Which level 7 creature is the best, and why? — Polls

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Archangel

41.1% 101 votes

Phoenix

4.5% 11 votes

Black Dragon

24% 59 votes

Titan

13.4% 33 votes

Chaos Hydra

1.2% 3 votes

Ancient Behemoth

6.9% 17 votes

Golden Dragon

4.5% 11 votes

Archdevil

2.8% 7 votes

Spectral Dragon

1.6% 4 votes

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In reply to Лорелей

Timnk

5/13/2007 7:13 PM UTC

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Lorelei;89482

In my opinion, the most unpleasant creatures are Devils, due to their magic immunity.

In any battle, Devils, with their turn delay, can decide the outcome. They fly in, attack, and fly away, while Dragons will still take damage. Also, they have lower speed than Devils, and their own magic doesn't work on them, so it's unclear whether magic immunity is a plus or a minus.

In reply to Timnk

Лорелей

5/13/2007 7:45 PM UTC

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Timnk;89487

In any fight, devils, due to their delayed turn, can significantly influence the outcome – they swoop in, attack, and fly away, while dragons will still suffer, and their speed is also lower than that of devils + their own magic doesn't work either, so it's unclear whether it's immunity + or -.

They are easily blinded, and there are no problems.

In reply to Лорелей

Timnk

5/13/2007 7:49 PM UTC

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Lorelei;89507

They are easily blinded, and there are no problems.

Okay, we won't find the truth this way; we just need to keep trying.

In reply to Ley

LvS

5/14/2007 4:17 PM UTC

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Ley;89476

All of this is very easy to check (if, of course, without magic or any artifacts): create a small area of land in the editor (it must be sand!) and place monsters of level 7, for example, in groups of 1, 10, 100, and 1000; set the hero's defense and attack to 0 and go! In all these cases, Archangels won! The only thing to consider is that Phoenixes have twice the growth rate, and if you place twice as many of them, they will defeat everyone. You can check all this yourself if you're not too lazy... But personally, I like monsters the most, it's just a personal preference.

That's nonsense! Under these conditions, in 4 out of 5 cases, Behemoths with their -80% will defeat the Archangels!
But Phoenixes definitely rule, simply by overwhelming everyone with their numbers and speed! And then, of course, Archangels!

In reply to LvS

Uke-by_HoMM![Zавулон]

5/14/2007 6:25 PM UTC

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LvS;89731

That's nonsense! Under these conditions, in 4 out of 5 cases, Archons are defeated by Behemoths with their -80% attack! But, of course, Phoenixes rule by simply overwhelming everyone with their numbers and speed! And then, the Archons!

I don't know, I don't know. You came here to talk about practical application, so... Archons are more effective here! With the support of cavalry and other troops, and with the right tactics... They are invincible! We'll just end up in a stalemate, gentlemen! We need to consider a 1v1 scenario. And here, Behemoths rule... wait, stop! A Phoenix will defeat everyone))) there will be 2 of them

Добро- Не цель, а средство, Зло- Дорога к цели...
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lopetos

5/14/2007 6:39 PM UTC

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If I'm not mistaken, if there's only one Phoenix, it won't resurrect.

Клан"Yan-luo-Wan"
Зло как и добро имеет своих героев!!!

In reply to lopetos

Timnk

5/14/2007 8:36 PM UTC

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In my opinion, in a 1v1 matchup, Behemoths are the strongest due to their 80% armor reduction, but they take 2 hits from a Titan and clearly lose... And so we go around in circles, simply figuring out who beats whom and how... In my opinion, the developers deserve a beer for their balance! (I'm not considering upgrades here; Phoenixes can overwhelm with numbers, as can Necropolis on a complex and huge XL map).

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Хрофт

5/18/2007 9:26 PM UTC

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\{ЕК;59678

Dragons aren't the strongest, and magic immunity is a skill against a hero, not against creatures... but dragons are the third strongest after archangels and titans.

Has there ever been a situation in the game where an archangel fought a dragon or a titan one-on-one? In every case, heroes are dominant, and magic becomes the primary factor. You can achieve a lot with blindness or slowness; dragons are powerful. Comparing strength, speed, etc., is just statistics and doesn't really matter.

In reply to Хрофт

Мугайс

5/18/2007 9:39 PM UTC

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The Archangel is the coolest. And if a hero with good magic leads them, they become simply devastating. I once had Sir Mullich with a spell power of 20+, expert earth magic, and the "explosion" spell. His 15 Archangels cut down 30 Chaos Hydras, led by a Beastmaster with 16 defense. The loss was 2 Archangels.

Подмосковный рейнджер, не ведающий стаха

In reply to Мугайс

Darth Saruman

5/18/2007 10:05 PM UTC

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Titans shouldn’t be underestimated either… especially with the “Blink” skill!))

Сила Тьмы - в бессилии света.
Нет невежества - есть Знание

In reply to LvS

Ley

5/19/2007 5:02 AM UTC

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LvS;89731

This is nonsense! Under these conditions, in 4 out of 5 cases, Behemoths will defeat Archons due to their -80% attack! But Phoenixes are definitely the best, simply overwhelming everyone with their numbers and speed! And then, of course, Archons!

I already said, if you're not lazy, test it in the editor! Even 1000 vs. 1000, Archons will defeat Behemoths! Have you seen their stats? Their defense is almost twice as low as Archons, and their attack is also lower. And those 80% would only work if the heroes have the same defense parameters (at least 13).

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

In reply to Ley

Darth Saruman

5/19/2007 12:30 PM UTC

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Ley;90732

I already said, if it's not too much trouble, add it in the editor!!! Even 1000x1000 archers beat behemoths! Have you seen their stats? - Their defense is almost twice as low as that of archangels, and their attack is also lower. And those 80% would only work if the heroes have the same defense stats (at least 13).

but in practice, it turns out the opposite... especially in tournaments.

Сила Тьмы - в бессилии света.
Нет невежества - есть Знание

In reply to Darth Saruman

Ley

5/20/2007 8:35 AM UTC

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Darth Saruman;90803

but in practice, it turns out to be the opposite... especially in tournaments)

In practice, you can defeat anyone, even with Bone Dragons! It all depends on different game situations – sometimes one strategy is more effective, and sometimes another. Don't you agree? Even if you look at the regular ranking in Heroes III, Archangels are in the top spot, and that's hard to argue with. Although the ranking itself has some uncertainty...

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."