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#513
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- What are you staring at? Standing around, catching flies. What kind of guard are you?! The enemies will pass by, and you won't even notice! - Let them pass, what do I care? I said from the beginning that I don't want to be on duty. And besides, why don't you go away! I'm dealing with air defense here, - said WishmasteR, waving away his interlocutor.
Hmm, what is this? Belonging to a faction, status, or weapon? Not a weapon, I suppose. Although, even with these two answers, it's clear that Wish is neither Li nor Cain. So, "Conan the Barbarian" and "year 98" don't apply to him.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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#514
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Or should the first question be about non-damage skills (like healing), and the second about the availability of weapons? I haven't decided yet.
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The answer to the second question is the following night (thanks, Master). That is, Yashura was infected on the 2nd night. I'm starting to think that Sesame is right, and the ultimate ability in the form of infection from the maniac to Rick happened.
But this doesn't negate the fact that Lyuska infected someone on the first night. Either this someone was cured of the infection by the doctor (then where is our fact of successful treatment? She infected the same person as Zero, and they both got cured immediately?)
or it was the Heroist (but then the Heroist isn't Crow, because Crow would send Lyuska),
or he doesn't have protection against infection, but at the same time, he has enough actions/abilities to last 3 nights (this could be Mann, who didn't have protection against infection but received it as a result of recruitment, and this could be Lee, whose protection was removed before the infection).
According to the newspaper, it seems like there was a double hit: first, Lyusya-Infection visited the guy, then Zero bit him, and then the Doc cured someone. If Arandor were playing with us, I would say it was him. He likes night visitors :) But now, I don't even know.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Yeah... what is it, anyway?
Affiliation, status, or weapon?
Not a weapon, I guess.

Even with just two possible answers, it's clear that Vish isn't Lee or Kane. So "Conan the Barbarian" and "year 98" don't apply to him.
Or, the first question is about ND type (i), and the second is about having a weapon? I haven't decided yet.
That's exactly the issue. The most elegant explanation for the first question is the presence of checks. For the second, it's the presence of kills. But these interpretations are incompatible, and what are we supposed to do...?
 

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Or is the first question about the type of Neutral Dwelling (ND) – (i), and the second about the presence of weapons? I haven't decided yet.
I still think that the second question is about the type of ND "U". It is more informative than the question about the presence of weapons. And the old woman with the questions is really getting into it :) and she probably doesn't ask random questions.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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#518
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If that's the case, Sesama, then...
Probably, the question is in the style of "Are you sane?" -- "No." Because maybe there's a reason why it "hatched" and why I'm "engaging in air defense." I used to think the second one was just a lingering effect from the Rastaman, but maybe it's actually important for understanding the question.
 

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#519
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Okay, let's assume:
First question. Are you a negative character? - Yes
Second. Do you have a non-damage ability? - No
Third. Does your name contain the letter "P"? - Yes.

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If the first answer is false:
Nancy DaRk (it seems like a tactical maneuver involves throwing a spear and harassing an old woman). Doesn't fit.
Ru (no)
CoRnelius (fits)
FaRmer (fits)
Ricci (fits)
Nyura (an old woman doesn't question herself, I already understand that)

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False for the second - only Ru fits
False for the third. No options Corrected

It turns out it's not very informative, maybe the first question is different. And the second one might be too.
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#520
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Lying on the 3rd. Kane, zero, maniac. (Unless there's a block).
Hmm, did you miss the particle "not" here? They all have the ND "U" type.

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However, I might be wrong, of course.
But I won't condemn Visha just yet.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Yes, I didn't miss anything.
With this approach, a lie on the 3rd condition is impossible.

Another option.
1. Does the character have actions of type (I)? no
2. Does the character have a weapon? no
3. Does the character's name contain the letter R? yes

Lie on the first:
Nancy Dark (has many actions (I), has a weapon). doesn't fit
Ru (has an action and a weapon) doesn't fit
Cornelius (doesn't have a weapon) fits
Farmer (doesn't have actions (I)) doesn't fit
Ricci (doesn't have actions (I)) doesn't fit

Lie on the second:
Nancy Dark doesn't fit
Ru doesn't fit
Cornelius (doesn't have a weapon) doesn't fit
Farmer (doesn't have actions (I)) fits
Ricci (doesn't have actions (I)) fits

Lie on the third:
Naric fits, but then it will block itself
Kane doesn't fit
Doctor doesn't fit
Levi fits
Zero fits
Maniac doesn't fit

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Option 3.
1. Is the character mentally ill? yes
2. Does the character have an Nd-type ability (U)? no
3. Does the character's name contain the letter R? yes

Lie on the first:
Nancy Dark (has U) doesn't fit
Ru (has U) doesn't fit
Cornelius fits
Farmer fits
Ricci fits

Lie on the second: (impossible, there are no mentally ill characters here)
Nancy Dark doesn't fit
Ru doesn't fit
Cornelius doesn't fit
Farmer doesn't fit
Ricci doesn't fit

Lie on the third:

Naric fits, but it will block itself
Kane doesn't fit
Doctor doesn't fit
Levi doesn't fit
Zero doesn't fit
Maniac doesn't fit

Roles 12 and 13 are the old woman and Li, who don't fit in any case.
But I assume that the words "doctor" and "rastaman" are also part of the name. I assumed that they were not.
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#522
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In short, no matter how you look at it, Vish is our world. Almost certainly, right?
I think we can end it here.
 

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If I haven't made a mistake, then yes, it's very likely a world.
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#524
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So, it’s good that they didn’t hang him yesterday. But who are we going to hang now?
А, вот почему.

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#526
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If Kane was infected on the first night, he will die on the second night, unless he was infected twice that night, cured, and then recruited. Too many coincidences, in my opinion. Jen Li definitely wasn't infected, because on the first night, nothing could have removed her protection before Lucy was infected. I'm leaning towards the fact that the Maniac was infected. And his ultimate ability used on Rick on the second night with the infection is like an impudent gesture towards the town, which deprived him of his chances of winning on the first night. Who could have done that? I suspect Drakko. I'm not sure, but if the Maniac is really infected, it's not that important anymore. Let's think about why, of all the negative actions this night, only Kane's actions are visible.
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Here's what the recruited players look like now:
Order - Ru (features: two actions per night, protection against physical attacks; special ability: surveillance (type of special ability), protection against infection).
Infected - Max Kane (features: two actions per night, immune to block and isolation; special ability: block, weapon type check)
In my opinion, the negatives acted like this tonight:
Order - Jen Li recruits, Ru monitors and protects the leader.
Zombies - Zero recruits, Kane blocks and kills with his ultimate.
We were lucky that the recruitments were unsuccessful.
The Maniac could have been stunned by Rick, or blocked. Or, if we assume that he is infected, he had already used up both of his attacks by that point. But then, in theory, he should have used his recharged date ability, which he didn't. So, either the Maniac gave up on the game, realizing that he was doomed, and didn't send his special ability, or he was blocked/stunned.
I think that the infected Yaschur used his ultimate first, so with his last action, he stunned the Kosha-maniac.

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Oh, and he could have also relied on his inherent defense.
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Yeah, I really messed up this time... But now I definitely know who isn't infected.

My suspicion about Vishmaster seems to be wrong. So, I'm even more inclined to believe that Fragment correctly guessed Alex's role. I need to think more about the other two. I guess there's no point in trying to guess Lusia's role; it would just make things easier for the Mafia.