Extraterrestrial civilizations. What is your opinion? — Ufology and anomalies.

Ganymed

4/9/2007 1:47 PM UTC

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Some time ago, a friend of mine visited me. He moved from Moscow to a remote area quite a while ago (almost like he became a forest ranger somewhere). He told me that he had the opportunity to talk to God. And, as far as I understood, it wasn't in a "vision" or a dream, but directly through another person (I won't comment on this here, as the topic is different).
Among the many questions he asked, there were questions about extraterrestrial life.
Here's approximately what God said, according to my friend, on this topic (I'm quoting from memory, but only what I remember well).

There are 17 galaxies in the universe, and 14 of them contain life forms. "Do you really think that I only gave you the opportunity to enjoy life?" Moreover, our civilization is at approximately the middle stage of development. That is, as far as I understand, there are more technologically advanced civilizations, and there are some that are very "rudimentary," primitive in their development. But our civilization has progressed much further than the others in the worship and understanding of God, so we are "special" to him in this regard, although he loves "all his children."

I won't comment on this myself, as I'm not an expert in ufology.
What do you think about extraterrestrial civilizations?

Настоящие герои - не те, пред кем мы преклоняемся, а те, кого мы оплевываем...[/COLOR]
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"So much has gone
and little is new"

David Bowie

OptiMAL

4/9/2007 2:01 PM UTC

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If the universe is infinite, then there are also infinitely many galaxies. And as for life on other planets, there are many of them too. :)

:D

Мугайс

4/9/2007 2:11 PM UTC

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I've heard many different theories and versions. The most plausible one, in my opinion, is the story of a guy who met an alien... Nonsense? :) Listen on!

The alien wasn't a dwarf with big eyes or a cosmic monster, but rather looked like a very tall person in a spacesuit. The alien told the guy that Earth had long been discovered by other civilizations, but it doesn't interest them because of its backwardness. The alien said that the guy could tell others about it, or he could choose not to – either way, no one would believe him.

That's it ;)

Подмосковный рейнджер, не ведающий стаха

Agilist

4/9/2007 2:18 PM UTC

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I would like to know that we are not alone...

Умирает не тот, кто устал, а тот, кто остановился.

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Alex Ghost

4/9/2007 2:20 PM UTC

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Agilist;81650

I would like to know that we are not alone...

Of course, it would be interesting to find out what they are like, if they exist – although it might backfire – because we've already been fed enough movies about evil aliens – what if ours launched another rocket at them:rolleyes:

ФЛУДОВСКИЕ ССЫЛКИ - конец бесполезным темам

Ganymed

4/9/2007 2:21 PM UTC

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Agilist;81650

I would like to know that we are not alone...

This somehow "warms" me too :) The awareness that we are not alone in the universe is a source of positivity for me personally.

Настоящие герои - не те, пред кем мы преклоняемся, а те, кого мы оплевываем...[/COLOR]
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"So much has gone
and little is new"

David Bowie

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Agilist

4/9/2007 2:47 PM UTC

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Alex Ghost;81652

Of course it would be interesting to find out what they are like, if they exist—though I wonder if that wouldn't backfire—since we've already been fed movies about evil aliens—lest our people launch another rocket at them:rolleyes:

I liked the program about various spy gadgets. They described a remote-controlled probe that looked like a flying saucer. In the all-beloved USSR (by the way, this was in Ukraine), this probe was not recognized and was shot down. If the policy toward unknown objects hasn't changed, one can imagine what a more advanced civilization (and it is definitely more advanced, since unlike ours, it can fly over for a visit) would do to us. :smile19: + :smile47: = :smile34:

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I have a question about a mystical event. How did my thread migrate from "philosophy" to "ufology"?

Умирает не тот, кто устал, а тот, кто остановился.

Nowizard

4/9/2007 4:18 PM UTC

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I don't deny that there are other civilizations in the universe, and sometimes I even support that idea... But the fact that a guy was talking to GOD? :D Even the appearance of an angel is not given to everyone. And here - bam, here's GOD:D I know what Ganymede will write now: "But how do you know, maybe this is a unique case when God himself appeared, maybe this guy is a prophet" or something like that. There are SO MANY of these "prophets" who "talked" to God, you know.

Бог есть любовь

Silvanis

4/9/2007 8:39 PM UTC

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Interesting... Actually, for me, it would be easier if I were sure that we are alone in the Universe.
Not that I'm afraid of hostile aliens... I'm just afraid that contact between two fundamentally different civilizations (and I'm sure that if aliens exist, they will be fundamentally different from us) is impossible. We already have difficulties understanding even close people - how can we understand aliens whose thinking might follow completely different principles? (example - Strugatsky brothers, "The Little One")

С Пути сбивают мелкие достижения, а изощрённые суждения скрывают смысл слов. И вот уже возникают "правильное" и "неправильное"...
- Чжуан-цзы
Сильванис

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Ganymed

4/9/2007 8:48 PM UTC

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Nowizard;81708

I'm not denying that there are other civilizations in the universe, and in some cases, I even support that idea... But the fact that a guy was talking to GOD? :D Even the appearance of an angel isn't given to everyone. And here – boom, GOD:D

I know what Ganymede will write now: "But how do you know, maybe this is a unique case where God himself appeared, maybe this guy is a prophet" or something along those lines. There are so many "prophets" who have "talked" with God, you know:)

And I won't say anything:

Настоящие герои - не те, пред кем мы преклоняемся, а те, кого мы оплевываем...[/COLOR]
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"So much has gone
and little is new"

David Bowie

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Леля

4/10/2007 11:37 AM UTC

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Nowizard;81708

I don't deny that there are other civilizations in the universe, and in some cases, I even support that idea... But the fact that a man was talking to GOD? :D Even the appearance of an angel is not given to everyone. And here - here you go, GOD:D

Yes, Nowizard is right to some extent. Why would our Creator appear to some "forest ranger"? I also find this suspicious. I would also like to know what the medium's voice sounded like at the time, i.e., the person who was "speaking with God." Because something simple and quite ordinary could have happened to your friend: the appearance of a forest spirit or a demon (call it whatever you want, it's all evil). Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm inclined to believe in the "playing with a naive person" version. :)
As for extraterrestrial civilizations, I can say with full confidence that we are not alone in the Universe. And the stories about various humanoids, I think, are not the ravings of a madman. And the tall "aliens" that are encountered here, on Russian soil, and those that are 3-4 meters tall, are descendants of the Atlanteans. :) Again, I don't rule out the possibility that these versions are incorrect.

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Nowizard

4/10/2007 12:36 PM UTC

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Ganymed;81817

As for me, I'm not saying a word :D I wrote about this incident for informational purposes, without comment. And anyone can talk to God; personally, I'm quite calm about that. God sees the human heart and knows who is capable of talking to Him and who is not.No, people actually talk to God all the time! Otherwise, what are prayers for? And God hears them and helps to the extent that each person deserves or needs. But as for God coming HIMSELF to an ordinary person—I completely agree with Lellen :)

Regarding aliens—I don't know, but I can say for sure: if they exist, then they are humans (outwardly) just like us. And most likely, if they do exist, they're probably laughing their heads off looking at our lives :) Remember the episode from Futurama?
Fry: Bender, who is that over there?
Bender: That's a human.
Fry: And what is he doing?
Bender: The same thing all humans do: loves, deceives, kills, sacrifices himself for others...
Fry: Bo-o-o-ring... :D

Бог есть любовь

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Леля

4/10/2007 12:44 PM UTC

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Nowizard;81930

No, people are constantly talking to God! Otherwise, what are prayers for? And God hears them and helps them to the extent that each person deserves or needs. But for God to come to an ordinary person HIMSELF – I completely agree with Lelyen:)

Regarding aliens – I don't know, but I can say for sure: if they exist, then they are the same people (externally) as we are. And most likely, if they exist, they are probably laughing, looking at our life. :)

Well, it could be. By the way, if you believe Tolkien, then elves, dwarves, and others left the Earth because humans – a gray race – can survive and adapt everywhere. What if these aliens are elves! What a surprise that would be! :D

Берсерк

4/10/2007 12:57 PM UTC

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I believe that aliens do not exist. The evidence is simple: for believers, it is written that Adam and Eve were the first people. No one else was created. Dr. Kent Hovind supports this version. For atheists, I will use two pieces of evidence:

1) (from Ganymede) - If I haven't seen it, I don't know about it.
2) Most UFOs have been explained and turned out to be either objects, phenomena in the atmosphere, or meteors. In general, thousands of explained phenomena confirm that UFOs do not exist.

Well, for those who need more evidence, I won't try to "sell" anything to them. Let them believe. (winking smiley)

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Nowizard

4/10/2007 1:12 PM UTC

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Berserk;81946

I believe that aliens don't exist. The evidence is simple: for believers, it is written that Adam and Eve were the first people. No one else was created. Dr. Kent Hovind supports this version. For atheists, I will use two pieces of evidence:

1) (from Ganymede) - Haven't seen it - don't know.
2) Most UFOs have been explained and were either objects, phenomena in the atmosphere, or meteors. In general, thousands of explained phenomena confirm that UFOs don't exist.

Well, for those who need more, I won't "push" anything on them.
Let them believe. (winking smiley)

Isn't that amazing? God loves people, His children, His creations so much that He created an entire, practically infinite universe for them alone (and initially - for just one person!!!). That's why, even though I don't deny their existence, I still don't think they exist.

Бог есть любовь

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