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Dirty_Player
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Actually, this situation has already been discussed. There's nothing wrong with two players agreeing to a draw without playing; it's their right. If a draw suits the players based on their tournament standings, why should they play, wasting their energy and time, and risking their tournament position? To avoid problems with qualifying from the group due to someone playing to a draw, they should aim to win themselves. IMHO.
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If a draw wasn't beneficial to the opponents, I think they wouldn't agree to it. But if everyone is happy, what's the problem?
Who told you that everyone is happy? There are other opponents in the group who might not qualify as a result of the collusion. (maybe not in this case, but in general...either you can collude, or you can't at all).
Noom
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The guys just remembered Dynamo Kyiv and their famous series of draws in the USSR championship.
VanjaM
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If both players agree to a draw and such a result occurs, then there is nothing wrong with that. In chess, this is common, especially when a leader needs to play the final round.
Redwhait
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Does a group member who did not participate in the match-fixing agree to such outcomes?
VanjaM
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Does the group member agree with such outcomes if they didn't participate in the collusion?
Redwhait
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Regarding him, this is a principle of unfair competition, as it is not certain that LeBron and Darkello scored points against Gomungulus, and such outcomes complicate his chances of advancing from the group.
Player_
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In relation to him, this is a principle of unfair competition, because it is not a fact that LeBron and Darkello scored points with Gomungulus, and such outcomes complicate his chances of advancing from the group.
Gomunguls
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In relation to him, this is not a fair fight, as it is not certain that LeBron and Darkello scored points against Gomungulus, and such outcomes complicate his chances of advancing from the group.
This discussion can be concluded with this sentence written by Kostya:To avoid problems with advancing from the group due to someone playing to a draw, you need to win yourself. IMHO(c)
Thank you all for the good mood, and see you in the next stage of the tournament!))))
P.S. not with everyone, of course)) some will finish at this stage.
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They could have said they played to a draw, even though there was no game. So, what then?
When players cheat, watch their opponents' streams, or turn off their computers when they're losing... no one will ever know. So, what's stopping us? they argue.
Player_
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When players cheat, watch their opponent's streams, or turn off their computer when losing... no one will ever know. So, what's stopping us? they argue.
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Since when are cheats and agreeing to a draw the same thing?
They are the same because it's cheating. You either play (act) honestly or dishonestly. If you didn't play but said you did, that's dishonest.
JustObserver
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Actually, this situation has already been discussed. There's nothing wrong with two players agreeing to a draw without playing; it's their right. If a draw suits the players based on their tournament standings, why should they play, wasting energy, time, and risking their tournament position? To avoid problems with qualifying from the group due to someone playing to a draw, you need to win yourself. IMHO.
Player_
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It's the same thing because it's a deception. Either you play (act) honestly or dishonestly. If you didn't play but said you did, that's dishonest.
KobRa_RR
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Actually, this situation has already been discussed. There's nothing wrong with two players agreeing to a draw without playing; it's their right. If a draw suits the players based on their tournament standings, why should they play, wasting their energy and time, and risking their tournament position? To avoid problems with qualifying from the group due to someone playing to a draw, they should win on their own. IMHO.
Just to clarify for myself: is this your opinion, Kostya, or the official position of the Tournament Committee?
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