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Mika is great. Even in the final, I didn't realize he was the one pulling the strings. But such an inconspicuous game also had a downside. The execution of Heroist, for example. Mika, are you aware that it was your double-bluff that led us to hang the mafia member? Anyway, no matter how cool you are, you overdid it with being inconspicuous. It reminded me of myself in the Mafia: Wild West Steampunk game. Ah, those were the days... Many played really well. Sesam worked great day and night, Master too... In the Detective game, I felt like there was a strong player, even though he wasn't very active. Alex and Snegovik played excellently as a pair. Nefela helped us all a lot. Nebok, as always, was great: not only in guessing the clues, but also in general, he managed to perform well on the day of Heroist's execution. The mafia members simply weren't given a chance to play. The randomness and overall pressure were high... But Koshi's example shows that we had worthy opponents. With a different balance, and with a different random outcome... The GM tried his best. Yes, the newspapers were too transparent, and there were a couple of balance errors... But Shaman put his heart into it, and I'm sure that this small first step will greatly improve our Mafia section. Thank you all for the game! ------- Haha, I forgot about Yashchura. Well, it's clear anyway, he's the main one here.
 

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Aries. Well, what can I say? I'm disappointed. You didn't "quit the game," you threw a tantrum and rage-quit. You let the team down. The only good thing I can say about the game is the "musical interludes," but I expected more.
1) When the GM breaks the rules they themselves created, turn after turn, and justifies it with "it just happened." Moreover, the bias is always in favor of the town (making a reciprocal concession to the mafia is NOT ALLOWED because it's UNFAIR!). So, you can safely record the number of surviving town members in the BOOK OF RECORDS, right next to the page where the phenomenal victory of the United Russia party in all elections of the second millennium is noted.
The only thing that really upset me was Aries's second emotional outburst.
Let them publish the mafia chat.
I really liked the town's game; the victory was absolutely deserved. Good daytime discussions, effective executions. I really liked the town's game; the victory was absolutely deserved. Good daytime discussions, effective executions.
I'm going to be sick: "Wise townspeople" hang a blocked player on the first night (it's just luck that the forest spirit blocked a mafia member, but they could have blocked a town member instead, and the hero's poll gives them 2 town roles - 4 mafia roles). But "they can't hang him" in case we kill a strong role! But on the third day, it's okay! Even though the ratio of mafia to town members has changed by a factor of two! And they spend a long time debating whether or not to hang Heaven.

During the discussion, the GM was told about banning identical polls, but...

The GM believes that the questions "are you mafia?" and "are you mafia named Ogonёk?" are "different." For all players, a "successful" night phase = a completed night phase if they managed to block, transfer, kill, heal, or learn... For our GM, it has different meanings.

Finally, the rules clearly stated the rule for casting votes for execution, but Shaman ignored them... Most of the mistakes could have been successfully corrected without changing the "newspaper acceleration" rule – it was possible to reflect the role, not the nickname; votes can always be recounted and changed (this was the case in games where dead players' roles are not revealed). BUT the GM considered himself right and, in response to criticism, began to threaten.

Therefore, let him answer:

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1) Shaman, are you that stupid from birth?
2) Shaman, have you become that stupid under the influence of the group?
3) Shaman, are you actually just catching losses, making fun of your "bunch of puppets"?
Answers: yes or no – only one lie is allowed.
First of all, a big thank you to the GM for their efforts. I know that some people tried their best to make you stop the game, and towards the end, they even resorted to insults, but in reality, for the first time, the game was conducted, in my opinion, magnificently. In general, well done, keep it up!
And regarding your

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attitude towards who can be insulted and who cannot, I would be happy to talk face to face when I get out of the hospital
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1) When the GM violates the rules they themselves created, turn after turn, and justifies it by saying "it just happened." Moreover, the bias is always in favor of the city. It is NOT permissible to give any concessions to the mafia because it is UNFAIR!
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I hope that all GMs will draw at least one conclusion from my game: once the game has started, only NDs (non-disclosure agreements) and some questions should be accepted from the players (not everything!!!). Any requests, pleas, advice, and recommendations should not be considered, and it is better to immediately punish them with a modkill. Otherwise, regardless of the percentage of requests and demands fulfilled, the players will be dissatisfied. And if you obediently fulfill EVERYTHING that is "recommended" to you, then it is no longer your game.
You need to decide, either the first or the second.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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What about blocks? =/
If a non-damaging attack is blockable, then it is blocked. But this is not considered a queue.
For example, I have a "paradox of blockers" working. If two blockers face each other (a head-on non-damaging attack) under otherwise equal conditions, both receive a failure and are notified of the situation. If two recruiters meet on the same target, both receive a failure. Again, under otherwise equal conditions. Sometimes one role may have priority.
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1) When the Game Master violates the rules they themselves created, turn after turn, and justifies it with "it just happened." Moreover, the bias is always in favor of the town (making concessions to the Mafia is NOT allowed because it's UNFAIR!). So, you can safely record the number of surviving town members in the Guinness Book of World Records, on the same page where the phenomenal victory of the United Russia party in all elections of the second millennium is noted.
Please provide specific examples, and in a more polite and readable manner.
Let them publish the Mafia chat.
I ask you to.
"Are you Mafia?"
This is a question about the player's allegiance.
"Are you Mafia, and your name is Ogonёk?"
This is a question about the description of a specific role. What are the complaints?
Finally, the rules clearly stated the rule for voting for the execution, but Shaman ignored it.
This is just nitpicking at anything, just to avoid killing a fellow Mafia member. Learn to lose.
I'm going to be sick: "Wise Townspeople" hang a blocked player on the first night (it's just luck that Leshy blocked a Mafia member, but he could have blocked a town member instead, and the Hero's poll gives him 2 town roles - 4 Mafia roles. But "he can't be hanged" in case we kill a strong role! But on the third day - it's okay! Although the ratio of Mafia to town members has changed by a factor of two! And they keep debating whether or not to hang Nebo.
The kill is not shown either if the target is in the Safe House, or if they are blocked. Which is more likely? A block.
For all players, a "successful" Night Action (NA) = a completed NA if they managed to block, redirect, kill, heal, or learn...
So, it seems that all of the listed actions result in a successful NA.
For our Game Master, the concept is different.
And that's good. Imagine if all games were based on the same template. In general, there was plenty of time to discuss everything, but you decided to start doing it in the middle of the game, when everyone had already made up their minds and expressed their dissatisfaction, and Shaman corrected them. It seems to me that such harsh criticism, full of grammatical errors and aggression, would offend anyone. What was the insult, by the way? Can you remind me? Or better yet, share it. Or was it obscene? :)
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A separate post for Vall d'Emeroll, as promised.

Alina, to convince you otherwise, I will reveal my table below (which I have never done before because it contains a lot of things that are like drugs , and I don’t like sharing my gaming secrets).
I hope you appreciate it and at least take the time to read what I wrote.
Explanations about the table:
1. Black cells – “impossibility of an event = 100%”, gray cells – impossibility of an event = 30%, 50%, etc., depending on the intensity. White cells – the event is possible without reservations. Colored cells – “the probability of the event is higher than in white cells”.
2. The nickname Vall d'Emeroll and possible role options for you are highlighted in red. The Firefly role and possible player options for him are also highlighted in red.



According to my table, the possibility of Kosha being Mafia is lower than that of Vall d'Emeroll (due to Firefly blocking Kosha) – Kosha has a gray cell, while Val has a white one. That is why I suspected Kosha less as Mafia.
And it can also be seen that Vall d'Emeroll has a higher chance of being Leshy compared to other town roles. Therefore, there is nothing strange about me suspecting one player of being both Mafia and Leshy at the same time.
That’s how it is. As you can see, there was nothing personal in my suspicions. And I am not an evil woman at all. By the way, I am not even from here; I am just visiting, like you.
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..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Damn, I spent the whole night thinking about how to convince everyone that Miki is crazy, and now it's all done.
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Damn it, I spent all night thinking about how to convince everyone that Miki is a maniac, and now it's all done.:eek::eek::eek:
Unfortunately, I ran out of strength, patience, and inspiration to write newspapers, and seeing that the maniac was being cornered, I announced the finale...
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Regarding your comment, which was

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, I would be happy to discuss face-to-face when I get out of the hospital, about who can be insulted and who cannot.
Get well soon!

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9. Bereginya swaps the positions of Yashur and Snegovik.
12. Werewolf attacks Snegovik (redirected to Yashur).
Ah, and I gave her flowers...:(
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12/13/2014 - 01/13/2015. It's funny that I started recruiting for the game on the 13th and finished the game on the 13th :)
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Unfortunately, I ran out of energy, patience, and inspiration to write news, and seeing that the "maniac" was being cornered, I announced the final round...
Because of this, we won't be able to overtake the Sylvan faction now. :D
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Well, we can just spam the discussion forums after the games, and if we don't overtake them, at least we'll catch up.
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Ah, and I gave her flowers...:(
Actually, I was trying to save you from the infection =/
But it turned out like this. Mafam was really unlucky.)
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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The funny thing is, on the 3rd night, I initially wanted to protect the Snowman, aka the Witch (I realized this after the 1st day), but then I decided to go to the Master, thinking they would target me as a 100% non-mafia member. Too bad, I could have protected myself... :D And I would have been stuck, unable to become a Knight...
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