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SoD. Rework for Mage Guild. Is it needed or not?
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Single choice Public votes Closed 2015-06-09
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Of course, it’s needed
39.1% 36 votes
No, it’s not needed at all
60.9% 56 votes
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Offline высокий
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Everyone wants balance. I'll offer a new idea regarding control. If we don't focus on guilds, will things improve or not? It will require a lot of money and resources... If we tie control to the hero's level, the player who levels up faster will gain control sooner. The idea is that upon reaching, for example, level 15, with Expert Wisdom and a book, the player can choose to add one of three spells to the book: Flight, damage dealer, or Portal. After 5 levels, they can choose from the remaining two... This means that with rapid leveling, the player will have guaranteed control, and everything will depend only on the player themselves.

Guilds will indeed become somewhat less valuable. But there will be some balance. I think reaching level 15 takes some time, so there won't be control for about two weeks. Moreover, overpowered heroes at level 20+ shouldn't have these spells.
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Everyone wants balance. I'll offer a new idea regarding control. If we don't focus on guilds, will they also benefit from the changes or not? It will require a lot of money and resources... If we tie control to the hero's level, whoever levels them up faster will gain control sooner. The idea is that upon reaching, for example, level 15, with Expert Wisdom and a book, the player can choose to add one of three spells to that book: Flight, Direct Damage, or Portal. After 5 more levels, they can choose from the remaining two... This means that with rapid leveling, the player will have guaranteed control, and everything will depend only on the player themselves.

Guilds will indeed become somewhat less valuable. But there will be some balance. I think reaching level 15+ doesn't happen quickly. So, there won't be control for about two weeks. Moreover, overpowered heroes of level 20+ should not have these spells.
We can bring this idea to its logical conclusion - upon reaching 211, the Final Battle should automatically begin. This will solve both the control problem and the problem of overly long games (which are not uncommon on XL+U).
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You can bring this idea to its logical conclusion – after 211 turns, automatically start the Final Battle. This simultaneously solves the control problem and the problem of excessively long games (which are not uncommon on XL+U).
If there is another vote, I will immediately vote against it! :D


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You can bring this idea to its logical conclusion – automatically start the Final Battle when turn 211 arrives. This simultaneously solves the control problem and the problem of excessively long games (which are not uncommon on XL+U).
I wanted to say that it should start on turn 212 to avoid a redraw, but I remembered that redraws were removed on XL+U :D
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rebuilding the norms, but only if you break down the entire game mechanics and start building from scratch:D :D
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Today, on my way to work, I was thinking... Artem and other fans of balance and restructuring, you took the wrong approach from the very beginning. The best option would have been for all those interested to get together, pool their money, and approach Wizard with the words, "For 10k, can you make a mod for us with an option for restructuring?" If he says "yes," you transfer the money to him and receive an experimental mod, let's say version 1.34rgm. You play it, and then it's just a matter of whether people will like it or not. I think this would lead to less arguing and more benefit.
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How can we do without a heated debate?
It's just not possible.
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Healthy debates without personal attacks have never harmed any forum. However, silencing people has harmed many. If tensions start to rise within a community, it's important to allow everyone to express their opinions and vent their frustrations. It might be a bit unpleasant at first, but over time, things will settle down. If you suppress and delete, the tension will still find a way to surface, but in a different place and at a different time, and usually in a less ethical manner.

Recently:
Satyr
It's time for Romantic to retire. It's clear that the burden of responsibility is weighing heavily on him; he needs to be constantly vigilant. Soon, he'll start lacking time for his personal life due to his involvement in the forum, leading to depression and a downward spiral. We need to help the guy.
Juristis
Removing Romantic's moderator status would be the best birthday gift the forum could give me.
kalababa
P.S. I also support removing Romantic's moderator status: peka:
And the vote was 24-8 against the moderator's decision (partly a protest).

Now, Dirty is starting to act like a newbie. For some reason, he decided that he can close down lively discussions that don't violate the forum rules, are relevant to its theme, and don't contain attacks or insults. Simply because "Enough of this nonsense, let's have some fun and move on." Whether something is nonsense or not is probably not for you, Konstantin, to decide. Especially if you didn't create these topics and aren't aware of their purpose.
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Offline WishmasteR
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I also played Heroes of Might and Magic, by the way. Although, I last played a game about 2 years ago, then I completely stopped playing and only recently came back.
As for the restructuring, at first I completely agreed with Vik and voted against it, but after reading the thread, I think I'll agree that as an optional feature, it can be added without forcing players to use it. And then we'll see how it goes.
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Offline KobRa_RR
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Please move all off-topic messages to the forum.

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Vik, if your troll thread was closed, there's no need to start spamming in other people's threads.


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Vik, if your troll thread was closed, it's not necessary to start causing trouble in other people's threads.
It's not about the troll thread; it's not a pity that it was closed, but about the way the decision was presented. There's no point in asking people like you - today, a thread will be closed at your request, tomorrow, it will be closed at someone else's request, and the balance of karma will not be disturbed. Those with the authority to make decisions should have a broader perspective on what is happening.
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Yur, you certainly know the rules well; I see you're teaching Kostya what he can and cannot do, but you should still review them again, especially points 16 and 18, and also point 4.22 of the violation system. So, whether or not to delete your topic is ultimately his decision; personally, I wouldn't touch it – it was amusing, but he has the right to be unhappy, so if he's dissatisfied, he can write an appeal according to all the rules. There's no need to organize a protest here; we'll manage without a "healthy argument."
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Recent post:
SatyrIt's time for Romantic to retire. It's clear that the burden of power is weighing heavily on him; he needs to be constantly vigilant, and soon he'll start lacking time for his personal life due to his activity on the forum, leading to depression and a downward spiral. We need to help the guy.
Juristis
Removing Romantic's moderator status would be the best gift the forum could give me for my birthday.
kalababa
P.S. I also support removing Romantic's moderator status: peka:
And the vote was 24-8 against the moderator's decision (partly a protest).Oh, you scared me, oh I'm so afraid. I've always said, and I'm saying it now, if the forum doesn't need what I'm doing, I'll gladly relinquish my powers. I think any moderator could say the same. What we do doesn't give us any privileges, but it causes so much trouble.
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Now, Dirty is starting to act like a bronze-level player. For some reason, he decided that he can close live discussions that don't violate the forum rules, are relevant to its theme, and don't contain attacks or insults. Just because "Enough of this nonsense, we've had our fun, let's move on." Whether something is nonsense or not is probably not for you, Konstantin, to decide. Especially if you didn't create these topics and aren't aware of their purpose.
Yura, I respect you, but let's not have you tell me what to do; I really don't like that. You'll be arguing with DaU that your topic about experience isn't trolling. Also, it's not up to you to talk about the forum rules (which you probably haven't even read), because if you strictly follow them, you would have already earned enough violation points for a permanent ban.

P.S. If at least 2-3 people write in the feedback section or in ICQ that one of these topics is useful and needed, I will immediately restore it.
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Yeah, Vic, and me. Exactly 3 people. Let's get this started! XD.
I think we should create more poll topics, because truth is born from debate.
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