One for all and all for one - 3 — Tournament History online

marajan

11 years ago

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Iamsamstan

balancing in the 3rd tier is an impossible task, as it's impossible to find 20 equally skilled players; this would require sending out invitations for a tournament. The only thing I think is that Juanito from the 2nd tier should be replaced with someone like Evil, y2nub, Maharaja, or Bloody Driver.

How are things going in Stanov?

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злой_романтик

11 years ago

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I just had an idea: maybe we could do without the brackets altogether? There are 40 people – just choose from them, starting with the “lower” captains and going up to the “higher” ones, but that would be a completely different tournament).

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Iamsamstan

11 years ago

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marajan

How are things in Stronghold?

Everything's fine, it's a day off)

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злой_романтик

I just had an idea, maybe we could do without the brackets altogether? There are 40 people – choose from them, starting with the "lower" captains up to the "higher" ones, but that would be a completely different tournament.

By the way, theoretically, this could reduce the percentage of arguments, but it's not a certainty.

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Dirty_Player

11 years ago

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zloy_romantik

I just had an idea: maybe we could do without the tiers altogether? There are 40 players – just pick from them, starting with the “lower” captains and going up to the “higher” ones, but that would be a completely different tournament.

This is actually a very good idea. Dividing players into tiers makes sense when the draw is random. If someone believes that a player from tier 3 is stronger than the remaining players in tier 2, then it is quite logical that they can choose him.

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skd

11 years ago

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Dirty_Player

This is actually a very good idea. Dividing into tiers makes sense when the draft will be random. If someone thinks that a player from tier 3 is stronger than the remaining players from tier 2, then it is quite logical that he can take him.

In this case, let's say the captain takes Ominous1 and zloy_romantik, and says, "I think zloy_romantik is stronger, so he will be the second player on my team, and Ominous1 will be the third," which will give his team a very high chance of winning in the third game.

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Roger DAltavilla

11 years ago

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This tournament will be held according to the previously adopted regulations. I suggest discussing tournament systems and proposals for their improvement here: New ideas, templates, tournaments!

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Noom

11 years ago

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skd

In that case, let's assume the captain picked Ominous1 and zloy_romantik, and says, "I think zloy_romantik is stronger, so he'll be my second player, and Ominous1 will be third, which will give his team a very high chance of winning in the third game.

The players on your team will receive boards in the order of the draft. That is, you can't put a player who was picked first on the 3rd board (he will automatically go to the 2nd). In the top 5, when there was a draft from baskets in the last tournament, I was put in the fifth position because I was inactive for a long time - it was very unbalanced.

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Roger DAltavilla

11 years ago

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Let’s wrap up the discussion; please don’t clutter the thread.

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The_

11 years ago

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Noom

In Heroes of Might and Magic V, during the last tournament, when there was a draft system with tiers, I was placed in the fifth tier because I hadn't been active for a long time – it created a significant imbalance.

But you should have been in the sixth tier, right? :p

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Dirty_Player

11 years ago

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Roger DAltavilla

This tournament will be held according to the previously adopted regulations.

Not a drop in the mouth, not a centimeter to the... left. It's a pity that the organizer's stubbornness and unwavering belief in his own righteousness prevent him from listening to minor adjustments. Of course, it's up to him to decide, but the opinions of the players should also be heard sometimes.

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Roger DAltavilla

11 years ago

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Dirty_Player

Not a drop in the mouth, not a centimeter to the... left. It's a pity that the organizer's stubbornness and his endless confidence in his own righteousness prevent him from listening to small adjustments. It's up to him to decide, but the opinions of the players should also be heard sometimes.

I believe that the regulations need to be revised. But this should be done before or after the tournament. Now, some captains have already voted, and it is impossible to change anything.
In the end, no one forbids holding another team tournament with different rules.

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Simon5760

11 years ago

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Dirty_Player

Not a drop in the mouth, not a centimeter to the... left. It's a pity that the organizer's stubbornness and his endless confidence in his own righteousness prevent him from listening to small adjustments. It's up to him to decide, but the opinions of the players should also be heard sometimes.

Only the dissatisfied express their opinions, and those who are silent are presumably in agreement with the rules. Do you think it's reasonable to revise the rules because of 10 people?

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Dirty_Player

11 years ago

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Simon5760

Only those who are dissatisfied express their opinions, while everyone who remains silent seems to agree with the regulations, and you think it is reasonable to revise the regulations because of 10 people?

I don't consider myself dissatisfied. I am ready to play with any regulations; I confirmed this by signing up for the tournament. I just don't understand why a tiny change that would benefit the regulations shouldn't be made?

Roger DAltavilla

But this needs to be done before or after the tournament. Some captains have already voted, and it is impossible to change anything now.

Captains? Is that just Bishop, who will make the same choice anyway? :D
There were attempts to do this BEFORE, but they were rejected. Okay, you're the boss. I don't want to argue anymore.

Roger DAltavilla

In the end, no one forbids holding another team tournament with different rules.

You have to be a complete degenerate to open a new, similar tournament in parallel with the current one.

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Roger-ua

11 years ago

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I support Evil, Dirty. It’s a very simple and good idea – no need for brackets! Captains can use all the ratings and tournament results to determine the brackets themselves. It doesn’t require any additional effort. It’s up to the organizers to decide.