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Offline kcfgogbfalgfl
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Here, if a person has something to lose, and if they commit this act to save other people, as in the example of Sesame, it could be with spies...
So, this is the same as sacrificing oneself for one's faith.

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Offline Саня Изи
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Death is like general anesthesia; you won't understand anything anyway.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
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Guys, I'm writing from the afterlife, and it's totally awesome here. I recommend you kill yourselves as soon as possible.

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Offline Саня Изи
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writing from the afterlife

You must serve the Necromancers; we have enslaved you.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
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Offline Niemand
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Just a sec, I need to write my will first.
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Yuuhei
Let's say you live on the street, eat scraps, beg, and are beaten and abused by various people, while also suffering from all sorts of ailments, from daily diarrhea to something more serious. Who can be called strong: the one who continues to exist in such a situation, or the one who gathers the courage to end their life?
If you imagine someone else in such a situation, I think the one who manages to survive (survive, not just exist) in such an environment is stronger. But if you imagine yourself in such a situation... then in my case, religion would theoretically work – since I believe that in a new reincarnation, a person receives the problems they didn't solve in their past life, I don't see the point in running away from them. Theoretically. In practice, I'm not sure I'm strong enough for such trials.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Offline Niemand
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Revan, how did you manage to kill yourself – with a slipper or a broom? Which one is better?
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It would be better to jump off the cliff. After running a bit.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
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Offline Ment
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So, it's the same as blowing yourself up for your faith.
No. All sorts of idiot suicide bombers don't blow themselves up for someone, but against someone. They are trying to kill people, and they specifically choose not military personnel, but civilians, those who, by definition, will not harm anyone (although it is difficult to harm a terrorist, whatever you do to him, it can't get any worse). That is, they are not saving people, they are not even helping their fanatical group, but simply senselessly killing themselves and taking others with them, completely random people.
 

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Offline Niemand
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it's just pointless self-destruction
Not at all pointless – he filled his pockets with hexogen, blew himself up in the subway during rush hour, and went straight to the Seventh Heaven of the Prophet, with unlimited sherbet and houris. It's pure profit, everywhere you look.
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Indeed. Well, then it's not a "spy" scenario after all, because in their opinion, they will gain much more in the afterlife than they will lose in this life.
 

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Offline Sesame
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So, it's the same as sacrificing oneself for one's faith.
Here are a couple more examples:
1. From history: exchanging one's life for the happiness of one's family.
Considering the outstanding merits of the Field Marshal, he was given a choice between a People's Tribunal and suicide. On October 14, 1944, Rommel was forced to take potassium cyanide.
2. From science fiction: under the influence of some external force, astronauts begin to transform into monsters capable of destroying all inhabitants upon returning to their home planet. Before they completely transform and lose their human form and mind, they blow themselves up along with the spaceship.

Although it seems like there's a choice here, but it's a choice that leads to suicide.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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under the influence of some external force, the astronauts begin to transform into monsters capable of destroying all the inhabitants upon their return to their home planet
Into humans?
 

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