn't always mean playing well.

DerRauch

19 years ago

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Playing fast doesn't always mean playing well.

You're right. It's better to think it through, but some people can spend an hour thinking.
As for the pros—simply put, when you encounter Pros in Heroes, it just comes down to luck and who bought more troops and found more artifacts, including magic. And I think it will be the same at the tournament. You won't beat me like some noob who didn't know who is stronger, an Archangel or a Devil, or which artifact is better to equip, the Centaur's Axe or the Sword of Justice, or what a certain spell means or what a specific combined artifact consists of. That won't work with me; I know everything in Heroes, I think it's the absolute limit. I've been playing them periodically for 6 years now. It all comes down to who gets lucky, who calculated correctly, and who miscalculated. That's all. But I have no experience playing Heroes online, so it'll be a bit nerve-wracking; because of this, my chances of losing increase beyond the standard chance. I only had experience in Generals. But as they say, you can't drink away your experience :)

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Quaker

19 years ago

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In Heroes, when experienced players face each other, luck and attentiveness become the key to victory. It all depends on who has gathered more troops, found more artifacts, and mastered magic.

I agree that when experienced players are involved, luck and attentiveness are crucial for victory.

Who is stronger, the Archangel or the Devil? Which artifact is better, the Centaur's Axe or the Sword of Justice? What does a specific type of magic mean, or what does a specific composite artifact consist of? This won't work with me; I think I know everything about Heroes and have reached the highest level.

I'll say it again: it's highly unlikely that there's a single Heroes player here who doesn't know all of this. But that's not a guarantee of victory, is it? A chess player can't be unaware of how a particular piece moves. But how they move it is a different matter.

But I don't have any experience playing Heroes online, so I'll be a bit hesitant.

Playing against the AI is enough; you can take 30 seconds per turn, and with a bit of luck, you can even fight battles over a couple of weeks on auto-battle. I myself have only recently started playing against another person. I'm bringing all this up to suggest that you somehow increase the turn limit and give players enough time to think. I would like to participate in the next tournament, which is why I'm bothering everyone with this question. :)

DerRauch

19 years ago

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The computer is spamming relentlessly. It just keeps spamming. But the computer is a noob. Although sometimes, when it comes with phoenixes and a couple of dozens of units, it can put up a decent fight, but otherwise, it doesn't pose any problems.

A chess player shouldn't be unaware of how a particular piece moves.

You're right. But I meant that it's possible to win against someone who doesn't know everything. Basically, whoever plays better (levels up their hero, gathers resources, acquires magic, assembles troops, and performs well in battle against the opponent) will win. Although, you can also win without a battle :). Well, never mind.
PS By the way, Quaker, are you free tomorrow

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OJERO

19 years ago

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Kopyl Dmitry Yurievich;93591

Hello everyone. I can play today after 00:00 Moscow time.

I'm also ready!!! So, are we playing? Confirm.

step_1985

19 years ago

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Congratulations to Ewgeniy and Vbn for playing the first round of the tournament! Good luck in the next rounds!!!

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ewgeniy

19 years ago

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Quaker;93629

I'm not a pro either, and I don't even consider myself to be a good player. Heroes isn't a game about speed. I doubt there's even one player here who doesn't know the basics. Playing fast doesn't always mean playing well.

I agree with this and think it's worth adding the following:

5 - 10 - 15 is too much! You can waste time during a battle, but why? You still can't see the map properly, etc.
2 minutes is perfectly fine. If two powerful players meet, that's a different story... I could play with a 1-minute timer, but I want to achieve at least some result! And I don't think there's anything more to say; everyone has already said everything...
! This is not aggression, but a request not to argue!

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JOIS;93575

To Vuzzza!!!

Hi!!! If it's not too much trouble, could you help me create or join a clan?:smile45:

It would be nice to join something too. I don't want to join – the names are all weird everywhere: homo homini, yan lou van, etc. But creating one would be great! If you're going to do that, I'd like to help and participate...:smile28:

Клан"Homo Homini":smile19: Полезные ссылки:smile01:

В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.

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OJERO

19 years ago

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Dear organizers! My opponent, Kopyl D.Yu., and I are ready to play today at 23:30 Kyiv time.

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step_1985

19 years ago

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OJERO;93716

Dear organizers! My opponent, Kopyl D.Yu., and I are ready to play today at 23:30 Kyiv time.

Okay. Here is my ICQ number: 457-645-091.

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ewgeniy

19 years ago

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step_1985;93681

Congratulations to the first players who completed the 1st round of the Ewgeniy and Vbn tournament. Good luck in the next rounds!!!

Thanks :smile07:

Клан"Homo Homini":smile19: Полезные ссылки:smile01:

В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.

Pankratov

19 years ago

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Steff, get in touch.

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Sash1988

19 years ago

pavlikkk ya jdu vstrechi stoboi ... moi icq:309201501 esli chto :):cool:

_Jk_

19 years ago

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I really want to participate!!! I have Shades of Darkness. I can only play in the evenings (10:00 PM Moscow time) on weekdays, or on weekends whenever (we need to arrange a time). Castle faction. Hero: Grey Mulich.

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