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Giltonielle;82246

One parent, and I'm not arguing, I'm just saying that at this stage, the kinship might have been forgotten.)));)
Well, in that case, we are lost children who don't know their siblings. And our relatives don't know us either. It will be just like in "Star Wars";) . Something like Luke-like people and Darth Vader-like aliens. :)
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1) Who said, knows, or has seen that the Bulgarians don't protect us? I think you're wrong here, my friend, but you're not to blame; you just haven't encountered this.
2) The topic isn't silly. According to that legend, God created us in his image and likeness. ;) And why does everyone say that "sophisticated" phrase, "If I haven't seen it, I don't know it"? The world isn't simple, dear friends; such a crude expression has no meaning.
I agree with the second point...

But I disagree with the first. I responded to the same phrase, "If I haven't seen it, I don't know it." And I asked, "Why can't God protect us in THAT way, i.e., by not letting them, the aliens, come to us?" That's how it is, so you are wrong here, my dear.
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Akella;82127
There's no need to be deluded; there are many religions, and each one is convinced of its own correctness. You, however, place your faith above all others.
And that's because we believe in it. If we believe in it, then we consider it to be true. If it is true, then the rest are false. And if truth is of some value to us, then we also place our faith above others. If we put it on the same level as others, then we don't really have any faith.
It's strange, Akella; your posts are generally quite reasonable, but you're making such an obvious logical blunder:(
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And why can't God protect us (as his most beloved) from others in this way? (Protect us from others, prevent them from coming to us, etc.)
And why wouldn't God protect us by simply removing all dangers from the world? Why does he allow evil and violence at all? This means either he doesn't exist, or he is evil.... blah-blah-blah and so on in the same vein:mad:

I've already written this ten times: evil exists so that free will and good can exist. Aliens, from whom God should have protected us according to you, may simply be another necessary test for humanity to continue on the path of good...
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Silvanis
Because we believe in it. If we believe in it, then we consider it to be true. If it is true, then the rest are false. And if truth is of some value to us, then we value our faith more than others. If we put it on the same level as others, then in reality we don't have faith.
It's strange, Akella, your posts are generally quite reasonable, but you allow such an obvious logical fallacy:(
That's true, but I'm just asking you not to forget about others...
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Why wouldn't God protect us by removing all dangers from the world? Why does he allow evil and violence? This means either he doesn't exist, or he is evil.... blah-blah-blah and so on:
Firstly, if you are believers, then remember Lucifer (the Evil One), and that he is the one who creates evil, at least the Serpent did.
And why wouldn't God love his other sons too!?...
Maybe when they meet, the Evil One (or whoever) will repent, or we will disagree so much that we will quarrel, or something else...
Where are your arguments to the question "Why...?"?...
I apologize if something is wrong.
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I've written this ten times already: evil exists so that free will and good can exist. Aliens, from whom God should have protected us, may simply be another necessary test for humanity to continue on the path of good...
Maybe it is, but what if they are also his children, just the opposite of humans (don't get me wrong, these are just logical arguments to the same question "Why...?") to the point that something terrible could happen...
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I simply don't believe in such things... I believe that the world is always moving toward something better, that trials and suffering are just a necessary part of this journey; and no matter what we do, or what foolishness we commit, everything will still turn out for the best :) The same applies to meeting aliens :)

"Firstly, if you are believers, remember Lucifer (the Devious), and how he supposedly commits evil—or at least the Serpent did.
And why wouldn't God love His other sons as well!?...
It's just that perhaps upon meeting, the Devious (or whoever) will play a trick, or our views will diverge so much that we'll quarrel, or something else...
Where is your reasoning regarding the question 'Why...?'?...
I apologize if something is wrong."

Read it... And understood nothing :( Akella, can you explain it once more, just in different words? Honestly, I'm not getting it :( The point is escaping me
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Silvanis;82374
"Firstly, if you are believers, then remember Lucifer (the Deceiver) and the fact that, although he supposedly does evil, at least the Serpent did.
And why wouldn't God dislike some of his other sons!?...
Perhaps when they meet, the Deceiver (or whoever) will repent, or we will have such different views that we will quarrel, or something else...
Where are your arguments to the question "Why...?"?...
I apologize if something is wrong."

I read it... and I didn't understand anything:( Akella, can you explain it again, but in other words? Honestly, I don't get it:( The thought escapes me.
Okay.
So, you said that as believers, you believe in God, but there are entities opposite to God - demons. The first sin was committed by Eve and Adam. And the Serpent (Snake) tempted them to do it. But this is just an introduction.
God, as the creator, surely loves his other children as well, i.e., those not of this world.
And when both sides meet, a conflict may occur, which the Serpent (demon) will arrange, because there will certainly be some contradictions. They will be transformed from a mouse into an elephant by them (the Serpent). And therefore, perhaps God is keeping both sides in ignorance for now, waiting for the best moment.

To answer the question and build a logical chain, we need to ask ourselves the question "why is it this way, and not that way...?", which makes it possible to achieve what we are aiming for. For example: let's assume that aliens exist, and there is a God (this is a condition), and why haven't we met aliens yet?
Then we answer, for example: "because both we and they have not yet reached the necessary stage of development," or, taking into account the factor of God, as I already said.
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Why not, actually...
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I won't participate in the discussion, but I believe that evaluating aliens from a biblical perspective is somewhat absurd. Regarding the incident of talking to God, I also think it was either some kind of forest spirit or a ghost. The universe is infinite, and the possibility of the emergence of another life form is quite real, for several reasons: chance, the Phaeton theory (there is a theory that the asteroid belt is made up of fragments of the planet Phaeton, destroyed in a cataclysm, and a meteorite from there gave life to humanity; microorganisms were transported to Earth on it, something like this could have happened somewhere else in the universe), and the absolute mind (or lack thereof).
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Akella;82291
I agree with the second point...

But I disagree with the first. I was responding to the same phrase, "If I haven't seen it, I don't know it." And I asked, "Why can't God protect us in THAT way, i.e., by preventing them, the aliens, from coming to us?" That's how it was, so you are wrong here, my dear.
I understand that you may not see it that way. But I'm telling you that God protects us as long as we believe in Him, and when faith is gone, no one will care about us anymore. :)
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Lelya;82728
I understand that you don't see it that way, but I'm telling you that God protects us as long as we believe in Him, and when faith disappears, no one will care about us anymore. :)

Hmm... if God depends on our faith, then He doesn't exist, i.e., He exists, but in that case, God is our faith itself.
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Hmm... if God depends on our faith, then he doesn't exist, meaning he does exist, but in that case, God is simply our faith.
I'm getting confused... :) How can I put it more clearly? Basically, let's take the theory that there are many gods, and our God is among them. So, he decided to create us (let's assume!) and revealed to us the basic principles of morality, the "golden rule," and so on. His children believe in him, saying, "Yes, he is our parent; we must strictly follow the rules, strive for what is bright and good, and go to temples and pray so that he protects us and is with us." But then atheists appear, those who do not believe in this particular God and declare themselves "outside the principles of upbringing," meaning they simply run away from faith, just as children run away from their parents when they grow up. :) The parent remains alone and knows that this child will probably be better off without him.
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The only difference is that a person chosen by God cannot escape, and in essence, that is true.
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The only difference is that a person cannot escape from God, but essentially, you are right.
Well, yes, but I meant it figuratively. I should have said "to isolate oneself."
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Lelya;82737
I'm getting confused now... :) How can I put it more eloquently? Well, let's take the theory that there are many gods, and our God is among them. So, he decided to create us (let's assume!) and revealed to us the basic principles of morality, the "golden rule," and so on. His children believe in him, saying, "Yes, this is our parent, we must strictly follow the rules, we must strive for the bright and good, we must go to the Temple and pray so that He protects us and is with us." But atheists appear, those who do not believe in this particular God and declare themselves "outside the principles of upbringing," i.e., they simply run away from faith, like children run away from their parents when they grow up. :) The parent remains alone and knows that this child will probably be better off without him. :)
So, according to you, there are only Christians and atheists?...
And the Slavic pagan race is almost extinct?...
And why didn't the god take care of his first children, the pagans... they had other gods, which means they had other parents...
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Lelya;82737
I'm getting confused... :) How can I put it more clearly? Well, let's take the theory that there are many gods, and among them is our God. So, he decided to create us (let's assume!) and revealed to us the basic principles of morality, the "golden rule," and so on. His children believe in him, saying, "Yes, this is our parent, we must strictly follow the rules, we must strive for the bright and good, we must go to temples and pray so that He protects us and is with us." But atheists appear, those who do not believe in this particular God and declare themselves "outside the principles of upbringing," i.e., they simply run away from faith, just as children run away from their parents when they grow up. :) The parent remains alone and knows that this child will probably be better off without him. :)
If there are many gods (let's assume!), then people were definitely not created by just one.

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