Restructuring of the Academy. — Tournament History

Dima Surmay

11 years ago

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I read about the functions of the Arbitration Committee (AC): Functions: Monitoring compliance with the rules of the "Heroes 3 - ONLINE" section. Resolving controversial situations in ranked games. Maintaining the "Blacklist" section. Providing individual consultations to players. I think it's worth first deciding what the functions and rights of the AC are, as the ones listed now are clearly incorrect... The AC mainly deals with tournament games, not ranked games. Also, as it turns out, the AC changes the rules, even though it doesn't have that function listed. (Of course, Dirty and Pete are currently involved, and they change the rules as they please, but they might not be there). In general, I've long been unhappy that we don't have a regulation on who has the right to change the rules and how. If Dirty or Pete want to change them, they do, and they don't create a new post, a new version, but simply change the lines in the old rules, which leads to confusion.

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=Lizard=

11 years ago

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Wicc

My election platform:

1) Introduce a quiz in every tournament.
2) Bring politics back to the Tribune.
3) Get Indru unbanned.
4) Lobby for a checkbox to enable underground lava in Hvrulez.
5) Organize a series of tournaments called "Old Timer 2015/2016/2017, etc."
6) Unban Gosh in Hote.
7) Host a CIS tournament in Egypt.

Wow, that's amazing! Our president in Belarus hasn't achieved that much in 25 years.

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Dark

11 years ago

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Wicc

My election platform:

1) Introduce a quiz into every tournament.
2) Bring politics back to the Tribune.
3) Get Indru unbanned.
4) Lobby for a checkbox to enable underground lava in Hvrulez.
5) Organize a series of "Old Timer 2015/2016/2017, etc." tournaments.
6) Unban Gosh in Hote.
7) Host a CIS tournament in Egypt.

Great ideas, but the problem is that, judging by how you run tournaments – you find opponents yourself, there are no proper tournament brackets, and the deadlines are unclear – I wouldn't vote for you, no offense:cool:

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Pyre

11 years ago

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Dima Surmay

The Tournament Committee mainly analyzes tournament games, not ranked games. Also, as it turned out, the Tournament Committee changes the rules, even though it doesn't have the authority to do so. (Of course, Dirty and Pit are currently part of it and change the rules as they please, but they might not always be there.)

Tournament games contribute to the ranking, so they can be considered ranked games. However, a regulation is needed.

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Сатир

11 years ago

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Wicc

My election platform:

<-- my face after reading it.

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=Lizard=

Wow, what a guy! Our president in Belarus hasn't achieved that much in 25 years)))

But he hasn't done it either; the main thing is to make promises. I think our "batka" (father) hasn't fallen behind in that regard either.

Player_

11 years ago

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I nominate myself. There was a time when I helped the forum by sending messages about unconfirmed reports via ICQ, but I quickly realized that people who chronically fail to confirm reports continue to do so. A different solution to the problem was needed. I can offer the forum my activity; I visit almost every day (except for the last 2 weeks when I was playing The Witcher 3 and working), and I have a flexible approach. There are no wrong people, only thoughts that are suitable or unsuitable.

scorp

11 years ago

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Vic, the 7th point seems like it's coming from you, and I'm on your side.

P.S. For everyone who wants to change something (restructuring, etc.), membership in the AC doesn't give you that; you can promote these ideas individually with enough enthusiasm and the right approach.

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=Lizard=

11 years ago

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scorp

...changing something (restructuring, etc.) doesn't come with membership in the AK...

Not entirely accurate, Mish. The point is that such possibilities should at least be discussed at a serious level, rather than being dismissed outright, like Tibetans dismiss the European way of life.

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Kashchei

11 years ago

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=Lizard=

Not quite right, Mish. The point is that such possibilities should at least be discussed at a serious level, and not immediately dismissed, like Tibetans dismiss the European way of life.

There is a restructuring in WoT, and I am glad that the Sodovites are dismissing such ideas, and I am also glad for the Tibetans. Because after the restructuring, ideas like "let's also add a clash in Utopian" will start to emerge, where one has control and the other has a captain's hat.
The direction of HD is very correct – it is necessary to improve the gameplay + templates, everything else is from the devil.
Vika's slogans didn't even cause a slight erection, let alone delight. Cobra's statement about unifying the rules seems interesting. Dirty consistently evokes respect for his unwavering stance on controversial issues, as well as his cunning moves, such as this topic, which provoked the exposure of hidden problems and a number of frank statements, mostly not directed at the current administration.
Of the adequate candidates, besides Dirty, I am ready to vote for Nitro and Redwait

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=Lizard=

11 years ago

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Kashchei

...because after the restructuring, ideas like "let's add another battle in the utopias, so that one side has control and the other just gets a captain's hat" will start to emerge...

I really don't understand where these conclusions come from??? Leading esports disciplines are constantly being modified and balanced. Hey, Dota players, tell me, tell me I'm wrong :). But for some reason, Heroes can't be touched at all - it should remain sacred and medieval, everything is correct:smile28:. And people are also spouting such nonsense. One change that genuinely improves the game by 100% (and I'll repeat for the hundredth time that only someone who knows nothing about it, but just wants to talk and add to the "public opinion," would think otherwise) - and all this one correct change will inevitably lead to 1000 other - stupid and absurd - changes. It's just crazy.

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Heroes13

11 years ago

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=Lizard=

I really don't understand where these conclusions come from??? Leading esports disciplines are constantly changing and being balanced. Hey, Dota players, tell me, tell me I'm wrong :). But for some reason, Heroes can't be touched at all - it should remain medieval.

Balance shouldn't change the game. Many games are tweaked, but they are tweaked in terms of damage, HP, and speed. They are tweaking the characteristics. The first editions of the test versions touched on balance adjustments, and then it became not an adjustment, but an infusion of something new into the game. :smile29: these are still different things.

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=Lizard=

11 years ago

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Heroes13

Balance shouldn't change the game. Many games are tweaked, but they are tweaked in terms of damage, HP, and speed. They are tweaking the stats. The initial versions of the test environment actually touched on balance adjustments, and then it became less about tweaking and more about adding something new to the game. :smile29: I think these are two different things.

No one is arguing with that, and none of the so-called "competitive players" (who, by the way, have been playing 99% of their games in SoD for the last 3 years) have ever mentioned introducing experience for creatures or classes, i.e., things that really define competitive play. Restructuring the guild of mages is, in essence, not a balance adjustment, but rather a way to save at least 20-25% of games on large maps that could be interesting and highly strategic, but instead turned out to be dull and one-sided. However, if the majority of the forum clearly prefers not the game itself, but victories through map layout, then I will cease all further explanations and arguments.

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scorp

11 years ago

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=Lizard=

Not entirely correct, Mish. The point is that such possibilities should at least be discussed at a serious level, and not immediately dismissed, like Tibetans dismiss the European way of life.

I perceive the Advisory Council only as assistance to our community, and not as an organization with some kind of authority.

Regarding "global" changes in the game, I see more drawbacks than advantages in the future. I believe that it will be more difficult to find common ground between players with the "modified" game and "new" players who played on the regular SOD. Different sandboxes are difficult to combine, and regarding the PRO level of championships, I think the rules should bring players to more equal conditions, because while the generator is so random, no changes in the game's physics will equalize the chances of players to 50/50. Perhaps some changes may bring the chances in the game closer to equalization, but I am against this because of the "division of sandboxes"... something like that.

dom2

11 years ago

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Right now, we need to save the current rules, HD+, and HWRules so that we can revert to the standard version. Because people come who want great changes, and we need a great Game.

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Dirty_Player

11 years ago

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=Lizard=

The leading esports disciplines are constantly being modified and balanced.

The point is that they are balanced by the developers; the community has no choice but to accept them because the developers have the right to change the game as they see fit. When changes are made by players, there are always those who disagree, and their opinion is valid.

scorp

I see the AC only as a way to help our community, not as an organization with some kind of authority.

Initially, the idea of the AC was to resolve controversial situations that could not be resolved by the tournament judge. I believe that this is how it should be. As for the rules, there should be a person who is responsible for them, and in our case, that is Pit.

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