Mafia 102. Veliria — Mafia

softbank

4/3/2016 9:08 AM UTC

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Evil Lizard

I think everyone understands who the complaints are directed at. By the way, won't you tell us what substances you were taking on day 1 and night 2?:smile51: Maybe you're a clone of Dag, aren't you?

And what substances? The first kill was just to test the version of the evidence. As it turned out, Jaconda didn't need to be killed. Well, I made a mistake in the end.

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Злобный Ящур

4/3/2016 11:26 AM UTC

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softbank

What substances?

I'm asking you. :smile29:

softbank

The first kill was to test the version of the evidence.

What should a gunner do? Correct, eliminate the negatives, not "check the evidence." Only a maniac can afford to kill someone "for testing"... Jaconda was 100% negative for you. Why didn't you go kill her?

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

Ment

4/3/2016 11:33 AM UTC

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I support Yashur. It is very important to receive information during the day – nighttime kills say almost nothing about player psychology. This is not a replacement for executions! It is a way to eliminate 98-100% of negative behavior! There should not be kills for information gathering. During the day, when you can observe player behavior, you can execute them for information.

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Злобный Ящур

4/3/2016 12:37 PM UTC

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By the way, I wanted to ask some people here... Blocking someone by their nickname is bad, the player is revealed, and that's it. But exposing a Mafia member or someone else by blocking them – is that good?

P.S. And still, the Mafia member was weak. At least like Koshi, he should have the option to choose between kills with ignore protection or without it, and without eating protection is also not good. They could have eliminated him in the first night...

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By the way, I completely forgot...
Thank you, comrade Fragment, for taking the Mafia role away from me.:D

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

KindShaman

4/3/2016 12:38 PM UTC

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Well, they took out that cultist with two shots! It was like they planned it. By the way, the Mafia didn't immediately realize who they had blocked. And if the block had been revealed, all the Mafia would have been exposed as not being the murderer, and you would have been exposed as the murderer to everyone, so...

Драккошка

4/3/2016 12:48 PM UTC

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And the madman is useful to the city.

А, вот почему.

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Злобный Ящур

4/3/2016 12:52 PM UTC

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KindShaman

Well, they took out the cultist with two stray bullets. It was like they planned it.

Well, the guy just had bad luck. Oh, what was I saying? It was a well-thought-out move by the Mafia and the Maniac, who figured out who the cultist was even before the roles were assigned and decided to eliminate him because he wasn't beneficial to any of them. :D:D:D Right, Arandor?

KindShaman

Actually, the Mafia didn't immediately realize who they had blocked.

Really?

KindShaman

And if the block had been revealed, all the Mafia would have been exposed as not being the Maniac.

What do you mean?

KindShaman

And you would have been exposed as the Maniac to everyone, so...

I've long understood that a Maniac who is exposed to everyone is better than a Maniac who is only exposed to the Mafia. :D Of course, no one would have rushed to defend me, but as we can see, it wouldn't have made much of a difference. :( In any case, there were two people blocked, plus there were other possibilities. So, I wasn't 100% the Maniac.

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KindShaman

Actually, the Mafia didn't immediately realize who they had blocked.

And I thought they all rushed to accuse Uran, fearing that I would kill them all if they were exposed. :D Just like in '89.

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

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softbank

4/3/2016 1:03 PM UTC

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Evil Lizard

That's what I'm asking you.:smile29:

What should a gunslinger do? Correct, eliminate the negatives, not "investigate." A maniac can afford to kill someone "for investigation"... Jaconda was 100% a negative for you. Why didn't you go kill her?

lol, I already wrote that she wasn't mafia, and based on the evidence, she could have been mafia.

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Злобный Ящур

4/3/2016 1:13 PM UTC

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softbank

lol, I wrote that she wasn't Mafia, but based on the clue, she could have been.

1. If she "wasn't Mafia," why didn't she join Guru and start campaigning for her innocence?
2. A maniac or cultist capable of "taking apart half the city" – isn't that a reason to eliminate them? When answering, please consider that this was at the beginning of the game, not on day 3, when you couldn't vote out the cultist anymore.

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

KindShaman

4/3/2016 1:15 PM UTC

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To all the noble lords of Valyria, let us part in peace).

Злобный Ящур

4/3/2016 1:20 PM UTC

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No way... We really need to find the source of the evil that's preventing the city from playing properly. Otherwise, it will always be a question of "will the Mafia win without any losses, or not?" :smile51:

For example, "not trusting Yashchur" is now an axiom, beyond any doubt, right?

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

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softbank

4/3/2016 1:21 PM UTC

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Evil Lizard

1. If it "wasn't a cultist," then why didn't it join Guru and start campaigning for her cause?
2. A maniac or cultist capable of "tearing half the city apart" is not a reason for elimination? When answering, please consider that this was at the beginning of the game, not the 3rd day, when the cultist could no longer be eliminated. ;)

Just to clarify, I didn't know that the cult had won the game because of the missed shot at Jaconda... :smile51:

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Злобный Ящур

4/3/2016 1:22 PM UTC

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softbank

just so you know, I didn't realize that the Dungeon faction won the game because they failed to attack Jaconda... :smile51:

Huh...:confused:

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softbank

4/3/2016 1:34 PM UTC

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Evil Lizard

Ehh...:confused:

I mean that the mafia was the priority, which ultimately won, and yes, it's a pity that the clue was incorrect, but the theory was definitely not bad.

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Злобный Ящур

4/3/2016 1:50 PM UTC

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softbank

I'm saying that the Mafia was the priority, which is why they won, and yes, it's a shame that the clue was incorrect, but the theory was definitely not bad.

And I'm saying that clues don't provide the same guarantee as facts. And that's what you had the "pleasure" of realizing. And yes, the Mafia doesn't have a "priority" at the beginning of the game when the town is still relatively large. It's only when there are roughly the same number of Mafia and townspeople that they do. However, it seems pointless to try to prove anything... After all, I'm the maniac, and "you can't trust a maniac"...

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).