HD от ubisoft — Tournament History

StickyFingaz

11 years ago

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Why are you so fixated on the graphics? In a week or two after release, they'll make a mod for you with the old graphics. Releasing the game is good in any case; it would be better to think about how to take advantage of this gift from Ubisoft. Look, they re-released Age of Empires 2 in HD on Steam a year ago – it's a buggy, laggy mess, and the competitive community quickly abandoned it and continued playing the original, but there were still benefits.

Sav

11 years ago

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Well, there is some danger that this remake will become the "default" version of the third game, and new players will flock to it instead of the original, even taking away the small influx of players that the original currently has. Even if these are just casual players, the competitive Community ultimately draws from them. So, the criticism is quite relevant, in order to reduce the feeling that this remake is the "best" Heroes 3, and that the "old" version should be discarded (for example, there are already posts on VK in the spirit of "goodbye, HD mod," so these sentiments are not just illusions).
A good option would be for this remake to be not very playable, but to encourage people to try/remember the real third game.

And in general, it would be really good to somehow take advantage of this – but something needs to be done, not just write posts. :)

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Oh, and one more thing – due to the strong similarity in names between the HD mod and this remake (right now, the HD mod website is at the top of Google search results for "Heroes 3 HD"), Ubisoft could easily sabotage the HD mod, for example, by paying to reduce its priority in search engines.

StickyFingaz

11 years ago

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A good option would be for this remake to be not very popular.

Personally, both options are fine with me, although I suspect that everything will go according to the scenario described above. If the new HD version is a quality product that a lot of people will play, plus with a built-in Steam ladder to replace Hamachi and other TV-like platforms, then why not switch?

Player_

11 years ago

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I read a funny comment:
"In Heroes 3 on tablets, they will definitely fix the balance of spells. For starters, Portal City will cost $0.99 instead of 16 mana points."

=Lizard=

11 years ago

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The only really cool thing they could do is integrate a program for streaming directly into Heroes, with a quality indistinguishable from the game itself – like in Dota, for example.

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sartrik

11 years ago

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=Lizard=

The only really cool thing they could do is integrate a program for streaming directly into Heroes, with quality indistinguishable from the game itself – like in Dota, for example.

All that's needed is to rewrite the engine from scratch and create the technology :)

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Wicc

11 years ago

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sartrik

All that's needed is to rewrite the engine from scratch and create a new technology :)

Well, "rewrite" is an exaggeration... I would estimate the amount of work required for this to be much less than for HD Mod.

Defiant

11 years ago

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All of this is, of course, fun and great, a fresh take and all that. But the features and advantages of the HD mod, which make the game more convenient, outweigh this soapy graphics by a hundredfold. Although, of course, the ladder and playing through the Steam platform are very cool. It doesn't matter for tablets.

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Marmot

11 years ago

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I took a break from the game for a couple of months, and then... this happened:smile24:
"This is a scam to rake in loads of money!":smile18: :smile48: :smile29: :smile38: :smile21:

why only RoE? To understand the origin of the project and its development we need to go back to 2003. At that time we asked New World Computing to retrieve their archives for all the Might & Magic titles. We found tons of documentation and data but regarding Heroes III we had nothing but the usable source code of Heroes III Restoration of Erathia.

I don't believe this for a second: it's definitely a scam! Who is trying to tell me that they don't have the source code for AB, SoD, and Complete, but "suddenly" found the source code for RoE?! It's easy to guess what's really going on: either they have all the source code, but they decided to follow the established scheme of "making as much money as possible": people will first buy the RoE remake, then the AB remake, then the SoD remake, and finally the Chronicles remake. And if they release Complete all at once, they obviously won't be able to make as much money, and the team will have work for another 2-3 years. The second, less likely option: they don't have any source code at all, and everything is being made from scratch, except for the objects that were taken from the original game resources: graphics, music, and sounds.
We will be able to understand which of the two hypotheses is correct shortly after the remake is released: there should be old bugs left from the RoE source code, which will definitely make themselves known (it is unlikely that they will be fixed before the release of the remake, or they will be fixed, but not all).
Of course, we will wait until it actually comes out and "check out" what it's like, but for now, I will remain loyal to the old, good "Heroes" with the "orthodox" HD mod by Baratortcha. :)

Player_

I read a funny comment
"In Heroes 3 on tablets, they will definitely fix the balance of spells. For starters, Portal City will cost $0.99 instead of 16 mana points."

Well, yes, something like that:

Player_

11 years ago

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And I saw comments about that. - Having 46 Archangels on the attacking side won't help. - These are VIP Archangels.

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=Lizard=

11 years ago

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sartrik

All that's needed is to rewrite the engine from scratch and create a new technology :)

Sorry, what does the engine have to do with it? I'm just talking about broadcasts, and it doesn't affect the gameplay at all. Vic is probably right - it's easier than messing around with HD models.

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sartrik

11 years ago

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=Lizard=

Sorry, what does the engine have to do with it? I'm just talking about broadcasts, and it doesn't affect the gameplay at all. Vic is probably right – it's simpler than messing around with HD models.

And how, if you don't mind me asking, do you suggest broadcasting without affecting the gameplay? At least on paper. Implement a technology like TV or Mikogo into the game client? Or what?

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Егор Коробейников

11 years ago

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Player_

I saw comments about this too.
-Even with 46 archers, the attackers won't be able to do anything.
-These are VIP archers.

There are 45 of them. If there are upgraded archers with 500 HP, they will easily defeat the regular ones.

zoog

11 years ago

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gPaskal

Why did it become so awful? And why are all the buildings so plasticky now?

Because people buy consoles. And in general, everything is bright and primitive. And demand creates supply.

=Lizard=

It would have been better if Ubisoft had given Baratorch 5 million greenbacks. The result would have been faster and 100 times better than from their entire team of "developers," who have a dubious connection to the Heroes series.

Yeah, of course. There's a saying: "It's better to have crap, but it's your own." But with large publishers, it's the opposite – it's better to have crap, and it's still their own. And the advantage of 20 Tajik workers over 2 European hired workers is also well known – they are more expensive, slower, but replaceable, and you can blame your mistakes on them.

Marmot