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Yeah, Hv is not what it used to be... All that's left is to read reports of tournaments that are all the same. Where is all the behind-the-scenes stuff, where are the arguments, the scandals, the intrigues, the investigations, damn it? Few people remember VLK777, ReadMe, Hacker anymore... And what wonderful cheating arguments there were! A tear comes to your eye when you remember the streams of insults and hatred. Moderation and the HD anti-cheat have turned the cozy Hv into a dump, they have killed its soul.

Yeah, Hv isn't what it used to be... All that's left is to read reports of tournaments that are all the same. Where's all the dirt, where are the arguments, the scandals, the intrigues, the investigations, damn it? Few people remember VLK777, ReadMe, Hacker anymore... And what wonderful cheating arguments there were! A tear comes to your eye when you remember the streams of insults and hatred. Moderation and the HD anti-cheat have turned the cozy Hv into a dump, they've killed its soul.
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Sticky, you of all people should know that the policy is simple (less mess, less to clean up)...

the damned Americans achieved their goal by turning everyone against each other.

those damned Americans achieved their goal by turning everyone against each other

I'm going to have a drink in memory of my grandfathers.

What about your ignoring? At least four people unfriended me on VKontakte because of Ukraine, and one of them (whom I respect) is quite well-known here.

When your "truth" has nothing to do with reality, you get ignored. You were put on ignore for moral reasons, although they often go hand in hand (the second person on the ignore list is a Russian fascist, although he's a very friendly guy). It's surprising that since the political discussions started, I've seen many people who I didn't encounter in tournaments.

I'm going to drink for the old guys.

It's better to go to Sochi and go ice skating for the old guys. It's better for people to stand in line for ice skates, even if it's paid, rather than for alcohol, so they can hang out with friends.

When your "truth" has nothing to do with reality, you get put on ignore.
You, Vatya, were put on ignore for moral reasons, although these often go hand in hand (the second person on ignore was a Russian fascist, although a very friendly guy).
It's surprising that since politics came into play, I've seen many people who I never encountered in tournaments.

Reality is different for everyone. In general, a person knows very little for certain, and they fill in the gaps by guessing, extrapolating, making things up, relying on someone else's opinion, and so on.
In short, it's a whole complex of pseudo-substitutions of concepts.
A simple example that was shown to me in kindergarten: a "empty" glass is taken, and the question is asked - what's in it? The children unanimously state that it's empty. No! says the teacher - it's full!! So what's in it?... After some unsuccessful attempts with dirt, etc., the teacher reveals the secret that the glass is full of air!!!
This is how a discrepancy arises in terms and concepts: some say it's empty, others say it's full. And both can argue to the death about their own rightness, because each of them speaks sincerely - the truth!!! But the truth does not necessarily mean the absolute truth! A person may be mistaken or not have complete information on the matter.
Let's go further - the children learned that there is such a thing as air - and this moment slightly changed their perception of the world. Their world CHANGED!!! imperceptibly, just a little.
What happens when our worldview changes significantly?
When we realize that we were wrong, and when we become aware that we made serious mistakes here and there, when we understand that we did something bad to someone. We experience stress!! - the body is designed in such a way that for every external impact, it has a set of measures prepared, on how to react.
Stress is an adaptive reaction of our body to produce such reactions to external stimuli.
It is not necessarily something bad, as is commonly believed; it can also be something good. That is, there is something new, to which our body does not know how to react - and it is necessary to develop a reaction to it - this process of developing this reaction is stress.
And what happens when the stress is so strong that our body cannot cope with this reaction? - a person goes crazy or "loses it," etc., and there may even be a fatal outcome.

So, let's return to the "reality" that is different for everyone.
When you are told things that break "your reality," you have two options: either modify your world or protect yourself from new information in order not to experience severe stress. It is quite logical that if the "collapse" of one's worldview leads to serious consequences, the body may stubbornly ignore certain things and phenomena for self-preservation.
So, ignoring someone on Skype is one such manifestation. :) It is quite possible.

I won't talk about politics, or the Evil Romantic will come and delete everything

that break "your reality"

Two different sources are taken: Russian and Ukrainian, and they are studied. This way, you can see where and what is wrong. And if you share information with someone, it should be in the form of facts, not assertions.

Two different sources are used: Russian and Ukrainian, and they are studied. This allows you to see where and what is wrong. And if you share information with someone, it should be in the form of facts, not assertions.

Ah, if only this policy and this malevolent romantic didn't exist.

Look, if we follow your suggestion, we will come to points of disagreement. In other words, we will bring order to the chaos of assertions.
BUT!!! Damn it, if that's the case, there won't be any wars, because everything is clear, understandable, and organized. Everyone is happy.
No!!! This scenario does not suit those who stirred up this mess.
Otherwise, they would have long ago established the facts: Is there a Russian army in Ukraine, who shot down the Boeing, who was behind the snipers on Maidan, was there an armed coup or a revolution in Kyiv, etc., etc.
No, everything is going in the opposite direction, towards chaos and misunderstanding. Because only in such conditions can you "stir up the mess."
And this "mess" is already being "cooked up." Therefore, you will not be able to find answers to the simplest questions.

Here is a seemingly simple question: is there a Russian army in Ukraine? - Isn't it easy to provide facts confirming or refuting this statement? It doesn't seem to be like finding a needle in a haystack, yet so far there are only unsubstantiated claims. -> This is the path to chaos!!!

The path of facts is the path to order.

otherwise, the facts would have been established long ago

lies don't last long. And the more people want to know the truth, the less room there is for lies.

A lie doesn't live long. And the more people want to know the truth, the less room there is for lies.

Yeah, right... Who killed Kennedy? :) - According to the official version, it was some weirdo who was quickly executed. In reality, this is a very dubious claim. What prevents Ukraine from relying on facts? It's simply that they themselves have something to hide... and everyone else is taking advantage of that, and rightly so. IMHO, I'm not imposing my opinion on anyone. 1. You can't admit that you shot a hundred people on Maidan. 2. Regarding the Boeing: all the noise and confusion surrounding this situation, and the conflicting versions, only give more reason to believe that this was a planned operation, and therefore no one will ever know the cause-and-effect relationship. If it had been a case of mistaken actions, everything would have been transparent, and the facts would have been quickly found. 3. Regarding the troops: someone destroyed the Ukrainian army that was carrying out the ATO (Anti-Terrorist Operation)... otherwise, they wouldn't have sat down at the negotiating table. But no one needs the facts, so there are no facts. (Probably aliens). 4. Regarding terrorism: did you have terrorist attacks? Or do you know what terrorists look like? But because of this, two megacities and two adjacent areas were destroyed. I recommend reading the definition of the word "terror" (it is your army that is engaged in terror). 5. Regarding the change of power, etc.: this is an old story, but it's also obvious. At least, I wrote a post back then, in which I pointed out that if there was a change of power, there would be a civil war, and the number of victims would range from 10,000 to a million. (A sad romantic). And here's another thing... why do you need Georgian ministers? Your politicians "made up" the "Holodomor." So, logically, the claims should be made against Georgia, not Russia, because Stalin was Georgian. It's unclear why Russia and Russians should be held responsible for something they have nothing to do with. And it seems like you want a repeat of your "Holodomor," so you appointed ministers from Georgia, who have criminal cases opened against them in Georgia... it's all very strange. Saakashvili has already carried out the "Clean Field" operation (08.08.2008, during the opening of the Summer Olympics - he tried to destroy a city of civilians at night with Grad missile launchers). It seems that Poroshenko hopes that he will carry it out in the DPR and LPR?!!! But Russia is always to blame for everything. Why? Because that's the goal. The goal is Russia - everything else is fabricated against it.

In honor of the upcoming New Year holidays, the forum administration wishes everyone a good mood and less arguing, so the "Tribuna" section is temporarily closed. Best wishes to all.

TEST.

:D it works)

Will it last long? :D