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What shall we name the establishment?
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“Flooding.” Simple and effective
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Leave it as is – “Fludnyak”
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“A den of debauchery.” How original!
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Brewery
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#55795
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No. And even if instead of two million, there were 2 quintillion euros, the answer would still be no.
Give it another couple of years, and you won't be so categorical.

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Regarding the initial question: in my current state (i.e., almost healthy and financially secure, relying on my ancestors) and in the state I will likely be in seven years (when I will have a free bed in the barracks and free food, plus some kind of salary), the answer is no. What would I need the money for? What would I spend it on? But if I found myself in a completely hopeless situation (disability, unemployment, homelessness), I would press the button without a doubt. So, the essence of that answer is that I do not deny the possibility of pressing it under certain conditions.
E si sui vius, er mi grans benananza,
e si ieu muoir, er mi grans deliuriers
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#55797
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One way or another, the issue of deception is not considered here, and the central topic of discussion is the moral dilemma. In the first case, life as a whole is not very fair. Some are unlucky to be born into a poor family, some are unlucky to be hit by a car, some are unlucky to get sick with some nasty diseases, some are unlucky to die in a war they didn't need, and some are unlucky to "die because of a button" in exchange for someone else's well-being. In the second scenario, it's one not-so-pleasant day in exchange for the opportunity to improve one's health, live comfortably for many years to come, and get most of what reality has to offer without any effort.

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#55798
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in this sense, I am a pessimist and do not believe that easy money will be beneficial, but rather will slip through one's fingers or, even worse, harm the new owner. Although, I sometimes play the lottery myself, hoping for a jackpot.)
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But if I found myself at the very bottom, in a hopeless situation (disability, unemployment, homelessness), I would press the button without a doubt. That is, the essence of that answer is that I do not deny the possibility of pressing it under certain conditions.
That's true. It's easy to talk about morality when you live relatively well. But morality is a luxury for the poor. It's strange, however, that in this case, you deny the possibility of receiving 2 million (which, in my opinion, is a less immoral way).
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
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#55799
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At the very least, I have more reasons to kill a person who is trying to manipulate me than some random stranger.
The point is:
1) The person has no proof of their words. How will they prove that their promise isn't a lie? Will they point to a random passerby and have them die?
2) If a person possesses such abilities, how can you know that they won't kill you if you happen to choose a "third option"?
3) How can you be sure that the person isn't a higher being, testing people?
4) How can you be certain that killing this person will go unpunished? How can you be sure that you'll be able to pocket their money (they might have transferred it to a bank account)?
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#55800
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In general, if everything is really as described, without any deception or negative consequences, then I'll click. Five hundred times. I've encountered this question many times, and my opinion hasn't changed after considering it. That's how it is.

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#55801
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In general, if everything is really as it seems, without any deception or consequences, then I'll click. Five hundred times. I've encountered this question many times, and my opinion hasn't changed after considering it. That's how it is.

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In Ment's eyes, I am such a repulsive and degraded person that my words are not even worth being surprised about...
Not at all. I'm not surprised because I've long lost track of your train of thought. But I am surprised by Alex, because he portrays himself as such a moral guy, and yet there's something so unexpected about him, haha.
The point is:
1) The person has no proof of their words. How can they prove that their promise isn't a hoax? Will they point to a random passerby and have them die?
2) If a person possesses such abilities, how can you know that they won't kill you if you choose a "third option"?
3) How can you know that the person isn't actually a higher being, testing people?
4) How can you be sure that killing this person will go unpunished? How can you be sure that you'll be able to pocket their money (they might transfer it to a bank account)?
Actually, I was mostly joking. I wouldn't kill anyone, by any means (buttons or no buttons), for any reason (except in truly hopeless situations). But for a certain type of person, I find the option quite appealing; it's a kind of social justice. After all, this person with the button, if you refuse them, might go on to ask other people. And if you know for sure that they're not crazy, and everything is real... someone will eventually press the button, and the person will die. Isn't it better to stop this situation at the root, in advance? And a million dollars is almost like not a robbery, but a fair reward for eliminating a particularly dangerous criminal. Well, and if it turns out that he can't be killed, or if there's punishment afterward, well, at least he'll feel like a real hero before he dies x) Worth it.
 

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#55803
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A million dollars is no longer considered robbery, but rather a fair reward for eliminating a particularly dangerous criminal.
"This isn't even murder, it's just vigilante justice"? x)
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Regarding the first point – I doubt it. I believe in karma. The second point – it depends on the guy. If he's young, cute, and interesting to talk to, and if he then acts like a decent person and marries me after everything that happened between us, then why would I need those two million?
А, вот почему.

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#55806
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Seriously... Who am I sharing a forum with?

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#55807
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So here’s a scenario for you. A person gives you a button and says, "If you press this, I will give you a million dollars. However, pressing this button will kill a person you have never met. No one will know that you caused their death, and you will never know who you killed. The button will be destroyed upon pressing it, and no evidence of its existence will be left behind." Would you do it? I wouldn't; I can't justify murder, even if I don't know the person.
Basically, there are no consequences. No one can prove anything. The only consequence is what you bring on yourself.
By the way, this is a scenario from a rather bad movie, The Box.
I would press the button, by the way.
Menti
I'm leaning towards the option of "killing the person with the button and taking my honest million dollars."
Oh, this Menti, the death of an unknown person from a distance doesn't satisfy him; he must kill himself.
Sezamchik
I wonder, what if he said, "Sleep with a guy for 2 million, and no one will ever know about it"? Would your and Alex's answers be the same? )
Well, I won't speak for them, but my answer would change because I would have to experience the physical sensations that I never intend to experience.
Sezamchik
I don't believe that easy money will be beneficial; instead, it will slip through your fingers or, even worse, harm the new owner.
Of course, it's from the devil! That's what they say on TV.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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But the reward...
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#55809
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Well, Kosha, you understand that in your case, the question will be about spending time with a lesbian. What if she later, as an honest person, wants to marry you? :rolleyes:
Ple-Sen
The point is:
1) The person has no proof of their words. How will they prove that their promise isn't a lie? Will they point to a random passerby and that person will die?
2) If a person possesses such abilities, how can you know that they won't kill you if you have the idea of choosing a "third option"?
3) How can you know that the person isn't a higher being, testing people?
4) How can you be sure that killing this person will go unpunished? How can you be sure that you'll be able to pocket their money (they might transfer it to a bank account)?
2. You yourself chose the "third option," so... well, you get it ;) - it's impossible to predict what a person (or, even more so, a non-person from point 3) will do with such a choice, so there's nothing to talk about.
4. There's no such certainty. However, there's also no certainty that I will act exactly like that, but the probability exists. Simply "because I want to."
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.