Sylvan elves — Project "Ascension".

XEL

19 years ago

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Using magic to speed things up is nonsense. You can't revive a planet with magic, no matter how much you want to. And 10 million years is unlikely to be enough. If you wait that long, there will be new species and new civilizations, and so on. The surviving races wouldn't have survived because the Reckoning struck the dungeons, the land, and the sky. We need to come up with something more elaborate.

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gamehuntera

19 years ago

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Faster with magic – that’s nonsense.

Be more gentle, XEL, be more gentle. If you remember, there was nothing at all at first, and the Elements created the world. There are many gods – Scandinavian, Egyptian, Chinese, and others – who, according to legend, created the world. And the same Elemental Lords can restore the world. Or the Guardian himself, using the technology of the Ancients.
You can change not the history, but the concept. Let's say, each race went into its own semi-world. Krigane – into the dimension of hell, Elves – into a parallel world-reflection, the Green Lands, Humans – into the Heavens with the help of angels, Dungeon is half-destroyed but is slowly being reborn, the Swamp into the Swamp Land (a parallel world-planet, completely covered in swamps and inhabited by unseen creatures), mages... either into space or into the dimension of dreams – the embodiment of the thoughts of the inhabitants of the earth, a semi-astral world. However, I would rather see something like this in Heroes 6.

XEL;85265

10 million years is also unlikely. If you have to wait that long, they will already be new species with new civilizations, etc.

New civilizations will appear as a result of a grand shift in magical flows during the Armageddon;

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The surviving races would not have been saved because the Reckoning struck the Dungeon and the land and the sky.

However, why be so categorical? Mages can easily be saved in the sky/space dimension. Underground – also, although it is more difficult (earthquakes). In another world – 100%;

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Мугайс

19 years ago

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Besides, I clearly remember that the explosion was large, but it didn't cover the entire planet! Life could very well have survived on other continents.

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XEL

19 years ago

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Be more gentle, XEL, be more gentle. If you remember, there was nothing at all at first, and the Elements created the world. There are many gods – Scandinavian, Egyptian, Chinese, and others – who, according to legend, created the world. And the same Elemental Lords can restore the world. Or the Guardian himself, using the technology of the Ancients.

The Elemental Lords did not create the world. That legend spoke of the "creation" of Cron, which, as is known, is a planetoid created by the Ancients. In fact, that legend allegorically tells about the struggle of the Elemental Lords for dominance over Cron after its creation. What the Elemental Lords created was the first Dragons. And the technology of Elemental Manipulation, which surpassed any magic, was possessed by the Ancients and their enemies – the Progenitors. And in the world of M&M, there are no gods in the literal sense of the word. NWC themselves have said this many times. There are no Heavens, Hell, or the Afterlife in M&M, there never were, and there never will be. Of these "otherworldly realms," there are only the Elemental Spheres, but it is clear that these are dimensions formed from distortions of space that arose as a result of the cataclysms of the Elemental War between the Ancients and the Progenitors. And it manifests in worlds where magic is more developed than all other technologies, etc. (Enroth, Cron, etc.). And the Elements in M&M are, first of all, not fire, water, air, and earth, but 109 (by that time, maybe more) chemical elements from the Periodic Table. Mugais, further on, it shows the spread of the explosion, and if it didn't cover the entire planet in a second, or if the movie didn't show how far it spread (although it was said), that doesn't mean it won't cover the entire planet. And there is no need to exploit the word "cosmos" as if it were another dimension! In general, just change the concept of Ascension itself, and it will be fine.

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The Guardian using the technology of the Ancients is possible, but the Elements – no, I'm afraid not. The Guardian could have survived the Reckoning, but we need to think about how he avoided some kind of brain malfunction from such an explosion.

gamehuntera

19 years ago

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Well, here it is. I know my way around the Might & Magic universe, but I'm far from an expert. Personally, I also prefer the Guardian option, of course. P.S.: Was the brain malfunction caused by the explosion or by the very fact of the planet's destruction? It's not that important. The main thing is that he survived and started rebuilding the planetoid.

XEL

19 years ago

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Enroth is a normal planet, not a planetoid. A planetoid is Kron (it was on it that the war with the Elemental Lords took place, as described in that legend). Although, the Ancients have sufficiently advanced technology for a normal planet. Well, the Guardian option fits that description.

Saruman

19 years ago

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XEL - the question is, in which parts does the action take place on Enroth, and in which on Xeen? Regarding the recovery after the cataclysm, this is quite possible: nowhere does it say that the explosion engulfed the entire planet; remote lands could have survived, there are fewer cataclysms in the dungeons, and some races could have gone through portals and then returned. Regarding the recovery - the cataclysm is magical, which means its consequences are unknown, and how it will develop is also unknown; besides, there are gods, the Guardian. All this justifies the relatively rapid new development of the continents.
The option with a ruler-Guardian is good, but is it appropriate for the Elves? I think, at the request of the players, I will create some race with a Guardian, but not the Elves, otherwise I will have to redo too much. For the Elves, it should be a recognizable druid character. I am replacing Tiviona with Elrich Parson.
Muga - the weaves are something like tree-like structures, brought to life by magic. Inside, an archer can be placed, thus creating a piece of forest with an archer inside.
Beorn - forest werewolves that transform into bears, they are engaged in beekeeping and growing fruits, and also practice healing.
Gamehunter - it turns out that three new units appear for Rampart, many additions for the triple upgrade, level 8, commanders, defender.
By the way, which name is better, Aquilon or Land of Eternal Forests?

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XEL

19 years ago

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XEL - the question is, in which parts does the action take place on Enroth and in which on Xeen. Regarding the recovery after the cataclysm, this is quite possible: nowhere is it said that the explosion engulfed the entire planet; remote lands could have survived, there are fewer cataclysms in dungeons, some races may have gone into portals and then returned. Regarding the recovery - the cataclysm is magical, which means its consequences are unknown, how it will develop, and besides, there are gods, the Guardian. All this justifies the relatively rapid new development of the continents.

This is stated in the game Heroes of Might and Magic 4. In addition, Enroth was also captured by the Conflagration, and it is far from Antagarich. The Guardian is not a god in the direct (fantasy) sense of the word. And there are no gods.

The elves should have a recognizable druid character.

Can we come up with a new druid?

By the way, which name is better, Aquilon or Land of Eternal Forests?

Aquilon. The Antagarich elves have never been excessive romantics. By the way, what about the elves and dwarves of the Contested Lands?

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Saruman;85530

XEL - the question is, in which parts does the action take place on Enroth and in which on Xeen.

Damn, Xeen - M&M4-5, Enroth - M&M6-8, HoMM1-3 with add-ons and Chronicles. In M&M6-7, the world is repeatedly called Enroth. And this is not the only thing that speaks in favor of the fact that Xeen is not the world of M&M6-8 and HoMM1-3.

Saruman

19 years ago

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A Guardian is not a god in the direct (fantasy) sense of the word. And there are no gods. So, who do the monks of Erathia worship? Besides, the new races have many new gods.

- I didn't say that gods and the Guardian are the same thing. Besides, who did the monks of Erathia worship, and do the new races have gods?

Maybe create a new druid?

- It's possible, but I still wanted something recognizable.

By the way, what about the elves and dwarves of the Contested Lands?

- They most likely joined Aquilon or fled to Axoth. In any case, they didn't seem to have separate units. A storyline about them could be made later; I think they joined Aquilon with autonomous rights. After all, it was difficult for everyone to survive after the reckoning, so it was easier for them to unite with them.

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XEL

19 years ago

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- I didn't say that the gods and the Guardian are one and the same. Besides, who did the Erathian monks worship then, and do the new races have gods?
- It's possible, but I still wanted something recognizable
- Uh, most likely they joined Aquilon or fled to Axet; in any case, it seems they didn't have separate units. And a storyline about them can be made later; I think they joined Aquilon on the basis of autonomy, as it was easier for them to unite with them—after the reckoning, it was difficult for everyone to survive.

The monks worship the Light. Like in Warcraft. In M&M, this is something like a modified religion of the Church of the Sun. Worshiping gods and their existence are different things. There are no gods in the old M&M universe.

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