Posts from Balance in Heroes 5.

I read this thread and disagreed with many points!
I can't express everything, but!
Some people said that there was no balance in Heroes 3, but only those who didn't fully play Heroes 3 could say that.
Patches improve a lot, but initially, Heroes 5 has an imbalance.
I waited a very long time for Heroes 5, and unfortunately, after waiting, I could only play it now that I have a decent computer. Maybe I'm a novice in Heroes 5... but I played Heroes 3 thoroughly;) the balance in it is better than in Heroes 5.

I voted for the terrible balance! Because: Let's take two factions, Warlocks and Sylvan. The first has a level 2 unit: Gargoyle - which is a flying absurdity. It moves slowly and has weak attack. The only plus is its defense. The second has a level 1 unit: Sprite. After upgrading, it already has good spells. It has fast movement and higher attack. Draw your own conclusions!

Heroes 5 incorporated a lot from the third game, a little from the fourth, but also introduced many new features, and all the factions were reworked. The developers faced a challenge, but the balance in this game is very well done. Here, it's very important to develop your hero correctly in terms of skills. In the third game, this was also taken into account, but it didn't have such a significant impact on the rest of the game. In the third game, the main skills of the hero were the most important. And many spells in the third Heroes game created a significant imbalance. For example, if someone got teleport, or even better, teleport to a Castle (there is also such a spell in the fifth Heroes game, but in the third, you could also choose which Castle to teleport to), and you didn't have these spells, you were at a disadvantage. In the fifth Heroes game, this doesn't happen - excellent balance.

Well- I don't know!
I agree, in the third one there was a certain element of luck related to spells ETC... but that was simultaneously exciting. And the races themselves, as it seems to me, were excellently balanced, and all the pros of each equally covered all the cons... but in the 5th, with its variations, like Training, Avengers, artifact creation, - they went too far!!!
Interesting, beautiful, clever - BUT THEY WENT TOO FAR!!!

How can we even talk about balance in games played by humans? Perfect balance can only be observed in a battle between two absolutely equal computers. Humans are individuals, so there will never be any real balance, anywhere, in anything. In my opinion, the strongest, most cunning, and most inventive always wins. A race is just a tool; everything else depends on the human on the other side of the screen. So, talking about balance is nonsense.
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I voted for the terrible balance! Because: Let's take two factions, Sorceress and Elves. The first, at level 2, has a Gargoyle - it's a flying absurdity. It moves slowly, and its attack is weak. The only plus is its defense. The second, at level 1, has a Fairy. After upgrading, it already has good spells. It moves quickly and has a higher attack. Draw your own conclusions!

Let me try to prove you wrong with your own example – imagine you are a lumberjack master. So, you have a competition with another lumberjack, a complete novice. But he has an incredibly sharp axe, while yours is as dull as a log. And who will cut down more trees with all their skill?…

In your example, the competition should be held not in chopping wood, but between these lumberjacks, i.e., who can defeat whom. And how do you think, who will win, a fool with a sharp axe or a master, even if he fights with his bare hands?

Well, I think that eXeCuToR was talking about a duel between equally skilled masters, but who are not in equal conditions. But again, I want to say that the balance in Heroes is such that in most cases, the stronger one should really win, even if his axe is a little duller! So, here you, ICE, are right!

You are right, the balance is terrible, but in the opposite direction.:smile40:
Because the Mage faction will crush any faction, and especially the Elves. The only faction that can resist them is the Necromancer. You say Gargoyles are weak? What if an enemy hero arrives on the 3rd week with 40 Gargoyles and Armageddon? Will you fight them with your super-duper fairies? It's best not to argue against Mages; it's a very strong faction. No other faction has a faster development rate than them.
I would also like to add that this is not just my personal opinion; it is the opinion of many players, most of the Heroes players I know.:cool: