Good versus Evil - II — Tournament History online

Yaugen

8/31/2015 9:14 AM UTC

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JonnyP

Basically, this is my vision for this tournament:
Stage 1: Round-robin – each good faction plays against each evil faction. Choose from the full list, but no more than 2 repeats. (with 8 games, 2 games for each faction + also, if there are no more elves left, for example, then you will have to exclude them).

Playoffs – it's clear. The top places among the evil factions face the last ones from the good factions, and vice versa. Factions are chosen from the full list – if you advance, you can no longer play with that faction.
Semi-final/final – it doesn't matter anymore. :)

Templates are always chosen from the full list.
Plus, there is no need to wait for the next draw; you play when you have the opportunity. This does not violate the idea of the tournament: good versus evil.

I approve. :)

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chudo_ud0

8/31/2015 11:52 AM UTC

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JonnyP

Basically, this is my vision for this tournament:
Stage 1: group stage - each good guy plays against each bad guy. Choose races from the full list, but no more than 2 repeats. (with 8 games, 2 games for each race + in addition, if there are no more elves left, for example, then they will have to be chosen).

Playoffs - it's clear. The top places among the evil ones go against the last ones among the good ones, and vice versa. Races from the full list - if you made it further, you can no longer play as them.
Semi-finals/finals, it doesn't matter anymore :)

This will significantly prolong the tournament instead of 8 games, how many will it be, about 20? At the same time, it will be difficult for the organizers to control the group stage in terms of timing, and it may drag on. Then, let's say, at the top in the final group table, there will be all good guys or, conversely, all evil guys, what then? There may be a strong elimination right away, and they will mainly play as one faction, or are you planning to make a clear division, for example, 4 best "evil" and 4 best "good" ones go through?

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JonnyP

8/31/2015 1:19 PM UTC

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chudo_ud0

This will significantly prolong the tournament; instead of 8 games, it will take around 20. Moreover, it will be difficult for the organizers to control the group stage in terms of timing, and it might drag on. Then, let's say, if the top players in the final group table are all "good" or, conversely, all "evil," what then? There might be a strong elimination right away, and they will mostly play as one faction, or do you plan to make a clear division, for example, by having the top 4 "evil" and 4 "good" players advance?

Two evil and two good players advance. Then, they compete in a knockout stage, playing against each other. Currently, there are 14 players; in the group stage, they need to play only 7 games (i.e., you need to play against each of the "good" players). If you take 1st or 2nd place in your group based on points, you play one more game; if you advance to the final, you play one more. In total, a maximum of 9 games. In case of a tie in points, you can flip a coin :)

You can do it differently – have 4 players advance from the group based on points, which means one more game (resulting in an additional 1/8). You can also play with a winners/losers playoff bracket, but again, these are all additional games. It doesn't really matter in that case.
Of course, in the final, it might happen that both villains advance – it doesn't matter; let them simply determine the strongest :)

ps: by the way, with 14 players, you can make it so that in the playoffs, only the last remaining race plays. And the final, for example, could again be played to 1/3/5...45 wins

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KillAndAction

8/31/2015 2:59 PM UTC

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chudo_ud0, will you participate in the tournament?

Будьте осторожны со своими желаниями. Иногда они исполняются.
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KillAndAction

8/31/2015 3:18 PM UTC

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Let me summarize.
We'll play Good versus Evil in a group stage, with the top 4 Good and 4 Evil factions advancing to the quarterfinals as JonnyP described (best against worst). The final will consist of a maximum of 3 games.
In the group stage/playoffs/final, we'll list the factions from the full list at the beginning of each stage, reducing the list of unplayed factions. In the group stage, you can't play more than 2 games with the same faction.
If, by the final, there are only Good or Evil factions, that's okay.

If there are no questions, we'll start the tournament tomorrow.

Будьте осторожны со своими желаниями. Иногда они исполняются.
Сервер в Discord
Стрим на twitch.tv
Стрим на GG

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chudo_ud0

8/31/2015 3:30 PM UTC

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KillAndAction

chudo_ud0, will you participate in the tournament?

I'm already participating in it:smile02:

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KillAndAction

8/31/2015 7:41 PM UTC

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Updated the rules. We'll start tomorrow.

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KillAndAction

9/1/2015 5:47 PM UTC

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KillAndAction's Orcs versus JonnyP's Academy :D

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chudo_ud0

9/2/2015 6:28 PM UTC

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Please register me in the table as I indicated during registration, namely dexterwar.

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KillAndAction

9/2/2015 7:06 PM UTC

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chudo_ud0

Please add me to the table using the name I provided during registration, which is dexterwar.

I will fix it later.

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Stefandmy

9/3/2015 11:11 AM UTC

dexterwar - stefan
орки-маги

Yaugen

9/3/2015 3:14 PM UTC

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serga - yaughen
Dungeon - Gnomes

Boez.

9/4/2015 3:04 PM UTC

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Boez - mizargurus
Mages - Orcs

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chudo_ud0

9/4/2015 4:09 PM UTC

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I can't find them on ICQ: Yaughen-604023507 Alexeagle-696804345 JonnyP-575169271 Stannis-660908122 Maybe they'll find me :smile15: Also, I'd like to have two separate threads, one for reports and another for discussions, because right now everything is mixed together.