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Let’s not clutter the tournament thread. You can chat in the forum.

Yesterday and today, I had an unpleasant conversation with a portal member. I'll describe the situation because it's bothering me, and it's better that I write about it than let him smear me with whatever filth he pleases just because he felt like it.

1. On Monday, as usual, I posted a request for a wager game. Someone named BillyBons responded. Our correspondence regarding the game is in (Screens 1-8). We started the game and played for 2 hours until turn 116. Suddenly, his girlfriend returned and demanded attention, saying it was midnight and time to sleep. I reached turn 116 and passed the turn. He began moving. I wrote that I had to go offline and left the game, as it's logical that he would be prompted to save on his turn (and later he writes that he was in a battle, which confirms my suspicions), and everything would be fine. We would continue from his save.

2. So, I went to sleep, woke up in the morning, and suddenly a flood of offline private messages hit me: (Screen 9) "if you play fair you should have told me to make a save! i'm sorry". Well, I thought okay, it happens—the guy got distracted and didn't save; we'll start from mine. But that wasn't the case. The lad thought that I had been crushed by some AI and decided to go offline (though I never do that).

3. So yesterday afternoon I wrote back to him about this, saying that since the turn was passed to you, you should have saved. It's your fault for not doing it before going about your business. (Screen 10). I came back hours later and wrote to him, but he wasn't there. I sat down to play with Hel, and then I left to play a tournament game scheduled for the evening with bubich. He pinged me once in the evening, then twice. I was in-game. He was desperate to finish the match. (Screens 11, 12). I told him that we would definitely finish it since I'm online often.

4. Then came the complaints that I supposedly didn't want to finish and a suggestion from him that I should surrender based on this fact, just so as not to waste time. I explained everything to him in plain terms (in screen 13) and he seemed to understand, albeit with great sarcasm, like I'm some kind of Caesar. At one in the morning, I wrote to him to finish the game, but he had already gone offline.

5. A new day for this long-suffering match (today). So I got up, brushed my teeth, ate, and with fresh strength, wrote to the lad again to finish the game: (Screen 14).

6. Then something strange started. The password was incorrect. I said that everything is fine with my password—enter yours. He also says it's fine and that the fault is on my end. (Screens 15, 16).

7. After creating the game for the 10th time, when the password was again incorrect, I gave him my password and told him to launch it in single player to check whose password was wrong. (Screen 17).

8. After that, I created the game again. In-game, I asked him once more to double-check the password—I said that I always use one password and there can't be an error. The game failed to launch again and even crashed, which is what I wrote to him. (Screen 18). After numerous attempts to start, I offered a draw in the chat (no screen, it wasn't in ICQ), just so we could part ways peacefully and not continue our mutual torture, although by that time I had scouted 6 hives, 2 Griffin Conservatory, 4 Naga banks along the road—in short, a very good distribution. He refused the draw.

9. After that, I'd finally had enough and asked for his password to check if it really was my fault or if the game was glitching. I opened single player, entered the passwords—it didn't start. I swapped the passwords—everything launched. Well, I thought some kind of lag in the game. For some reason, the game swapped the passwords and now I have to enter his, and he mine. A ridiculous idea, but it seemed logical to me then. I opened the chat, and here came another flood: "you are simply not honest DON'T WRITE TO ME I WILL TELL EVERYONE WHAT YOU ARE! FORGET MY ICQ YOU HAVE THE BLACK MARK!" (Screen 19).

I'll overlook the grammar, punctuation errors, and all that. I told him my thoughts and suggested we just swap passwords so we could continue the game. (screen 19).

10. We enter the passwords, launch the game. Everything launched. Only I don't recognize the position at all. And I don't remember playing this. I ask him in ICQ "what kind of game is this even"? He leaves the game and writes to me in ICQ: "i am tower". Well, then everything became clear. It turns out we mixed up the factions. He was playing Tower, and I was Citadel. I forgot about it since a couple of days had passed and I have a bunch of other games and things to do, and he never once mentioned that I was setting him as the wrong faction. Which is why I logically asked: "why didn't he say he was playing tower?" (Screen 20). No answer followed.

11. In two hours we finished the match. I won without a chance with 29 ducks, bears and other stuff on turn 126 or so. And then he writes to me that I tried to trick him into giving his password to see his layout, and also that I apparently lost on turn 116 to the AI, which dealt "irreparable damage" to me, which is why I left that evening. (Screens 21 and 22).

In short, according to him, I'm a noob and a cheater. The AI kills me on turn 116 without a chance, yet I cheat and don't surrender. After this, I beg for a draw. He says he will write that I am a cheater and let people figure it out. Terrible. Anyway, this was the final straw and led to everything written above.

Epilogue: I will not play with this schoolboy anymore, and I don't recommend others do either. You'll get a full load of crap. BillyBons, you don't need to send money for my phone, thanks, I'll manage without it.

P.S. I hope my post hasn't violated any forum rules.
P.P.S. Game saves and screens are attached in archives at the links:
1. saves: https://yadi.sk/d/LWD3J3FGetAuN
2. screens: https://yadi.sk/d/ir20G2SXetAuU

Yesterday and today, I had an unpleasant conversation with a member of the portal. I will describe the situation because it bothers me, and it's better for me to write about it than for him to spread all sorts of dirt about me, just because he feels like it.

SevenSan, that's what the AK (presumably an internal dispute resolution system) exists for – to resolve such disputes without bringing them to the forum. The fact that you want to portray yourself as a hero is understandable, but there's too much childish nonsense in your fluffy story.

SevenSan, that's what the AK is for – to resolve such disputes without bringing them to the forum. It's understandable that you want to show yourself as a hero, but there's too much childish babble in your fluffy story.

There are too many unsubstantiated opinions in your meaningless post. Don't start a flame war in this thread.

If I were your lawyer, I would suggest filing a motion for leniency, arguing that you were in a state of emotional distress at the time of the aforementioned incident. There is a good chance of success in court, as a rational mind cannot accept the combination of:

a request for a game with a bet

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Someone named BillyBons responded

:smile26:

Too many unsubstantiated arguments in your pointless post. Don't start a flame war in this thread.

The pointlessness is your post here, in the public forum. What's the purpose of it being here?
To show how great you are? You haven't convinced anyone.

Why did you even pass him the turn if "your girlfriend came back" and you weren't planning on playing anymore?

I told him about my thoughts and suggested simply swapping the passwords so that we could continue the game.

So, you loaded the save, played with different factions, and started begging for the password?

I forgot about it because a couple of days had passed, and I have a lot of games and other things to do, and he never said anything about me putting him in the wrong Castle.

How busy you are :D :D Sure, only you can be like that, no one else :D.

So, you started playing a game with a guy who has been on the forum for a month, then you left yourself in the first week, then you cheated "forgetting" who you were playing as while loading automatically, begged for the password, and ultimately won.

And what can be thought of you?

Epilogue: I won't play with this kid anymore, and I don't recommend that others do either. You'll get a lot of grief. BillyBons, you don't need to send me money for the phone, thanks, I'll manage without it.

- Noble, Don Sevensan :D That's the way :D

Finished reading the text. I suggest introducing the position of a full-time addiction specialist in the AK.

Everything is working now. I just don't recognize the position. And I don't remember playing it. I ask him in the chat, "What game is this?" He leaves the game and writes to me in the chat: "I'm a Tower." Well, then everything became clear. It turns out we mixed up the castles.

The pointlessness is in your post here, in the public forum. What is its purpose?
To show how great you are? You didn't convince me.

I described the situation. I didn't aim to convince you. Who are you?

Why did you even pass the turn to him if "your girlfriend came back" and you weren't going to play anymore?

I passed the turn and went to sleep. Doesn't it make sense? Sorry.

So, you were loading the save, using cheats, and then started begging for the password?

You're an inattentive troll. After 10 attempts, I gave him my password (without asking for his) and it still didn't work. I suggested a draw, and only after that did I get annoyed and start figuring out his password.

How busy :D :D Yeah, yeah, only you can be like that, no one else :D.

You can be too. Read your own posts, it's all just arguing and provocation. Is your girlfriend not letting you?

So, you started playing a game with a guy who has been on the forum for a month, then you ran away in the first week, then you cheated "forgetting" who you were playing as, loaded an auto-save, begged for the password, and in the end, you won.

And what can be thought of you?

1. I leave when circumstances require it. Are you going to forbid me?
2. I forget, it happens. I often don't remember who I'm playing as. Those I play with will confirm.
3. Begged? Why don't you go away?
4. I won fairly. Yes.
5. You didn't even look at the saves. Never mind. You keep talking.

- Noble, Don Sevennsan :D That's the only way :D

Well, you're a troll, aren't you?

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If I were your lawyer, I would suggest filing a motion for leniency, arguing that you were in a state of emotional distress at the time of the aforementioned actions. There are good legal prospects for this, because a sane mind refuses to accept the combination:
:smile26:

I play with different people often. There are people like that. Are you also on the list of trolls?

I'll keep it short.
You're a dishonest player.

and I recommend lowering your status.

It feels like someone decided to bring up some old grievances against Sevensan... Honestly. The person explained everything clearly, perhaps with minor inaccuracies in the wording, which is inevitable when writing long posts. And BillyBones responds with short, irrelevant answers, neither confirming nor denying the story described by Sevensan, which leads one to conclude that Sevensan's story is very close to the truth. The only thing I don't understand is why this was posted in the AK section (since there are no complaints about the game itself), as it would have been more appropriate for the discussion forum.

I explained the situation.

Why?

My goal wasn't to convince you. Who are you anyway?

You don't need to.

Passed my turn and went to sleep. Doesn't it make sense? Sorry.

It doesn't. What was the point of your move if he can't play?

You're just an inattentive troll.

And you, apparently, are very attentive and not a troll at all :D.

You could do the same. Read your own posts; they're full of arguments and provocations. Is something wrong with your love life?

Sevensan is the one who has problems.

Or maybe it's just a bug in the game.

No, it turns out that attentive Sevensan is buggy.

1. I leave when circumstances require it. Will you forbid me?

Pfft. That's normal. To start playing and then immediately leave, passing your turn knowing that he won't be able to play without you – that's okay.
And then complain about why he didn't save. It's his fault. Of course.

2. I forgot, it happens. I often don't remember which faction I'm playing as. Those I play with can confirm this.

Are you on drugs or something?

3. Did you cheat? Why not go away?

Well, what are you doing right now? You're still showing off for everyone.

4. Won fairly. Yeah, sure.

Good job. But I don't understand why such an experienced player behaves like this. It was obvious that the first game for money against a newbie would consist entirely of detective-like suspicions.

But you just refuse to look at things from his perspective.
- started and immediately left
- nonsense during the endgame
- nonsense when loading
- cheated by getting the password
- turns out, it was all because: "I forgot, it happens. I often don't remember which faction I'm playing." Sounds convincing.
- won, knowing the layout and having the password.

In the end, only one of you is innocent. Although, regarding the save on 116, both of you messed up. One passed their turn without intending to play, and the other didn't think to save when you left.
And with his load – both of you messed up. You have a terrible memory, and he didn't pay attention to where everything was (if he even had time given how long it took to load).

5. You didn't even look at the saves. Nothing. Just keep ranting.

Why should I look at your saves if there's your own description of what happened? It's so interesting.

Okay, let those who signed up for this sort it out.
For me, everything is clear anyway. I'm done.

ps: and don't get upset :D

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It feels like someone decided to bring up some old grievances... honestly...

I don't have any grudges against him. I just don't understand this outburst. What did he expect from him? That he would "understand" like Hellight or Gomunguls? Lol.
But at least he wasn't lazy about giving a recommendation – that was decent.

I'll vouch for Sevensan. I also played against BillyBons, with a bet. Twice, the first time he transferred the debt after losing, but the second time he didn't. The amount wasn't large, $5. After several reminders and his promises, he still didn't transfer anything.
Well, whatever, I thought, and I forgot about this debt. So, there's no point in talking about Billy's honesty. If anyone needs it, I can send a screenshot of the correspondence.
In this situation, Sevensan is 100% right.
The only thing is that maybe we should make allowances for the fact that he's a new player on this portal and doesn't "understand" everything.

it's time to give out an award - "honorable warner of 2015" :D

and I support Vika about the addiction specialist))

P.S. don't mess up yourself, so that there are no mistakes, and then you start asking others:smile17:

Sevensan is simply overreacting – it’s unpleasant to be called a cheater in private messages, but bringing it up on the forum is not a good idea – even if you “put down” a newbie, the forum won’t benefit much from it. It’s a different story when you expose a high-level cheater or if you haven’t made any mistakes yourself (even unintentional ones).