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What timer setting should I use for Panic and 2sm4d(3)?
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Single choice Public votes Closed 2016-06-25
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HV timer – 16:00 + 06:30 + 01:00
45.9% 34 votes
the timer used on Diamond is – 19:00+08:00+01:15
54.1% 40 votes
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"OFB-10"
Registration is now open for the qualifying tournament for the most prestigious online HoMM 3 tournament on heroesworld.ru – "Final Battle"

Organizational matters:

1. Tournament leader – злой_романтик (ICQ - 296524052), organizational questions - skd (ICQ - 593626431); judges – Dima Surmay (ICQ - 263293484), Nitro (ICQ - 627769385), Dirty Player (ICQ - 408722873).
2. The tournament is official and regular, conducted according to the Rules for organization, conduct, and participation in HOMM3 online tournaments.
3. All tournament games go into the HoMM3 HW Player Rating.
4. After the start of tournament games, the tournament regulations will not be changed.
5. Disputed points, if any arise, are discussed outside the forum. For a resolution, you must contact the leader or one of the tournament judges via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
6. A draw result for a game is accepted only upon review of the save and agreement with the tournament judges.
7. Tournament games must be played within the established timeframe. For violation of game deadlines, by decision of the leader and tournament judges, a player may be penalized up to disqualification from the tournament.

Requirements for participants:

1. Heroesworld players with a site registration date before 01.06.2015 and having at least 50 rated games are invited to the tournament.
2. Players with a general same HeroesWorld rating of 1600+ have the right to free registration in the tournament.
3. Applications from participants with a HeroesWorld rating of 1599 and below will be reviewed by the leader and tournament judges on an individual basis.
4. Applications from participants who have unconfirmed reports will be left without consideration until the corresponding reports are confirmed.
5. The organizers reserve the right to refuse registration for players who have repeatedly withdrawn or been disqualified from other HeroesWorld tournaments.

Regulations


Rules:

1. Game version: The tournament is held on the SoD + HD mod game version 4.2+.
2. Patch HW_rulez 1.38 is used in tournament games (in case a new version is released, this point will be updated).
3. The tournament is conducted according to the rules for online games in Heroes 3.
Clarification to the rules: on XL+U templates, the "Mage Guild own" option must be enabled.
4. Restarts total 3 days (111+111+111 or 111+112 or 113).
5. Templates:
Panic, 2sm4d(3), Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, Jebus Cross, 8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider.
A fixed template will be set for each subsequent round in accordance with the draw. Each tournament template will be played once in the tournament.
6. Choice of towns:
Each tournament participant will play one game for each town.
After confirmation of registration in the tournament, the participant must send skd via ICQ or a private message on the forum a list containing information on which town and on which template the participant wishes to conduct the game. The towns specified in the list are not subject to change.
7. Choice of color: bidding is conducted for the right to choose the color; the player listed second in the pair makes the first bid.
8. In case players who declared the same towns for a template meet in a subsequent round, bidding for the hero is conducted.
Each participant has the right to cross out one hero, after which bidding for the right to choose the hero first is conducted. The player listed second in the pair crosses out first and makes the first bid. Bidding for the hero is conducted after bidding for color.


Tournament Format:

1. Registration from June 1 to 20:00 (Moscow time) June 12.
2. Start of tournament games – 13 June 2016. End of the tournament – 16 October 2016.
3. The tournament is conducted using a Swiss system in 9 rounds. Each round lasts 14 days: it starts at 10:00 on Monday of the first day of the round and ends at 20:00 on Sunday of the final day of the round.
4. Within the round timeframe, a report on the completed game of the round must be made in the tournament thread to record the tournament result. In case of failure to comply with this rule requirement, either a technical result or a score of 0-0 will be entered for the matches.
5. Round dates:
Round 1: 13 June – 26 June
Round 2: 27 June – 10 July
Round 3: 11 July – 24 July
Round 4: 25 July – 7 August
Round 5: 8 August – 21 August
Round 6: 22 August – 4 September
Round 7: 5 September – 18 September
Round 8: 19 September – 2 October
Round 9: 3 October – 16 October
6. 2 points are given for a win, 1 point for a draw, and 0 points for a loss.
Places are distributed based on the points earned.
In case of equal points, additional indicators apply in order of priority:
1) Buchholz Coefficient;
2) Number of wins;
3) Head-to-head encounter;
If it is not possible to distribute places between participants who have a chance to enter the final stage of the tournament based on additional indicators, tie-breaks will be held.
Tie-break rules: template draw, random pair of towns + bidding for town choice and color choice.
7. 10 players participate in "Final Battle–10":
Winner of FB-9 Maretti,
2nd place FB-9 Aiwe,
3rd place FB-9 KobRa_RR,
Winner of the "Only XL-3" tournament,
Winner of the "Favorites, to battle-8" tournament,
Top 5 places of the OFB-10 tournament.
Additions:
In case Maretti, Aiwe or KobRa_RR refuse to participate in FB-10 – their slot will be taken by the player who took 6th or a subsequent place in OFB-10;
In case the winners of the "Only XL-3" or "Favorites, to battle-8" tournaments are among the players who took one of the top five places in OFB-10 or refuse to participate in the FB-10 tournament, the right to participate in FB-10 passes to the finalists of said tournaments.
In case the finalists of the "Only XL-3" or "Favorites, to battle-8" tournaments also are among the players who took one of the top five places in OFB-10 or refuse to participate in the FB-10 tournament, their slot will be taken by the player who took 6th or a subsequent place in OFB-10.

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A tough game; long journeys, few Hives, and the Pits saved the day. My opponent had a lot of Fairy Dragons, which almost won him the game. In the final, 270 Demons sealed the victory. Thanks for the game!
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Инферно / Inferno Faction Инферно / Inferno
Кэлх / Calh Start Hero Кэлх / Calh
Пасис / Pasis Main Hero Пасис / Pasis
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Крепость / Fortress Faction Крепость / Fortress
Тазар / Tazar Start Hero Тазар / Tazar
Тазар / Tazar Main Hero Тазар / Tazar
Map Template
Mini-Nostalgia
Game Length
212 days
Game Date
6/25/2016
Reported
6/25/2016 7:09 PM
Rating Impact Archived
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silenthill 1665 1649 -16 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 6/25/2016 7:43 PM

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theShevanesian
Tough game; long roads, few beehives, pits saved me. My opponent had GO fairies, which is what saved them. In the final fight, 270 demons decided it. Thanks for the game!
GO fairies :( 6 of them, delayed my exit to the center by a week. I picked up treasure zone, with 20 ducks and a utopus for stats, I was lucky that there was 1 speed, I built Conflux birds at the computer. In the end, I was killing 3 fairies per round. My opponent had already shown up in the center a day earlier, but didn't seek contact, and I couldn't catch up until I gained control. After 2 weeks, the opponent attacked with 260 demons, which also resisted implosion in the first round, and 2 stacks of ducks had no poison proc:smile20:. The opponent had mass haste and bracers. If the poison had procced and there had been no resistance, maybe I would have pulled it off. Thanks for the game.
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Since today is my birthday, the organizers decided to give me a present. It goes something like this... Since you, Dark, have the lowest online presence on Heroes of Might and Magic, and couldn't finish the game with Num, we're giving you two techs and two zeros! No odds, no judgments, you can throw your logs out the window, we don't need them (that's probably what the organizers think). As a reasonable and understanding person, who is on vacation and playing Heroes of Might and Magic for at least 84 hours a week, I probably have the highest online presence on Heroes of Might and Magic right now... I've decided not to accept the 0 points and the techs, but to withdraw instead, given this great gift:smile20:

лето 2012.
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It's best not to make such decisions in haste. I will include you as a participant in the draw for the 2nd round; I hope you'll reconsider.

Now, information for players:

You are participating in the OFB tournament; the fact that you are simultaneously playing games in other tournaments or engaging in activities that could affect the outcome of this specific tournament does not influence anything.

As the tournament organizers, either I (zloy_romantik) or another organizer can help and resolve a controversial situation or schedule a game.
But for this, it is necessary to contact us personally, either via ICQ or through a personal message on the forum.

The format of this tournament does not allow for setting odds after the deadline for the round has passed.
Decisions based on a saved game, as stated in the tournament regulations, are only made in the case of both players agreeing to a draw.

Specifically, in this case, one player (Num) simply wrote in the forum thread on the 13th day of the round, and I personally messaged the other player (Dark) on the last day of the round.

I don't see a more adequate solution than a mutual defeat due to the fact that the game was not played within the deadline for the round.
You can appeal the decision to the Arbitration Committee.

additional information:
Two technical defeats in the OFB-10 tournament will result in disqualification from the tournament.

After the tournament, a list of players who withdrew or were disqualified will be compiled.

If I am entrusted to run OFB-11, then players who withdrew or were disqualified from OFB-10 will be automatically denied registration for this reason.

Also, if another person runs the tournament, I hope they will take this information into account.

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By the way, why were both players penalized? It turned out that they physically couldn't complete the round on time, and there was a mistake in promptly informing the judges. But why not flip a coin to decide the winner, or award 0.5 points to each? Why immediately reduce both players' chances of competing further? Logically, in a round, a total of 1 point should be awarded between the two players, and if neither is disqualified, it seems strange that both receive zero...
And if the mistake happens again, they could simply be removed from the tournament; I think that would be a more logical action.
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skd
You shouldn't make such decisions in haste. I will include you as a participant in the draw for the 2nd round; I hope you will reconsider.

Now, information for players:

You are participating in the OFB tournament; the fact that you are playing games in other tournaments or engaging in other activities that could affect the outcome of this specific tournament does not matter.

As the tournament organizers, either I (zloy_romantik) or another organizer can help and resolve a controversial situation or schedule a game.
But for this, you need to contact us personally, either through ICQ or through a personal message on the forum.

The format of this tournament does not allow for odds to be set after the deadline for the round has passed.
Decisions based on a save file, as stated in the tournament rules, are only made in the case of both players agreeing to a draw.

Specifically in this case, one player (Num) simply wrote in the forum thread on the 13th day of the round, and I personally messaged the other player (Dark) on the last day of the round.

I don't see a more appropriate solution than a mutual defeat due to the fact that the game was not played within the deadline for the round.
You can appeal this decision to the Arbitration Committee.

additional information:
Two technical defeats in the OFB-10 tournament will result in disqualification from the tournament.

After the tournament, a list of players who withdrew or were disqualified will be compiled.

If I am entrusted to run OFB-11, then players who withdrew or were disqualified from OFB-10 will be automatically denied registration for this reason.

Also, if another person runs the tournament, I hope they will take this information into account.

I don't understand anything – the round isn't over yet, but the organizer is already handing out technical defeats. What's going on?
At the same time, it's impossible to reach skd on ICQ – some kind of anti-spam is blocking everything. I wrote to Rome yesterday – I received the answer: "well, think about it and decide, tomorrow is the last day."
Стримы HMM5 на полных картах мод TE:
ru.twitch.tv/noom11

Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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Regardless of this specific situation, you, the community, need to decide for yourselves: do you want strict deadlines and an end to the casual approach, or flexible deadlines where everyone plays as and when they want? Because it feels like, on paper, everyone wants strict deadlines, but only until it affects them personally!!...:D


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KobRa_RR
Regardless of this specific situation, people, you need to decide for yourselves: do you want strict time limits and an end to casual play, or flexible time limits where everyone can play whenever and however they want? Because it feels like everyone wants strict time limits on paper, but only until it affects them personally!!...:D
I personally want to play after 7-8 PM, but I keep being asked to play during the day.
Стримы HMM5 на полных картах мод TE:
ru.twitch.tv/noom11

Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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You started the game that week but failed/didn't want to agree on a specific time to finish it. Both of you were careless about the game's outcome and notified the tournament organizers at the end of the round when it was no longer possible to take any measures to schedule an odd game. Yes, we have a problem with ICQ, and for some reason, I can't add you. But I check the forum every day, and no one on the forum has any problems sending me a private message on the forum. I do the same as a participant in other tournaments. For example, Kilgor asked me three times during this round to schedule an odd game, and as you can see, he finished his game. Dark is justifying this situation by saying that he could play earlier, and you are justifying it by saying that you can play now. I am justifying my decision by saying that I only learned about the problem on the last day of the round.

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Having started the game earlier that week, you were unable/unwilling to agree on a specific time to finish it.
Both of you were careless about the outcome of the game and notified the tournament organizers at the end of the round, when it was no longer possible to take any measures to schedule an odd game.
Yes, we have a problem with ICQ, and for some reason, I can't add myself to it. But I log in to the forum every day, and no one on the forum has any difficulty sending me a private message on the forum.

I do the same as a participant in other tournaments.

For example, Kilgor asked me three times during this round to schedule an odd game in his match, and as you can see, he finished his game.

Dark justifies this situation by saying that he was able to play earlier, and you justify it by saying that you can play now.
I justify my decision by the fact that I only learned about the problem on the last day of the round.
But what do decisions have to do with the end of the round? At 8:00 PM, for God's sake, make any decision you want. But I don't understand why you would write to tech support 4 hours before the end of the round. I don't know what Ed is writing about – he couldn't play every evening, maybe he was watching football or sleeping, I don't know. I just didn't expect such a surprise from him on the weekend, considering that I worked all week during the day, including weekends, and even missed fishing because of it. I don't understand why he would organize a tech loss for himself and for me.
Стримы HMM5 на полных картах мод TE:
ru.twitch.tv/noom11

Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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I don't remember the details, but roughly: on the first week, I bought the unicorns from the external dwelling, on the second week I got 5 angels from 3 conclaves, on the third week I completely cleared all three of my treasure zones: the teapot, КВ and Dragon Fly Hive.

The opponent captured my capital just before the save, there were 10+ Archangels there. Nothing to counter them with. Kyrre is positioned for a jump into the center, which by size is quite decent, but I never found the time to finish the game. Capitulation.

Thanks for the game!
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Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Кайри / Kyrre Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Кайри / Kyrre Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Поражение / Lose Поражение / Lose
Инферно / Inferno Faction Инферно / Inferno
Пайра / Pyre Start Hero Пайра / Pyre
Крег Хак / Crag Hack Main Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack
Map Template
Mini-Nostalgia
Game Length
141 days
Game Date
6/26/2016
Reported
6/26/2016 3:11 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Chemist_HP 1489 1488 -1 ↓
Dave_HUN 1885 1886 +1 ↑
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 6/26/2016 4:30 PM

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The opponent surprised me a bit with their build featuring Knight and Sorceress, and stats around 20. But I had significantly more power. Thanks for the game!
ICQ 627769385
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Инферно / Inferno Faction Инферно / Inferno
Мариусса / Marius Start Hero Мариусса / Marius
Крег Хак / Crag Hack Main Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Кайри / Kyrre Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Кайри / Kyrre Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Map Template
Mini-Nostalgia
Game Length
147 days
Game Date
6/26/2016
Reported
6/26/2016 4:24 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Nitro 1757 1758 +1 ↑
Iamsamstan 1387 1386 -1 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 6/26/2016 4:39 PM

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I don't remember the details anymore, but here goes: on the first week I bought the uniques from the external dwelling, on the second I picked up 5 angels from 3 cons, on the third week I cleared all three of my treasure zones completely: the teapot, the KW, and the Dragon Fly Hive.

The opponent took my capital just before the save, with 10+ archs there. Nothing to counter them with. Kyrre is positioned for a jump into the center, which is quite decent in size, but I never found the time to finish the game. Capitulation.

Thanks for the game!
Good map,had 4 cons in starting area, my treasures were useless though. Luckily middle treasure compensated,got all air box there week 3, later all lvl4 box also,and good stats,crag developed nicely.
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Opponent slightly surprised me with aotd with Griffin Conservatory and stats around 20. But I had considerably more power. Thanks for the game!
Mininosta, attacking mininosta neither on my nor on the opponent's respawns were there any Dragon Fly Hives or Griffin Conservatories) somehow in the treasure sites, I scraped up something) ended up with 42 Wyverns) built a Citadel and went into Dragon Utopias, and there, wow, a full backpack of joy) Thanks for the game!
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Information

The first round has ended.
31 games have been completed.

A technical result has been recorded in 5 games:

Diabler def SVAROG (save file available; Diabler reported that Svarog has not been online since the 20th; no information received from the opponent)
The_ def korvet (opponent conceded due to lack of time to play)

And in three games, a mutual technical result has been recorded, as the game was not completed within the round's timeframe.
bubuch - Pyre
Dark - Noom
Amster - Browser

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