Russia is in mourning!!!!!!!Dr.van — Everything about everything.

Святой_Паладин

4/25/2007 6:42 PM UTC

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Well...
He did what he could, and as he saw fit.
Now, on the forum, everyone can say, well, he's bad, this and that...
But what if you were in his place?
...it's good that many of you aren't there.
Otherwise, Russia would be in ruins...

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BotINKi

4/25/2007 7:26 PM UTC

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Inquisitor;85229

In my opinion, Yeltsin did a good job, and I thank him for ensuring that a country like Russia continued to exist. No further comments. I despise those who don't respect Yeltsin.

RESPECT!!!! Whatever he was, he was the First President of the Russian Federation. He went down in history, and there's no need to say whether he was good or bad... history will judge, not us...
The USSR was in crisis, and its collapse was inevitable, and it wasn't Yeltsin's fault. This collapse had been brewing for a long time...
He did a lot – some things were good, some were bad...
Personally, I respect Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin!!!!

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Слоныш

4/25/2007 7:49 PM UTC

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Nowizard;85207

I feel sorry for him. Whether he intended to do good or not, I still feel sorry for him.

My God, what is there to feel sorry about? Did he leave us prematurely at a young age? Many would be happy to live as long as he did. And, in general, he lived a good life. You would be better off feeling sorry for the impoverished elderly woman from the neighboring building... if it is really necessary to feel sorry for anyone in this situation.

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Всадница_паладин;85254

What if you were in his place?
...it's a good thing that many of you are not there.
Otherwise, Russia would be in ruins...

But notice, we don't "go there" either. Understanding what a responsibility it is to govern a country.

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Kreesanya;85233

Speak no ill of the dead. (quote)

A politician, especially the head of state, is a public figure. And this principle does not apply to him. Should we then say "either good or nothing" about Hitler, for example? Even here, on the forum, how many people attacked Peter I, Lenin, Ivan the Terrible... No, we have the right to discuss what their rulers did to our country.

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OptiMAL

4/25/2007 8:18 PM UTC

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Slohnish;85259

A politician, especially the head of state, is a public figure. And this principle does not apply to him. Should we then say "either good or nothing" about Hitler, for example? Even here, on the forum, how many people attacked Peter the Great, Lenin, Ivan the Terrible... No, we have the right to discuss what their rulers did to our country.

Why doesn't this principle apply? Isn't he a person like us? Here, we need to think about moral standards and look for only the good. But you, on the contrary, are looking for something to criticize. That's not good:mad:

:D

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Слоныш

4/25/2007 9:09 PM UTC

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OptiMAL;85268

Why not apply this principle? Isn't he a human being like you and me? We need to think about moral standards and look for only the good. But you, on the contrary, are looking for something to criticize. That's not good:mad:

Excuse me, but why aren't you ashamed to say "bad" things about Hitler and Stalin? Weren't they human beings?!

Мавр

4/25/2007 9:21 PM UTC

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Hello...
I was just passing by and couldn't help but post in this "thread."
I'm not getting into politics, but some of you are just...
What the hell are you doing, badmouthing a person you don't even know, who is older than you, and generally speaking "like that" about the deceased? It's a sin. The person is dead; he was someone's husband, father, or grandfather. And you, you animals, are still slandering him...
I would punch you in the face for words like that.
I've already talked about the rudeness on the forum, but this is going beyond all limits.
I'm shocked by you...
Heroes - heroism... You're lowlifes...

Без пафоса и найденых через поисковик цитат: Ухахахахаха...:smile40:

Fireball

4/25/2007 10:13 PM UTC

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2 DarkMavr

I've already talked about the rudeness on the forum, but it's going beyond all limits.

There's much less rudeness without you.

I would punch you in the face for such words.

Heroes - heroism... You are all scoundrels.

It's easy to "be a hero" sitting at a computer, threatening everyone. But in reality?

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Kreesanya

4/26/2007 3:36 AM UTC

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Slohnish;85259

A politician, especially the head of state, is a public figure. And this principle does not apply to him. Should we then say "either good or nothing" about Hitler, for example? Even here, on the forum, how many people attacked Peter I, Lenin, and Ivan the Terrible... No, we have the right to discuss what their rulers did to our country.

Shhh, let's not argue, since everyone seems to be taking it so seriously... But it's not Christian to criticize the deceased 40 days after their death. And Peter I, Hitler, and the Terrible are all from more distant periods of history, about which there is already some objectivity...

Restless. Endless. Mindless.
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З.Ы: кадилом по голове не бить.

З.З.Ы: А вот у нас в Шио....:D

Алекс_П

4/26/2007 5:40 AM UTC

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I don't care about formalities. I don't respect Yeltsin, either as a person or as a politician. I have respect for Putin, while Yeltsin started his climb to power from a very young age, disregarding everything. He was like a tank. His departure confirms that everyone is equal before death and is not a reason for "universal mourning."

Миром правят циники - романтики его украшают...

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Хантер томсон

4/26/2007 7:30 AM UTC

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It is obvious that at that time Yeltsin was the only one who could take power into his own hands (and who else? maybe Khasbulatov, God forbid?!).

In general, this was even confirmed by crowds of thousands shouting to the beat of drums: Yeltsin! Yeltsin!

It is obvious that it was he who knocked out the teeth of the CPSU and he who built a political (more or less functioning) system.

It is probably obvious to everyone that no damn revolution is capable of setting something up in 500, 1000, 2000 days, especially from a complete vacuum, and whoever was at the helm would have been doomed to condemnation by people who, by the way, privatized and plundered the country under the cover of darkness.

Oh, what a scoundrel Yeltsin is, he allowed theft, oh my—Khodorkovsky said to Berezovsky.

Oh, Yeltsin climbed out of the plane drunk, said the country dying with a glass of vodka in its hand.

Oh, let's dance on the bones,

ugh...

Pushkin wrote:

Respect for the past—that is the main trait that distinguishes education from SAVAGERY.

Эй, лох! Я тебя люблю

"Тот, кто становится зверем, избавляется от боли быть человеком... "
Доктор Джонсон

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Dr.van

4/26/2007 7:38 AM UTC

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DarkMavr;85275

Hello...
I'm not getting into politics, but some of you are just...
What the hell are you... saying about a person you don't even know, who is older than you, and generally, speaking "like that" about the deceased is a sin. The person is dead, he was someone's husband, father, grandfather. And you, you animals, are still slandering him...
Heroes - heroism... You are scoundrels... :smile48:
I know it's rude and offensive, but it's honest and straightforward.
Respect to the truly worthy people who understood me.

Maur!:rolleyes: Are you actually saying something sensible? I'm starting to change my opinion of you! You're right now more than ever! That's why I fully support you! I have nothing more to add!

And from me: The public doesn't listen, and if it does listen, it doesn't hear; if it does hear, it doesn't understand.
Simone Signoret

Моё имя останется ввеках :smile24:
Я прошел через сансару многих рождений. Рожденье вновь и вновь — горестно.

Б. ЕЛЬЦИН: "Я ХОТЕЛ, ЧТОБЫ ЛЮДИ БЫЛИ СВОБОДНЫ"

Geksorin

4/26/2007 8:56 AM UTC

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He should have been thrown into the furnace, not buried!

Герой в каждом из нас...:rolleyes:

"Истинно могуч тот, кто побеждает самого себя"

Eric Wynn

4/26/2007 9:51 AM UTC

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I have a healthy dose of indifference towards this – no matter how much we discuss politicians, we can’t influence them... and here, it’s already History, so let him rest in peace, although I’m generally in favor of cremation – cemeteries take up a lot of space... I simply don’t care if it doesn’t bother anyone.

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And I don’t care... we can’t influence politicians no matter how much we criticize them, and now it’s History anyway, so let him rest in his grave from worldly affairs... P.S. I’m generally in favor of cremation – cemeteries take up a lot of space...

Убей в себе государство...
Е.Летов царство ему небесное...

Ибо во многой мудрости много печали,умножающий познание умножает скобь...
Царь Соломон

Nowizard

4/26/2007 11:39 AM UTC

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People (those who will criticize Yeltsin), I understand you perfectly; I personally dislike Yeltsin – I can’t even eat when I think about him. But there should be some moral principles. Would you be happy if, at your funeral, everyone would badmouth everything you did wrong?

Mavr: rude, disrespectful, but I respect it:)
Hunter Thompson: +1

P.S. By the way, it’s funny that the same people who are now criticizing him have forgotten who actually proposed Putin as the next president...:rolleyes:

Бог есть любовь