Posts from CIS 2016

The first viewing in St. Petersburg turned out to be disappointing; the place didn't impress us. Now we have a couple more options lined up, and we'll go for more viewings early next week.

I'd like to share my opinion on the matter. I should mention that I have a personal interest – I would go to St. Petersburg, but I'm unlikely to go to Sochi. However, I'm not the only one who feels this way; I estimate that about half of the participants share this opinion. On the other hand, those who would go to Sochi will probably also go to St. Petersburg. Now, let's move on. The obvious advantages of Sochi are the sea and the climate, that's true! But firstly, it's early May, and it's still uncertain what the temperature will be, including the water temperature. So, the main advantage might only be for thrill-seekers. But even if the weather turns out to be perfect, you'll only be able to enjoy it during the free time between Heroes, poker, and drinking, which is unlikely to exceed 10-15% of the total time. Is it worth traveling for that? If you want to go on vacation, that's a different story, but this is an event, a collective one, and even a cyber sports event! Now, let's consider the obvious disadvantages, specifically in terms of the event: 1. Schedule The venue is a state-owned facility, and the group will have to adhere to a certain schedule, which is unknown for now, but following it may traditionally cause discomfort and inconvenience. 2. Logistical problems Everyone knows how to get to Sochi. There are only a few people for whom it is more convenient to go to Sochi than to St. Petersburg (if there are any at all). There are various oddities happening with air travel, and it is unknown what will happen in half a year, but it will definitely not be cheaper. 3. A sensitive topic – the internet.

On the ground floors of the lobbies of the buildings, access to the internet (wi-fi) is provided.

I assume that there is no internet in other places? And again, will the championship be without broadcasts? Or can the internet (not necessarily of good quality) be found in the "assembly hall," for which you will traditionally have to pay a considerable amount? In my opinion, this is not the best use of the funds (and where this money can be invested for mutual benefit, along with the money saved on travel, will be discussed below). Yes, additional services such as saunas, billiards, and other things also cost money at state prices? But these are minor details... Now, let's move on to St. Petersburg. There is only the Baltic Sea there, but otherwise, there are no disadvantages of Sochi. I hope that Zmey and Roma will be able to come up with a version (or versions) of a delicious meal, and we will be the ones to evaluate them. One thing is certain: in the rented premises, the owners will be us during the event, and not some administration with a very likely Soviet mindset. In addition, in St. Petersburg, you can always include the availability of adequate internet at the venue in the search criteria. In the worst case, you can set up a broadcast using the "capture the image from TV via a local network (not via the internet) to a commentator's laptop, sitting in a separate soundproof room, and then distribute it via 4G," which will guarantee a good quality. In St. Petersburg, you can always find an operator with a suitable tariff plan, but this may not be the case in Sochi, as well as the time to test and configure it, in which I am even personally ready to participate! But, in the end, there should be a CIS with normal broadcasts, and not with episodic parodies of them. And now, the most important thing: WHERE TO INVEST THE MONEY SAVED ON SOCHI (or at least a significant part of it) The HotA team has given us the long-awaited miracle – simultaneous turn! :smile20: :smile54: It is still being refined, and judging by the frequency of updates, by the time of the event, if there are any bugs left, they will only be exotic and rare. So, simultaneous turn is undoubtedly a gift from the gods for this event and for all subsequent similar tournaments. Unfortunately, simultaneous turn is currently only in HotA, which is unlikely to appeal to all participants of the event. I assume that this may be done for political reasons – to promote HotA. But HW has done more for the promotion of HotA than everything else combined! And intends to continue promoting it, in various formats. But, to be honest, given the current state of the project and the community's attitude, I don't see how HotA can compete with SoD, especially in major tournaments. In this regard, I have 2 questions – to the HotA team and to the community (especially this applies to potential visitors to the event, as well as those who like to play for stakes). 1. Is it possible to implement simultaneous turn in SoD, and how much time will it take if simultaneous turn is already debugged in HotA? 2. How much money are you personally willing to donate to implement simultaneous turn in SoD? For players in Heroes, what percentage of your winnings are you willing to contribute to the same goals? After all, as they say, "time is the most valuable thing we have"

I don't want to go into details just yet; the options I've looked at didn't meet certain criteria. On Saturday, we're going to see two more places, and after that, I'll write a more detailed post.

Rom, how can I possibly go to the cottage with you after seeing your avatar? ))))))

Regarding OH (even in a perfectly polished form and implemented into SoD), I would say it's a good safety net for those who sleep in or are late to the game. But making it mandatory is not great; quite often you want to make moves, chat during your opponent's turn.

Regarding the Online Hall (even in a perfectly refined and implemented version within the SoD), I would say that it's a good safety net for those who play casually and those who join late. But making it mandatory is not ideal, as it often leads to wanting to just move around the map and chat with opponents.

Just wait until the Online Hall ends, and then you can chat!
But it can be implemented on any template – even on Xeen (a day before the restart meeting, otherwise it's a boon for the blue player, as by moving around, they can either avoid a rematch if it's not beneficial, or force it when it is) and on subjective restart matches, it will still be quite profitable. :)

The main thing is that it will become possible to create a full-fledged tournament in terms of the bracket, and not like now – lose once, and your chances of getting 1st place are ruined.

once OH ends, you'll get to chat))
on the other hand, it can be introduced on any template -- even on X-els (a day before restart by meeting, otherwise the blue gets a free pass, since while moving, he will either be able to dodge the re by meeting if it's not beneficial for him, or force it in case it is) and there will still be a own decent profit on subjective restarts :)

the main thing is that it will become realistically possible to set up a full-fledged tournament in terms of the bracket, rather than like now -- you lose one and your chances for 1st place are diminished

Only an unhealthy optimist could believe that OH will be made for SoD. Imho.

Only an unhealthy optimist could believe that OH will be made for SoD. IMHO.

Why?

Why?

I assume, to keep Haven as a competitive advantage for HotA.

I suppose, to keep Simultaneous Turn Order as a competitive advantage of HoTA.

The world is ruled by ideas, and they are valued in it!
The idea of simultaneous turn order is as old as Tournaments; it's as old as the transfer of troops/artifacts, for example.
I suppose that the team that created HoTA is not going to usurp the idea of Simultaneous Turn Order just because they were the first to implement it.
Just as HW is not going to give up on the idea of promoting HoTA, even though it is supposedly a competitor to the currently played SoD.
I suppose that the authors of HoTA believe in the merits of the ideas of their own product, which has a bright future!...

...but in the present, it's still SoD.
And the contribution of the HoTA team to it is also undeniable; many people have actually returned to Heroes because of the HD mod!
And the example of Simultaneous Turn Order in HoTA will inspire programmers – true connoisseurs of the Game – and they will sooner or later do the same in SoD.
And it is not excluded that this will happen before HoTA can take a leading position.
And where will the advantage go?

So it is better for everyone if this is done by the respected developers themselves, especially since the second question was precisely about gratitude from the players for this ;) I suppose that this will not be a problem)).

P.S.:
However, cutting down on Necropolis is an undeniable competitive advantage)).
And for a soft landing of people on HoTA, simply adding checkboxes for its objects, a la zeppelins/workshops, and other towers, would be enough, and they could somehow do without Gosha, he is banned in SoD, poor guy.
So, are we waiting for HW-rules for HoTA?

What other competitive advantage could there be? People play Heroes of Might and Magic because they enjoy it, just like some people still play Warcraft. Heroes of Might and Magic Online has absolutely no bearing on the percentage of the audience and doesn't influence it in any way.

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Wow, Wowa, it's been a while since we've seen such lengthy and informative posts from you! :smile02:

Actually, I was thinking that even more amazing people could come to St. Petersburg, and I'd love to see them in person one more time, rather than trade it for some Sochi! :-P

who decides first – and commits to it – with a clear, detailed plan – or a detailed, illustrated one – I’ll come – and I’ll bring the cognac. Shman, make up your mind (this isn’t even a bet).

Damn, I forgot to add – we’ll drink with me and Lizard. There are so few of us Belarusians (((

Only an unhealthy optimist could believe that OH will be made for SoD. IMHO.

Now, this is where I'll have to disagree with you

Dear gentlemen, may I remind you that this topic is dedicated to discussing the CIS 2015, and not at all to the simultaneous scheduling of events...

P.S. There was a post just above about how St. Petersburg will allow you to save money, unlike Sochi; perhaps we can somehow use this as motivation. To be honest, I was thinking the opposite....