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How will we go on from here?
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Multiple choice Public votes Closed 2015-08-12
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Allow combining moderation duties with membership in the Arbitration Committee
69.4% 34 votes
Prohibit combining moderation duties with membership in the Arbitration Committee
22.4% 11 votes
1 person is making changes to the ХВ rules
8.2% 4 votes
AK makes changes to the rules for Hv
46.9% 23 votes
Changes to the rules of Heroes & Might & Magic will be made after a general vote
38.8% 19 votes
The rules for official Tournaments are determined by their organizer
36.7% 18 votes
The rules for official Tournaments are part of the ХВ rules
57.1% 28 votes
Leave restart on block
63.3% 31 votes
Remove restart on block
32.7% 16 votes
You can start digging for the Grail from week 6
32.7% 16 votes
You can start digging for the Grail on week 1
63.3% 31 votes
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I have no idea. What makes the CIS so special? At the last two CIS events, they seemed to play strictly by HeroesWorld rules, didn’t they?
The basis for banning the Grail is less map exposure, or is that currently impossible? If not, then it can be allowed without conditions

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The messages are being posted quickly here — I think the vote was started too early
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The basis of banning the Grail - less card revealing, or is it currently impossible; if not, then it can be done unconditionally
Currently, all tournament games are played with passwords on saves. So far, I haven't heard any complaints about maphack.
the speed at which messages are typed here - I think the voting was organized too early
That's normal for HeroesWorld - there aren't many people willing to just discuss things, but when there's a poll, many feel the importance of the moment.
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Decisions are made by a simple majority of votes.
What decisions? And a simple majority of votes – what is this nonsense? Why not create a poll along with the relevant and timely discussion – “fire the Creator?” ) It seems like another troll attempt…

And seriously, this is not serious – an absolute majority of forum users participated in the AK elections, they expressed trust in the elected members, and trying to push through your agenda with such package polls means disrespecting the opinion of the forum.

It is not worth participating in such polls, which are caused by resentment. Prav is right – this is illegitimate and incorrect.

As for technical issues, let the AK create polls for the block and the grail.
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Как сделать так, чтобы в подписи картинка рейтинга была кликабельной?
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Because here, it's a democracy. At least, that's how most players and organizers present it. I operate within this social model. If I'm wrong, well, okay, I'll learn from it.
There isn't any democracy here; everything is subordinate to two people (which is probably a good thing). Even the AC (presumably referring to an administrative council) actually has very little power, possibly even zero, if you remove those two people from it.
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The horses and people are all mixed up... And it wouldn't be so bad if it were just about the AK and moderators, although I've never seen moderators/coordinators chosen by democratic majority. Let her, Vika, show herself as the most democratic democrat again – let her play around, but the vote itself is not legitimate. If points 3 or 4 get the majority, does that completely invalidate points 8, 9, 10, and 11? Because if one person (in our case, Pit) or the AK will be responsible for the rules, what difference will it make how the majority voted?
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It's normal for HeroesWorld - just casually discussing with those who are somewhat interested, but when there's a vote, many become filled with a sense of importance about the moment.
so what's the final interpretation regarding "re on the block" if it remains? it doesn't satisfy the players, that's why I created the topic, and not specifically about the block, but about everything, maybe something else will come to light like with the Grail

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Horses, men, all mixed together...
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if the majority picks points 3 or 4, does that completely nullify points 8, 9, 10, and 11? After all, if one person (in our case, Pit) or the AK is responsible for the rules, then what difference does it make how the majority voted?
no wonder they brought in the AK, you caught Vick there

Vick, why did you blow your cover like that?
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so, what will be the final decision regarding "re per block" if it remains?
Then you will continue the discussion.

The purpose of the poll regarding "block" is to determine whether it makes sense to discuss it further, or is it better to just drop it?

The option "I didn't like the new wording of 're per block', so it's better to cancel it" seems surreal to me - the options there don't differ too much in quality. And, judging by the megabytes of discussion about this rule in different years on different forums, there is no breakthrough to be expected.

If anything, I don't care, I didn't vote for either option, let the players decide.

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if the majority choose options 3 or 4, will this completely invalidate options 8, 9, 10, and 11? Because if one person (in our case, Pete) or the AC is responsible for the rules, what difference will it make how the majority voted?
Then it will not be a decision, but a survey of public opinion, which, as practice shows, both Pete and the AC pay attention to. That's not bad either.
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It's not for nothing that he was taken into AC, he caught Vic

Vic, why did you give yourself away like that?
I didn't catch him—it's lying on the surface, and, in general, before this poll, another poll should have been created: is it permissible to change the rules of HeroesWorld by a simple majority of votes?
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Вик, why did you blow your cover like that?
I didn't blow my cover, I just fed the trolls. It happens...

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I wasn't even fishing—it's lying on the surface, and besides, before this poll, it was worth creating another poll: is it permissible to change the rules of HeroesWorld by a simple majority vote?
100500 polls is Dubrovin-style. It's better to combine several polls into one. In this case, it's completely safe.
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[/U] Then it won't be a solution, but a public opinion poll, which, as practice shows, both Pete and the Arbitration Committee pay attention to. That's not bad either.
Oh, another troll ;) we'll set the whole world on fire, and all the bourgeois will suffer... But what about the fact that 3 out of the current members of the Arbitration Committee have already expressed their opinion on this issue?
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It seems like you're not quite understanding...

What are the 3 points you're referring to, and what do they express? Even if they do express something, what's the problem?

The poll regarding your suggestion is the topic you're currently in – points 3, 4, and 5.
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It seems you're smoking something...

What 3 things are you referring to, and what did they express? Even if they did express something, what's the problem?

The poll regarding your suggestion is the topic you're in – points 3, 4, and 5.
Yeah, it's tough... You even forgot your own trolling in the neighboring topic...
By the way, it's strange, I see that you personally didn't vote on all the questions, an interesting position for the person who created the poll, you abstained, right? Or was the whole idea of the poll initiated because of 2 particularly interesting questions for you?
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Polls are created at lightning speed. DaU-style. In one poll, we decide who will make changes to the rules, and immediately after, there are two polls about changing the rules. What's the point of this poll then?
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My children, please calm down. Vic and Romantic, just play a game of Russian roulette: one will remain, the other will die. Vic is trying to push through his ideas, and Romantic is fighting tooth and nail to discredit the vote.
Out of everything listed, the most important thing, in my opinion, is the restructuring of the Grail.
Regarding combining membership and moderation – I voted against it because no one should overwork themselves. Keep flies and cutlets separate.
Changes to the rules – naturally, a vote. But not a universal one. Instead, with higher criteria for participation.
Remove the re-post rule – first, eliminate the programmatic blocks, then remove the rule.
Rules for official tournaments... Tournaments are official for a reason...
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
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My children, please calm down. Vic and Romantic – just play a game of Russian roulette: one will remain, the other will die. Vic is trying to push through his ideas, and Romantic is willing to sacrifice everything to discredit the vote.
Of all the things mentioned, I believe that focusing on the Grail is the most important.
Regarding combining membership and moderation – I voted against it because no one should overwork themselves. Let's keep flies and cutlets separate.
Changes to the rules – naturally, a vote is needed. But not a universal one. Instead, with higher criteria for participation.
Remove the re-post rule – first, eliminate the programmatic blocks, and then remove the rule.
Rules for official Tournaments... Tournaments are official for a reason...
Dirty, create a "legitimate" poll about the Grail, because the current poll looks too trollish with all these arguments.
This suits us perfectly, it's the ideal option, but how do we choose these people without offending others?
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