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Posts from TOURNEY "Sea Battle" - rules and discussion
Did you enter the technical results? Because there's a difference of just a few tenths of a point between the teams. For example, it's not immediately clear to me which team, Exa, won.
Did you enter the technical results? Because there's a difference of only a few tenths between the teams. For example, it's not clear to me which team, Exa, won.
We judges need to think about this. Many points were not specified in the rules: technical results, voluntary withdrawal from the tournament, etc.
The decision will be difficult...
Why am I getting a penalty? Elfelita wasn't online the whole time!
You didn't play the game – you get a penalty. :) P.S. Elfelita really wasn't online much. But if we don't apply the penalty for not playing with him, and instead apply it to the other players who skipped, it would be unfair.
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BOLIVAR
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I also started playing with ElfElite a long time ago. The last time we played was in November of last year. And then – nothing. And I'm practically always online. So, should I also be penalized? ))) A game was also started with Counter, and the last time we played was in February. Moreover, in both cases, in my humble opinion, I should have won. So, if there are inactive players, should absolutely everyone suffer? If one player doesn't appear online, doesn't play games, and doesn't write in the tournament thread about their problems (due to which they can't play), while another player is almost always online, should both players be penalized equally?
Noom
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In my opinion, this is a result of the lack of formal deadlines for specific games. Consequently, the judges/organizers have no way to monitor (or even the possibility to do so) whether the players adhered to the deadlines for the rounds.
Элементаль Бога
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No, guys, I think that "Battleship" was almost the pinnacle of judging practice. Look how much space is taken up by just the rules, advice, and prohibitions for players. And having 25 people constantly pointing out unfinished games for half a year – that's quite a task, and it's unpaid, and some people play or don't play, while the judges have to supervise them like they're children. There are practically no complaints about the judges.
KillAndAction
The tournament dates are 10/27/2013 - 05/14/2014, with 7 days allocated for each game + 3 days for replaying. Extending the tournament deadline by 10 days is allowed, only for those who have insurmountable problems (no internet access for more than 3 days, family circumstances, etc.) and have warned in advance about upcoming or existing problems.
KillAndAction
Please report any communication problems with opponents, inability to play your game on time, requests to reschedule games, etc. immediately in this thread...
KillAndAction
The penalty for each unplayed game is 0.5.
My advice to everyone is to check your actions in the tournament in relation to the three quotes from the rules above before describing your complaints about the awarding of points.
By the way, what about canceling the penalty points for not playing against players who voluntarily withdrew from the tournament (like dmitrik, Rakot...)?
Any suggestions and comments are welcome.
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Noom
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It's precisely about reminding players – otherwise, as practice shows, the percentage of unfinished matches sharply increases, and it also becomes difficult to record the technical results. I think this is obvious.
_The impossibility of playing one's game on time_ – if you can tell me when this "on time" occurs for ANY of my games within the tournament, I would be grateful.
I wrote about this at the beginning of the tournament – as a result, the judges outlined the deadlines for each round, but for some reason, they didn't outline specific pairings for each round. As a result, we have what we have – problems in summarizing the tournament results, when it's unclear which team took first place. I wouldn't want this post to be perceived as some kind of negativity – it's just that there's an opinion that in the future, it would be good to monitor the situation with games per round, or at least every two rounds, to more or less maintain the pace of the tournament for all players.
It’s precisely about reminding them – otherwise, as practice shows, the percentage of unfinished matches sharply increases, and it also becomes difficult to record the technical results.
Give judges avatars for each tournament they officiate. Seriously. No judges – no tournament. There must be a minimum incentive for judging, and a record of the tournament chronology would also be useful – when and which tournament was held. You can safely give the "Sea" order for conducting a tournament.Noom
_the impossibility of playing their game on time_ – if you tell me when this "on time" occurs for ANY of my games within the tournament, I will be grateful to you.
In my opinion, everything is simple: 1) you know how many games you need to finish 2) you know how often the right opponents appear on ICQ 3) by leaving 1 week for 1 game, you estimate when the critical time begins and write a complaint about one or another player, saying that they haven't appeared at all lately, or they are ignoring you, or they are refusing to play, etc.
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Well... you're exaggerating about the complaints. And I'll explain why.
The very format of the tournament IMPLIED that you play with any player at any time. That is, during the tournament, complaints were meaningless.
Now the tournament is over. And it's logical for the judges to ask the players about the state of their games. Accordingly, measures should be taken against those who do not report (i.e., in essence, to punish the players who abandoned the tournament without saying a word in the tournament thread). But for some reason, this doesn't happen.
In general, I don't care whether I get -0.5 or not. I have no desire to fight for some mythical half-point. I just find this system of awarding points at the end of the tournament amusing. And I'm not belittling the great work of the judges – it's still a lot of work.
But the fact remains: THIS tournament has greatly encouraged players who abandon games.
P.S. Elemental of God, have you even written a single complaint yourself? If you are so eager to defend them. Even though your complaints during the tournament were like calling into the void.
Give judges avatars for each tournament they officiate. Seriously. No judges, no tournament. There should be a minimum incentive for judging, and a record of tournaments could also serve as one – when, which tournament was held. For running a "Sea" tournament, an order could be awarded without hesitation.
I can't understand one thing – in the adjacent section about the third game, they somehow play with strict deadlines, judges monitor their compliance, and the question of awarding orders doesn't arise. In the fifth game, it somehow seems like something extraordinary, something worthy of a Nobel Prize.
Будьте осторожны со своими желаниями. Иногда они исполняются.
ЛИДЕР Клана"ХРАНИТЕЛИ НЕБЕСНЫХ ВРАТ" Рейтинг: Латник
