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The uniform instills discipline and elevates the students' thoughts.
KindShaman
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MedjersoN_HP
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This isn't very intuitive, by the way.
В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.
I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better
Смысл жизни в том, что жизнь на тебе не заканчивается
Ple-Sen
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Children from wealthy and impoverished families attend the same school, but everyone wears the same uniform. This promotes social tolerance. Children are less likely to bully those who are less well-dressed. As a result, they grow up to be slightly less aggressive.
Ment
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Children from wealthy and impoverished families attend the same school, but everyone wears the same uniform. This promotes social tolerance. Children don't bully those who are less well-dressed. As a result, they grow up slightly less aggressive.
So, they are more likely to grow up narrow-minded and insecure because they cannot dress in what they want. Or (in the case of brainwashing, as with Artsa), they become ultra-patriots who, by definition, behave aggressively towards everyone who does not belong to their social group.
Ple-Sen
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I agree with Ment, including his point about clothing. In all cases where I've witnessed criticism of students' clothing, that criticism came not from peers, but from teachers. I also agree with his opinion regarding the reasons why school uniforms are introduced in the first place.
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Ple-Sen
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Ah, yes, I disagree with the opinion about "ripped jeans."
Ment
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I — II — III
Atlantis, Atlantis Police Department, 14:21
Mark Claudius was saved from the stress caused by the huge amount of paperwork by coffee. Strong, thick, and aromatic, just like Rex Ventorum's policies.
“Ah, sometimes I miss the old days. There were more criminals in Atlantis, and we had more work too. That is, real work, not this.” Mark lowered his heavy hand onto a pile of documents.
“Seriously?” Gai Emilius, like Mark Claudius, was an officer at the Atlantis Police Department.
“No. Of course, I’m glad that we managed to make the streets of Atlantis safer; it’s just that this job is driving me crazy. I need action, adrenaline!”
“If you were younger and didn’t have a family, I would recommend transferring to Anhui; there your desire for action would benefit not only you but also the province.”
“Anhui? Why?”
“You’re getting burnt out, my friend! Haven’t you seen the latest reports or even the news? Praetor Shin Si Yong was shot dead in broad daylight in the city center.”
“I see. Did local gangsters do the job?”
“It’s hard to say; all that is clear is that this was the work of a professional.”
Anhui, Tangun Club, VIP area, 22:03
“She sings well.” The Tangun Dragon occupied the same place as during their last meeting. As agreed upon a week ago, Hwang Ji Hyo arrived at the Tangun Club at the appointed time. However, he did not expect Zhong Sang Kwon to meet him in person again. “Don’t you think so, Detective?”
“Perhaps.” Hwang Ji Hyo didn't want to admit it, but this place was indeed appealing. If it weren’t for the shady dealings taking place behind the scenes, it could be called stylish and quite decent.
“Here is what you asked for.” Zhong handed the detective a folder with files. “Keep in mind that I don’t enjoy cooperating with a police officer; however…”
“…The presence of whites on your territory does not please the Tangun Dragon any more. The Anhui criminal trio is gradually losing market share to the Velox mafia; I know. Did they also organize the murder of the praetor?”
“Cui bono, as they say in Rex Ventorum.”
Anhui, Tangun Club, at the same time
“Sir, can I do anything for you?” A club employee was dressed in a dark women’s jacket, a matching classic skirt, and a white shirt. She addressed the man who was sitting alone. “If you wish, we can arrange company for you.”
“No need. A cup of green tea and a light dinner would be fine.”
“Of course. Just a moment.”
When the girl left, the visitor answered his mobile phone.
“I’m listening.”
“I saw the news. I understand you are free now?”
“That's right.”
“In that case, I have a job for you.”
“Target?”
“... Consul.”
“Oh.”
Atlantis, Atlantis Police Department, 14:21
Mark Claudius was saved from the stress caused by the huge amount of paperwork by coffee. Strong, thick, and aromatic, just like Rex Ventorum's policies.
“Ah, sometimes I miss the old days. There were more criminals in Atlantis, and we had more work too. That is, real work, not this.” Mark lowered his heavy hand onto a pile of documents.
“Seriously?” Gai Emilius, like Mark Claudius, was an officer at the Atlantis Police Department.
“No. Of course, I’m glad that we managed to make the streets of Atlantis safer; it’s just that this job is driving me crazy. I need action, adrenaline!”
“If you were younger and didn’t have a family, I would recommend transferring to Anhui; there your desire for action would benefit not only you but also the province.”
“Anhui? Why?”
“You’re getting burnt out, my friend! Haven’t you seen the latest reports or even the news? Praetor Shin Si Yong was shot dead in broad daylight in the city center.”
“I see. Did local gangsters do the job?”
“It’s hard to say; all that is clear is that this was the work of a professional.”
Anhui, Tangun Club, VIP area, 22:03
“She sings well.” The Tangun Dragon occupied the same place as during their last meeting. As agreed upon a week ago, Hwang Ji Hyo arrived at the Tangun Club at the appointed time. However, he did not expect Zhong Sang Kwon to meet him in person again. “Don’t you think so, Detective?”
“Perhaps.” Hwang Ji Hyo didn't want to admit it, but this place was indeed appealing. If it weren’t for the shady dealings taking place behind the scenes, it could be called stylish and quite decent.
“Here is what you asked for.” Zhong handed the detective a folder with files. “Keep in mind that I don’t enjoy cooperating with a police officer; however…”
“…The presence of whites on your territory does not please the Tangun Dragon any more. The Anhui criminal trio is gradually losing market share to the Velox mafia; I know. Did they also organize the murder of the praetor?”
“Cui bono, as they say in Rex Ventorum.”
Anhui, Tangun Club, at the same time
“Sir, can I do anything for you?” A club employee was dressed in a dark women’s jacket, a matching classic skirt, and a white shirt. She addressed the man who was sitting alone. “If you wish, we can arrange company for you.”
“No need. A cup of green tea and a light dinner would be fine.”
“Of course. Just a moment.”
When the girl left, the visitor answered his mobile phone.
“I’m listening.”
“I saw the news. I understand you are free now?”
“That's right.”
“In that case, I have a job for you.”
“Target?”
“... Consul.”
“Oh.”
MedjersoN_HP
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Unlikely. Seriously, I often see such arguments, but I've never seen children compare clothes. Phones, as Ples suggested, maybe. Clothes? That's just ridiculous. On the contrary, the more tattered your jeans, the more authoritative you are; it's obvious.
So, rather, they grow up narrow-minded and insecure because they can't wear what they want.
I didn't quite mean that when I talked about clothes. Children will always find something to tease or bully others about. Whether it's different clothes, a surname, hobbies, a reaction, or anything else.
But if you take the situation: uniforms are introduced. And a poor family buys this miserable jacket and trousers for half their salary, while a rich family buys them without a second thought. But the children look the same. This possible psychological barrier is eliminated, that "he's different, not like me." The stratification is partially smoothed out.
I'm not saying that all children bully each other because of clothes, not at all. But if there are even 5% of cases where "we won't be friends with you, you're dressed like a bum," then uniforms will eliminate them. Yes, there will be the other 95% of cases where children are bullied for other reasons, but at least the children can solve those themselves.
p.s. Will children be "narrow-minded and insecure because they can't wear what they want"? Please. :D What nonsense. A child must be psychologically stable enough just to attend school. So, whoever becomes narrow-minded because of such trivial things will have a hard time in life. Moreover, children can wear whatever they want after school.
Of course, many people don't like uniforms; that's normal. But to develop complexes because of this is an exaggeration.
В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.
I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better
Смысл жизни в том, что жизнь на тебе не заканчивается
Ple-Sen
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But the children look the same. This potential psychological barrier has been eliminated, the idea that "he is different, not like me."
MedjersoN_HP
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Or, on the contrary, it might exacerbate the situation. Everyone looks the same, which means people with quirks will stand out even more. And again, it will be the same old story: "He's not like us, we don't want to interact with him." Besides, uniforms have the annoying habit of wearing out, getting stained, and tearing. So, as a result, the wealthy will often wear new and good-looking uniforms, while the less fortunate will wear patched and stained ones.
Children grow faster than uniforms wear out, I assure you. Unless they're wearing hand-me-downs from older siblings.
В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.
I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better
Смысл жизни в том, что жизнь на тебе не заканчивается
Ple-Sen
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If a child has a "quirk" like picking their nose in class or bothering boys, whether or not they wear a uniform makes no difference.
Children grow faster than uniforms wear out, I assure you. Unless they're wearing hand-me-downs from older siblings.
MedjersoN_HP
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So, what kind of "elimination of the psychological barrier" are you talking about in your previous post? Leaving aside the fact that the things you mentioned are hardly quirks. But someone quiet and uncommunicative, for example, might be ridiculed. Someone who walks a little strangely. Someone whose last name is "funny" (for example, the last name Vagina for a girl).
I assure you, it all depends on the child, but the uniform usually lasts for at least two years. Sometimes even longer. There may be exceptions during puberty, but on average, it's as I said. And, of course, it can be worn for longer.
I'm saying the same thing, that it usually lasts for two years, and then the child may outgrow it. And that's often the case.
p.s. Vagin, by the way, is a very common last name.
В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.
I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better
Смысл жизни в том, что жизнь на тебе не заканчивается
Ment
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But let's consider the situation. A uniform is introduced. And a poor family buys this miserable jacket and trousers for half their salary, while a rich family buys it without a second thought. But the children look the same. This eliminates a possible psychological barrier, the idea that "he's different, not like me." The social divide is partially smoothed out.
And it's the same here. If there's a chance that children will treat a classmate with a worse financial situation badly (although it's hard to imagine, but let's assume), then what do jackets have to do with it? Implement a social program, some kind of charity... Sponsor schools so that they can organize help for their poor students and buy clothes for those who don't have the money for it. Because that's what will solve the root of the problem, right?
Will children be "inhibited and have complexes because they can't dress in what they want"? Please. What nonsense. A child must be psychologically stable enough just to attend school. So, whoever becomes inhibited because of such trivial things will have a hard time in life anyway. Moreover, children can wear whatever they want after school.
Of course, many people don't like uniforms; that's normal. But to develop complexes because of this is an exaggeration.
I myself haven't completely forgotten my time as a schoolchild. And honestly, when you have teachers who don't exert excessive authority. When you have a semi-free school uniform (we only had to wear gray jackets, of almost any color. And no other requirements. And even the jackets themselves didn't have to be worn constantly). When you're not forced to keep a diary, but instead, you just go to school with a university grade book. All of this is incredibly motivating! You just feel like you can move mountains, you're doing something, not just some nonsense.
Against this background, the kids from schools who wore strictly identical blue jackets with identical black trousers and white shirts looked ridiculous. They were just clones...
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