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It’s a shame we didn’t have a girl with that last name in our class. I would have enjoyed laughing about it even now!
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Will children be "insecure and have complexes because they can't wear what they want"? Please. What nonsense. A child needs to be psychologically stable enough just to attend school. Therefore, if someone develops complexes because of such trivial things, life will be difficult for them anyway. Moreover, children can wear whatever they want after school.
Of course, many people don't like uniforms, and that's normal. But to develop complexes because of this is an exaggeration.
I think I'll agree. If someone has complexes because of the uniform, then something is clearly wrong with them. And they will be bullied in any case. Because they bully primarily not those who are "different," but those who are psychologically unstable. And by the way, "quiet and uncommunicative" is often perceived as "insecure and lacking confidence."
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Yes, I see. Now, let's reason like this. We have two lions and one lioness in the enclosure. One lion is dominant and has essentially claimed the lioness for himself. What do we do? Well, let's give the lions some catnip so that the second lion can have some fun and won't be so upset. But... wouldn't it be better to separate the lions into different enclosures and give the second lion another lioness? Wouldn't that solve the root of the problem instead of doing something unclear for an unclear reason?
Oh... I don't even know what to say. It seems we are talking about completely different things. Okay, let's go through it step by step.
1) You're talking about the root of the problem, but you're considering a different problem. As I understand it from the text, it's something like, "we need to solve the problem of poverty, not just hand out candy to the poor so they won't be so upset."
But I'm talking about a different problem. If we consider my point of view in relation to the lions, the problem looks like this: one lion was born albino and is not accepted by the pride. Of course, you could put him in a different enclosure, and that's an option. But for the (lion) society, I think it would be better if he lived with everyone. Therefore, you could dye all the lions the same color, and then they wouldn't perceive him as an outsider.
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The same applies here. If there's a chance that children will treat a classmate with a lower socioeconomic status badly (although it's really hard to imagine, but let's assume), then what do school uniforms have to do with it? Implement a social program, some kind of charity... Sponsor schools so that they can organize help for their poor students and buy clothes for those who don't have the money for it. After all, that's what would solve the root of the problem, right?
Here, understand me correctly, Ment. I was asked the question, "why does a uniform promote pacifism?" That's all. I didn't say that uniforms are a means of fighting poverty, etc. I agree that a good solution to fight poverty is "social programs, charity," etc.
Moreover, uniforms are not introduced in order to "avoid conflicts between children over clothing." It's just a positive side effect. And uniforms also instill discipline, and it's convenient for teachers (at least I heard positive feedback when I was in school).
Ment
I disagree with this position. It seems like all of this is trivial, but at a young age, it really matters, even when it's not consciously realized. Young children are very impressionable; it seems like nothing happened, but in reality, any little thing will definitely settle in the subconscious.
Of course, children are more unstable and impressionable, and they are more easily influenced. But that's why they have parents and teachers. If a child has some kind of problem (they are being teased, someone is looking up their skirt with a mirror, they are being thrown with a dirty rag, they don't like the school uniform), the child should know that they can turn to someone with this problem. And then the parents, after listening to them, will help find the right solution to the situation, perhaps encourage them, or explain the benefits of a uniform or porridge in the morning.
Of course, if a child is in a vacuum, they may develop complexes. But that's not a problem with the school uniform.
Ment
I haven't completely forgotten my time as a schoolchild. And honestly, when you have teachers who don't exert authority. When you have a semi-free school uniform (we just had to wear gray jackets, of any color. And no other requirements. And the jackets themselves were easy to have on hand, not necessarily to wear all the time). When you're not forced to keep a diary, but instead you just go to school with a university grade book. All of this is incredibly motivating! You just feel like you can move mountains, you're doing something, not just wasting time.
At one time, I had a uniform that was strictly fixed in color, etc., and then I had a semi-free one, with any color, and it wasn't necessary to wear it, like yours. So, I personally didn't feel a big difference. There was only one plus, that it was easier to buy a uniform because you didn't have to worry about the color.
Regarding clones... well, do you think that a uniform somehow limits the development or imagination of a child? And will "clones" be stupider than those who have a free uniform?

В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.

I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better

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Wow, I didn't expect that a random increase in a metric based on responding to an issue could spark such a discussion.

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One lion was born an albino and is not accepted by the pride... Therefore, you can paint all the lions the same color, and then they will not perceive him as an outsider.
This only confirms what I'm saying. Why – see the answer to the next one.
I was asked the question "why does uniform increase pacifism?". Nothing more.
Stop. That's right. But – you claim that the difference in material well-being (which is expressed, among other things, in clothing) in some cases can lead to a child being bullied. Hence, aggression, hence the lack of pacifism. Is that right?) If not, then the uniform will not have any positive effect on pacifism.
In the case of lions, the albinoism of a lion is a problem in itself, and not its external manifestation. Painting the lions is one way to solve it, a rather crude one, but it solves the problem.
Of course, if a child is in a vacuum, they may develop complexes. But this is not a problem of the school uniform.
) I was saying that it is a problem of everything, of all factors, including the uniform. I may be wrong... But still, my own modest experience tells me that things are stored in the subconscious, which you may not even consciously notice. This is especially true in childhood. It is not a problem. Not some kind of horror that needs to be urgently solved and all that. But in the future, it may have an impact, and therefore it is better to take even such small things into account.
Regarding clones... well, you don't think that the uniform somehow limits the development, the child's imagination? And will the "clones" be stupider than those with free-form clothing?
It doesn't limit anything. But it can still have an impact. However, this is no longer relevant to the topic
 

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We didn't have a uniform, and I regret it now. The uniform looks amazing and, in any case, promotes discipline.
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Stop. That's correct. But – you claim that the difference in financial status (which is expressed, among other things, in clothing) in some cases can lead to a child being bullied. Hence, aggression, hence the lack of pacifism. Is that right? ) If not, then the uniform will not have any positive effect on pacifism.
I understand what you're getting at.
"You claim that the difference in financial status (which is expressed, among other things, in clothing) in some cases can lead to a child being bullied. Hence, aggression, hence the lack of pacifism. Is that right?" Yes, exactly.
There is a problem: poverty.
There is a consequence of it, which is also a problem: a child is bullied at school because of their clothes.
You say: the root is in the first problem.
I say: I agree with you, but the uniform should not solve the first problem; it solves the second.
You see, you could ignore the second problem, solve the first, and the second will solve itself. But at a minimum, the first is solved at the state level over decades, and the second is solved at the school level in one month. And your suggestion to "look at the root" will not help the child who is being bullied because of their clothes. He will have already finished school by the time you eradicate poverty.
Ment
In the case of lions, albinism in a lion is a problem in itself, and not its external manifestation. Painting the lions is one way to solve it, albeit a rather crude one, but it solves the problem.
No, no, no, no, no! :D
A painted lion remains an albino. Painting also only solves the external manifestation, but not the problem. The paint will eventually come off. But if it's like in Nationstates, "thousands of mini-abortions until a normal one is born," or changing the gene pool – that solves the problem.
Ment
) I was saying that it is a problem of everything, of all factors, including the uniform. I may be wrong... But still, my own modest experience tells me that things are stored in the subconscious that you may not even consciously notice. This is especially true in childhood. It's not a problem. Not some kind of nightmare that needs to be urgently solved and all that. But in the future, it may have an impact, and therefore it is better to at least take even such small things into account.
A very delicate matter. It may have an impact? Well, maybe.
I would reason like this. Is there a direct cause-and-effect relationship? A child is beaten and humiliated at school -> he will grow up with complexes.
But I can't say that about the uniform. Well, perhaps, under certain circumstances, it may have a bad effect. But on the other hand, just as easily, the absence of a uniform under certain circumstances can turn a child into a spoiled narcissist, etc.
Ment, it's all very subtle. I'm not convinced, sorry.

В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.

I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better

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Some people feel capable of creativity and self-expression, while I graduated from a gymnasium and wore a strict uniform my whole life; as a result, when I looked at kids from regular schools in worn-out sweaters, hoodies, and jeans, I couldn't help but perceive them as homeless people.
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With military recruitment numbers down, there's been some discussion in civilian circles of relaxing 'sodomy' regulations in the armed forces in order to allow homosexuals to serve openly. However, with the occasional reports from the field of suspected homosexuals being beaten by their squadmates, some wonder if such measures are really appropriate for the notoriously conservative culture of Sciencecracy's military.
The Debate

"There will never be room for gays in our God-fearing service," says Army Chaplain Orel Roze, absent-mindedly fingering the religious device of his office on his lapel. "I mean, uh, think about what it would do to morale. In the military men have to eat, live, and sleep in extremely close quarters and even consensual sexual relationships in the chain of command leads to leadership problems. It's just a natural extension of fraternization rules... and not only that, but our current policy is actually a service to the poor misguided souls, since it prevents any temptation to act on their given perversion... I mean preference."

"God doesn't enter into it," says Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Marleen Smith, head shaking. "Times are changing, and people are becoming more accepting of homosexuals. We have women in the military, and that surely leads to 'temptation', but for the most part everyone's quite professional about it. Allowing homosexuals to serve openly will increase our recruitment pool and actually simplify things; just look at the Navy: hundreds of horny men in steel boxes in the middle of the ocean for up to six months at a time... there has to be a reason that people volunteer for that, right?"
This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.

"This coming from some pampered soul in the Chair Force," scoffs Commander Brian Licorish, calling in via satellite from aboard a destroyer. "Inter-service rivalries aside, ever read some of those ancient sagas about cities being besieged? Those ancient cultures had no problem with homosexuality; actually, it strengthened their resolve and spirit because they were literally fighting alongside their lovers, and anyone in the service will tell you it's all about the guy standing next to you. Now, what if--and this is just a hypothetical, mind--based on this and to counter years of discrimination, only homosexuals were allowed to serve?"
Oh, these religious folks. They don't understand anything about true, strong, masculine, Spartan friendship, which only makes the army stronger.
I just don't understand what they're suggesting in the third option. Please help me.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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I just don't understand what they're suggesting in the third option. Please help.
"Army of Lovers." Allow only homosexuals to serve.

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"An army of lovers." Allow only homosexuals to serve.
Lol. And end up with no army.
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You can choose this option and, by looking at the self-defense line, find out how many homosexuals there are in your country.
Well, not all homosexuals become soldiers. So, I won't find out.
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Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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