Mafia 102. Veliria — Mafia

Uranium235

3/28/2016 8:18 AM UTC

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Jaconda

Who should we vote for?

I won't vote for you, so that neither Yashur nor Fragment can suspect anything. But Softbank is ready; he has some strange theories that the Master planted evidence against Heroist, and therefore he is Mafia, although it's obvious that the Master is not Mafia because the Mafia killed him.

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Jaconda, do you have any guesses about who is Mafia? Or who is most likely peaceful?

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Джаконда

3/28/2016 8:37 AM UTC

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Uranium235

I won't vote for anyone, so that neither Yaschur nor Fragment suspect me. But Softbank is ready; he has some strange theories that the Master planted evidence against Heroist, and therefore he's Mafia, although it's obvious that the Master isn't Mafia because the Mafia was killing him.

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Jaconda, do you have any guesses about who among us is Mafia? Or who is most likely innocent?

As far as I understand, in this game, the Mafia can simply send Night DMs. But in general, it's more of a guessing game, and my clues turned out to be useless; I didn't even try on the second night.
Who is Gur? I don't remember him at all. I would vote for him.

softbank

3/28/2016 8:46 AM UTC

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What are you talking about? When did I say that the Mafia Master was the one? I assumed that the Mafia might try to frame the Hero, but I didn't call the Master a Mafia member, or did the Mafia decide to kill him themselves???

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Jaconda, who do you think you'll be guessing about on the second night? Well, if you were trying...

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Джаконда

3/28/2016 8:49 AM UTC

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softbank

What are you talking about? When did I say that the moderator was Mafia? I suggested that the Mafia might try to frame Heroist, but I didn't call the moderator Mafia, or did the Mafia decide to kill him themselves???

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Jaconda, who do you think you'll investigate on the second night? If you were trying to...

and why was the question about Gura skipped?
It's highlighted in italics, some kind of film director, right? If I understand the clues correctly.

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Uranium235

3/28/2016 8:52 AM UTC

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Jaconda

As far as I understand, in this Mafia game, you can simply send an investigation. But it's not really Mafia; it's more like a guessing game. I failed to find any clues, and I didn't even try on the second night.
Who is Gur? I don't remember him at all. I would vote to eliminate him.

There's no need to try to guess the clue on the second night because it points to a town role.
Gur usually plays like this, even as a townie. On the first day, he could have been eliminated as inactive because there's no information from him. But now, I'm not even sure... If we eliminate a townie, things will be very bad. At night, the serial killer eliminates one townie, and the Mafia eliminates another. There will be 11 players left, 5 of whom are Mafia. And the cat has no votes...
Should we hope that the doctor/Sharp/cat will be protected, or that the serial killer/Swift will be eliminated/blocked by the Mafia? These are all unlikely events. We need to eliminate a Mafia member right now.

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softbank

Excuse me? When did I say that the master was Mafia? I suggested that the Mafia might have tried to frame the Heroist, but I didn't say that the master was Mafia, or that the Mafia decided to eliminate him.

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Jaconda, who do you think you would investigate on the second night? If you were to try, that is.

Excellent. Let's assume your assumption is correct. Who "framed" the Heroist?

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Джаконда

3/28/2016 9:06 AM UTC

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Uranium235

For the second night, there’s no need to try and guess the clue, because it points to a town resident.
Gur seems to always play this way, even with peaceful players. On the first day, he could still be eliminated as an inactive player because there is no information from him. But now, I’m not even sure... If we eliminate a peaceful player, things will be very bad. At night, the killer eliminates one peaceful player, and the mafia eliminates another. There will be 11 players left, 5 of whom are mafia. And the cat has no votes...
Should we hope that the doctor/Sharp/cat will be protected, or that the killer/Swift will be eliminated/blocked by the mafia? These are all unlikely events. We need to eliminate a mafia member right now.

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Great. Let’s assume your assumption is correct. Who “planted” the clues on Heroist?

Then I will probably choose between Gur and Uranium for the vote. You don’t seem like a peaceful player right now. By the way, yes, who “planted” the clues on Heroist? Who actually planted them? And there is also the concept of “started developing” [a player]. What do you think about Nicolego?

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Uranium235

3/28/2016 9:22 AM UTC

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Jaconda

Well, then I'll probably choose between Gur and Uranium in the evening. You're not quite at that level yet. By the way, yes, who "planted" the evidence against Heroist? And who actually planted it? And there's also the concept of "started developing." What do you think about Nicolego?

The investigator was trying to find evidence, and you were trying to accuse Heroist through some links. But you ignored my question about the exact transitions. However, Master found them, although not very successfully. Fragment was throwing in something about Lotus, but Dag found some kind of transition to Lotus. Did he find it himself? I looked, and the feedback there is poor.
What does "started developing" mean? Tell me about this concept.

Nicolego voted for you at a time when he could have voted to eliminate Heroist. I would look at his current position to see if he wants to vote to eliminate you again. Then I can say with more confidence.

Nicolego, are you going to vote to eliminate Jaconda today?

Ment

3/28/2016 9:56 AM UTC

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Yes, I was a pioneer.
Jaconda, and you should keep in mind that the solution for Uranus, through the rose, is also most likely incorrect. It's not an alibi, of course, but still...

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Arandor

3/28/2016 10:02 AM UTC

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uranium defenders

Be strong. Believe

Злобный Ящур

3/28/2016 10:36 AM UTC

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Uran, tell me, will YOU be hanging Redhead?:smile08:

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softbank

Well, if we're talking about sunflowers, then in Samurai Champloo they were looking for a samurai who smelled like sunflowers.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9_%D0%A7%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%BB%D1%83

Jin and Mugen are pondering that they have no clues about who this samurai who smells like sunflowers is (c)
and this is much closer to the truth than just an anime about sunflowers, at least there is a connection to a samurai.
Moreover, this search for this samurai is essentially key to the plot; Jin and Mugen helped the main character search for him throughout the anime.

All of this is great, of course, but here's a specific question: Are you going to hang Redhead or not?:smile04: Since you acknowledged the connection between sunflowers and the samurai.

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Uran, Redhead, what's with you two being so quiet?:D

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Ment

3/28/2016 10:37 AM UTC

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Remind me, Yashchur, what else is there against Ruddy, besides sunflowers?

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Nikolego

3/28/2016 10:39 AM UTC

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Based on the night phase, I see a very clear indication that the Master is the Mafia. The Master suspected Jaconda during the day, but ultimately switched his vote to Heroist based on the evidence. I see it this way: if Jaconda is Mafia, they killed the Master to prevent the risk of him returning his suspicions to Jaconda. Plus, they could have targeted Heroist during the day and sent the night kill to Jaconda. Since the Master, according to the newspaper, is a Noble, the Mafia's fears were justified – among the many Noble roles, there are Mafia killers. For example, Henri.
Jaconda is still under suspicion – only the connection with the Master has changed, who probably correctly deciphered the day phase poll regarding Jaconda and her Mafia affiliation.

Злобный Ящур

3/28/2016 10:40 AM UTC

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There were also samurai, onimé, and prototypes.

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

Uranium235

3/28/2016 10:41 AM UTC

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As a mafia member who wasn't even present on the first day, and therefore didn't have the chance to convince Heroist to vote for Ruddy, why didn't he do it? Because of this, Snowman could also be voted for...
There was also Arandor, but I understand that his voice was NNV, and I was just too lazy to bother with the formatting.
Softbank and Fragment were in the loop, but for some reason, they didn't want to vote.
This isn't really indicative of a mafia member; Heroist didn't vote either.

Ruddy, what do you think about voting for me, Drakkosha, Arandor, Dag, Softbank, and Jakonda? (These are the ones who have already been mentioned as candidates, if that's relevant).