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Group stage tables.
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special_k
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Does he even want it?
well, if he's presented with a fait accompli.
Dirty_Player
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But why not make the first seed in the group responsible for running the rounds within that group?
AYMAN
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I agree with the complaints mentioned above regarding prearranged draws.
In my opinion, a draw as a result of a game in tournaments should be rare and only occur in exceptional cases. And perhaps not only based on the mutual agreement of two players, but also with the oversight of the tournament judges.
Let me explain with an example: Player 1 and Player 2 are tired of playing a difficult match and believe that a draw is a natural outcome. They verbally come to this conclusion and then submit the save file to the judge. The judges review the save file, and it turns out, for example, that there is a situation of "power vs. control," and the judge approves the draw. Moreover, the save file can be presented to everyone, including Player 3 (who, hypothetically, suffered from the prearranged draw). And the opposite situation is also possible; when the save file is analyzed, it turns out that there is no draw at all, but rather all the characteristic signs of unfair play, i.e., a prearranged game.
The immediate drawback of this idea is the additional workload on the judges when analyzing "draw save files."
In my opinion, a draw as a result of a game in tournaments should be rare and only occur in exceptional cases. And perhaps not only based on the mutual agreement of two players, but also with the oversight of the tournament judges.
Let me explain with an example: Player 1 and Player 2 are tired of playing a difficult match and believe that a draw is a natural outcome. They verbally come to this conclusion and then submit the save file to the judge. The judges review the save file, and it turns out, for example, that there is a situation of "power vs. control," and the judge approves the draw. Moreover, the save file can be presented to everyone, including Player 3 (who, hypothetically, suffered from the prearranged draw). And the opposite situation is also possible; when the save file is analyzed, it turns out that there is no draw at all, but rather all the characteristic signs of unfair play, i.e., a prearranged game.
The immediate drawback of this idea is the additional workload on the judges when analyzing "draw save files."
Nestor86
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3 points for a win and a fixed date for the rounds. Getting out of the situation.
Match-fixing has existed, exists, and will exist.
I don't see any violations in the fact that both players agree to a draw (i.e., they acknowledge that they are not stronger than each other at the moment).
And in general, in Heroes, one player often has a better setup than the other and a better castle, while the other player has higher skills. The referee cannot determine anything in principle. In my opinion, all responsibility lies with the more skilled players.
Dark30
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3. Morning of January 27, 2015. Final playoff draw.
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I came home hoping to see the final draw and play against an opponent. But instead, I didn't see anything at all. The preliminary draw, for example, didn't give me anything. In some groups, the situations are so confusing that they can't be resolved even with the most beloved "berger" method. How much longer do we have to wait for the situation to be resolved in some way? Or will I have to wait another two weeks for the playoff matches to determine who advances from the group? I'm curious about how the next stages will proceed and how much time will be given for the matches – 3-4 weeks, or until the judges "wake up"?
Jewelmask
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People, come to your senses, and be grateful that someone is spending their personal time to make things interesting for us. Be more understanding.
PutinKING
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I came home hoping to see the final draw and play against an opponent. But instead, I didn't see anything at all. The preliminary draw didn't give me anything, for example. In some groups, the situations are so confusing that they can't be resolved even with the most beloved burger. How much longer do we have to wait for the situation to be resolved somehow? Or will I have to wait another 2 weeks for the playoff matches to determine who advances from the group? I'm curious about how the next stages will proceed and how much time will be given for the matches, 3-4 weeks or until the judges wake up?
This is outrageous; I don't understand such statements (from passengers). Everything here is done on the enthusiasm of individual people.
Demanding rights and requiring something like this is, to put it mildly, absurd.
We should say thank you, and not only for the fact that there is even an opportunity to participate in what is being done for us.:smile17:
Sanin
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People, come to your senses, and be grateful that someone is spending their personal time to make things interesting for us. Be more understanding.
Right now, the problem is that he isn't spending time on the tournament.
Let's call a spade a spade. Pit is running this tournament terribly.
The rules haven't been published. Now, additional metrics will be taken into account, but there's simply no document outlining them.
Pit disappeared for two or three weeks and failed to meet the deadlines he himself set, allowing two weeks for the tournament. The playoffs should have started two weeks ago. And when he reappeared, he couldn't answer when the tournament would end.
He recruited people for the organizing committee but didn't give them the authority to resolve issues. These people weren't absent, but the answer to every question was: Pit makes all the decisions.
And today, he failed to meet his own deadlines again.
Given this kind of attitude from the organizer towards the tournament, it seems strange to demand any discipline from the participants. And it seems that they aren't even demanding it anymore, which is also not good.
I don't really understand why he doesn't step down from his organizational role if he doesn't have enough time. Why doesn't he give his assistants more authority? But since he doesn't, shouldn't he be held accountable?
Jewelmask
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Right now, the problem is that he isn't dedicating time to the tournament.
Let's call a spade a spade. Pit is running this tournament terribly.
The rules haven't been published. Now, additional metrics will be taken into account, but there simply aren't any rules outlining them.
Pit disappeared for two or three weeks and failed to meet the deadlines he himself set, allowing two weeks for the tournament. The playoffs should have started two weeks ago. And when he reappeared, he couldn't answer when the tournament would end.
He assembled an organizing committee but didn't give them the authority to resolve issues. These people weren't absent, but the answer to every question was: Pit makes all the decisions.
And today, he failed to meet his own deadlines again.
Given this kind of attitude from the organizer towards the tournament, it seems strange to demand any discipline from the participants. It seems that they aren't even demanding it anymore, and that's not good either.
I don't really understand why he doesn't relinquish his organizational responsibilities if he doesn't have enough time. Why doesn't he give his assistants more authority? But since he doesn't, shouldn't he be held accountable?
KobRa_RR
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Zanin, before criticizing such a respected person as PIT, please answer what YOU have done for the forum: have you organized even one tournament, or acted as an assistant, or helped resolve controversial situations? Perhaps you offered your help to him personally in a private message?
Sanin
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Whether he spends or doesn't spend is a matter of perspective; someone was updating the grid yesterday too. It's just that an angry chat demands action, and Pit treats everyone like a human being and lets them finish playing. There are plenty of tournaments and seasons; what's the point of writing angry comments when you could spend time playing? It would be better to write something positive, any kind of creative work or enthusiasm works better on a positive wave than on negativity.
Zanin, before you criticize such a respected person as PIT, please tell me what YOU have done for the forum: have you organized even one tournament, or acted as an assistant, or helped resolve controversial situations?
Maybe you offered your help to him personally in private?
Does no one have anything to say on the subject?
Dark30
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I haven't seen a single post that would diminish "Pete's" contributions to the forum and the players; a huge thank you to him for what he does. Now, we're talking about discipline; whether you're a player or an organizer, it's still necessary to fulfill your obligations, which you yourself have taken on. I would like to thank Pete, Dirty, Roger, and others who are working hard for us with "optimism."
bubuch
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Take a deep breath, why are you rushing to lose as quickly as possible?
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