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Can anyone tell me if there's a program that allows you to view a hero's skill tree? Or perhaps a cheat code that lets you see what skills a hero can acquire on a particular map?
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A new version of the Drevo-Kachalka program (1.3) is available; I'm posting it here.

Brief description.

1. The program works for any hero in the hero window (heroes must not be asleep).

2. It is not recommended to set the hero's level too high. For example, 20 levels of progression result in 2^20 = 1,048,576 variations, approximately 5 seconds each. Total: 2 months of program execution.

15 levels - 2^15 = 32,768 variations, almost 2 days.
10 levels - 2^10 = 1,024 variations, almost 1.5 hours.
5 levels - 2^5 = 32 variations, 2-3 minutes.

3. The program works by leveling up the hero through repeated automatic input of the cheat code nwcneo; after this, the initial save is automatically loaded, and the hero is leveled up in a different direction (the order of selecting left and right skills is changed).

4.1 The results of hero leveling are stored in print screens located in the Res folder of the program. The name of each screenshot file consists of the letters L (Left) and R (Right), indicating the order of skill selection during leveling. Thus, now, having found a leveling option that suits you, it will be easy to find out in what order the skills are given.

4.2. Starting with version 1.3, two new features have been implemented:
a) instant program stop is available when the hero reaches any of the 3 specified skills;
b) you can specify from 1 to 3 skills that the hero should never acquire. In this case, the program filters the skill tree. This means that when the hero receives an "unnecessary" skill, the leveling result will not be saved in the Res folder (it is planned to implement filtering unnecessary skills into another subfolder, for example, named "Bad").

Note. Item b) has a higher priority. Example: if the option to stop the program when the hero reaches "Basic Logistics" and the option to never choose the "Literacy" skill are set, and during the leveling process, the hero receives both skills, the program will not stop, and the result will not be saved in the Res folder.

5. The program uses cheat codes – be careful!

6. There is protection against damaging the original, clean save: a cheat save is created with a new name (the word "chit" is added to the original save).

7. The program itself can be placed anywhere (it does not have to be in the heroes folder).

8. When the Heroes III window is deactivated, the program stops. Instant exit from the program is done by pressing the key combination +Q.

Acquiring certain skills depends on:
1. The race to which the hero belongs.
2. What class they are (mage/warrior).

And these skills provide... a "chance-based outcome"... meaning that for any given skill, different heroes have different chances of acquiring it.

The acquisition of a skill is not dependent on the map.

The order in which skills are acquired matters, and that's important!

There’s a program for Heroes of Might and Magic V where you can plan a hero’s development. Maybe that’s what they were talking about.

Could you tell me if there was a program mentioned somewhere on the forum that allows you to view a hero's skill tree?
Or maybe there's a cheat code that lets you find out which skills a hero can acquire on a particular map.

There is a cheat code: nwcneo - gain a level. It's not convenient, but it's a solution.

So, we'll write a corresponding program.
It's already in development! ;)

I'm already looking forward to it :)

Doesn't the map affect the skills? There's a mod that allows you to view the "skill tree" directly in the game.

Doesn't the skill tree depend on the map? There's a mod that allows you to view the "skill tree" directly in the game.

If you start playing a map, the skill tree is one way; if you replay the same map (without loading a save, but starting over), the skill tree will be different. It can also depend on the map if certain skills are prohibited. But in SoD, you can't prohibit skills.

Yes, the order in which skills are acquired by a hero depends on the map.

And if you (choose the option) replay the map (on random, for example),
then the skills will also be distributed differently.
(and the monsters on the map may change, and the heroes in the tavern,
and the amount of starting army for the hero,
and the amount of gold in piles and chests...)

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Could you provide more details about the mod?

Yes, the order in which skills are acquired by a hero depends on the map.

And if you (choose the option) replay the map (on random, for example),
then the skills will also be distributed differently.
(and the monsters on the map may change, and the heroes in the tavern,
and the amount of starting army for the hero,
and the amount of gold in piles and chests...)

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Could you provide more details about the mod?

This is a mod for "Heroes of Might and Magic V".

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like such a program is called "Heroes Scanner" (or something similar). When you launch the game with this program, it displays the hero's skill tree, which shows exactly which skills that hero will have in the game – quite a marvel! I downloaded this scanner from some professional review, but I only used it in single-player. However, the reviewer claimed that this program was almost a cheat and advocated for its removal.

Can you upload the program here?
Or provide a link to where you downloaded it?

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I found this heroes-scanner:
HeroScaner.rar

But again, this is for the fifth game :(

what about a program like this...?

well, there's a chance of skills dropping – why not create a rough skill tree…)))

Of course, you can also create a probability tree, but that's a completely different topic.

It’s great to know the probability of getting a skill, but I have a silly question: Do I need to put this program in the game folder, or can I just run it and start playing?:smile32: